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How will Texas continue to pay for its highways?
The Housont Chronicle ^ | May 23, 2017 | Kyle Shelton, via The Urban Edge

Posted on 06/17/2017 12:54:06 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: elpadre
Aren’t federal and state gasoline taxes supposed to pay for building and upkeep of highways?

What? You think bike paths and transitways are free? Transportation infrastructure like that is expensive. https://www.transit.dot.gov/about/news/federal-transit-administration-celebrates-stamford-urban-transitway-extension-improving

21 posted on 06/17/2017 2:37:15 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: yarddog

Paved roads are overrated. I remember driving on a four lane, numbered, US highway in west Texas close to 30 years ago. It was gravel, and it got me from where I was to where I wanted to be.


22 posted on 06/17/2017 2:39:36 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Signalman

But...but,wasn’t all the funds in a “LOCK BOX”?/s


23 posted on 06/17/2017 2:39:48 PM PDT by Mark (Celebrities... is there anything they do not know? -Homer Simpson)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; All
State government leaders of Texas, California, New York and Illinois need to work with the rest of the states to support Pres. Trump in leading the states to put a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes, taxes that corrupt Congress cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers, such taxes arguably stolen state revenues.

Unconstitutional federal taxes are evidenced by the following excerpts from the writings of Thomas Jefferson and previous generations of state sovereignty-respecting Supreme Court justices, justices having clarified constitutional limits on the fed’s powers, including limited power to appropriate taxes.

Once unconstitutional federal taxes are stopped, then the individual states will probably find a tsunami of new revenues that they won't know what to do with (higher state taxes), Texas and the rest of the states being able to start their own healthcare programs, improve INTRAstate schooling, increase funding for police and fire departments, and repair infrastructure for starters.

Note that the consequences of revenue mismanagement in one state will hopefully be limited to taxpayers of that state.

On the other hand, probably most taxpayers have been oppressed by the consequences of gross mismanagement of “federal” revenues, again, such revenues arguably stolen state revenues.

Drain the swamp! Drain the swamp!

Remember in November ’18 !

Since Trump entered the ’16 presidential race too late for patriots to make sure that there were state sovereignty-respecting candidates on the primary ballots, patriots need make sure that such candidates are on the ’18 primary ballots so that they can be elected to support Trump in draining the unconstitutionally big federal government swamp.

Such a Congress will also be able to finish draining the swamp with respect to getting the remaining state sovereignty-ignoring, activist Supreme Court justices off of the bench.

In fact, if Justice Gorsuch turns out to be a liberal Trojan Horse then we will need 67 patriot senators to remove a House-impeached Gorsuch from office.

Noting that the primaries start in Iowa and New Hampshire in February ‘18, patriots need to challenge candidates for federal office in the following way.

While I Googled the primary information above concerning Iowa and New Hampshire, FReeper iowamark brought to my attention that the February primaries for these states apply only to presidential election years. And after doing some more scratching, since primary dates for most states for 2018 elections probably haven’t been uploaded at this time (March 14, 2017), FReepers will need to find out primary dates from sources and / or websites in their own states.

Patriots need to qualify candidates by asking them why the Founding States made the Constitution’s Section 8 of Article I; to limit (cripple) the federal government’s powers.

Patriots also need to find candidates that are knowledgeable of the Supreme Court's clarifications of the federal government’s limited powers listed above.

24 posted on 06/17/2017 3:01:35 PM PDT by Amendment10
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The left loves toll roads. Everytime you gather speed in Illinois, there’s another one on the freeway. And look at how solvent that commie nuthouse is.


25 posted on 06/17/2017 3:08:00 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Add a tariff to sales of all energy products to blue states.


26 posted on 06/17/2017 3:33:17 PM PDT by Joe Bfstplk (A Irredeemable Deplorable Texan)
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To: a fool in paradise
No toll roads and no selling our freeways to foreign nations for a quick cash fix.

Put all the toll gates they want on the Southern Border.

27 posted on 06/17/2017 3:49:56 PM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: PAR35
Paved roads are overrated. I remember driving on a four lane, numbered, US highway in west Texas close to 30 years ago. It was gravel, and it got me from where I was to where I wanted to be.

Gotta call BS on that one without further details.

28 posted on 06/17/2017 4:14:55 PM PDT by SanchoP (This post originated from deep inside occupied South Texas.)
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To: elpadre
Aren’t federal and state gasoline taxes supposed to pay for building and upkeep of highways?

Yep - and at the state level, some of the vehicle registration fees are supposed to fund that work.

29 posted on 06/17/2017 4:34:36 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: SanchoP

I think it was US 385 from Marathon to Fort Stockton; it might have been 285 from Sanderson to Fort Stockton. I don’t recall how far east I went before I turned left. Both now appear to be paved 2 lanes with paved shoulders. I do recall being surprised when the pavement ended and I found myself on the gravel. Nothing on the map to indicate that it wasn’t a regular highway. The state highways out there were fine.

There’s not a whole lot of civilization in the Fort Stockton - Marathon - Sanderson triangle, and there was even less back then after the oil and banking collapse.


30 posted on 06/17/2017 4:42:34 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’ve always wondered why they built Highway 130 “between Austin and San Antonio”.

It seemed like it was way out of the way on the way out in the middle of nowhere on the way to Houston just to get to Austin.

Where as the existing route on I35 va New Braunfels is much more direct and only takes like an hour. Im surprised a private company would engage in such a venture knowing it was so far out of the way of any real traffic. It looks like they didn’t do enough good research on the issue.


31 posted on 06/17/2017 6:17:30 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

How much would it cost without corruption?


32 posted on 06/17/2017 6:45:13 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Here's a novel idea...

Abbott to D.C.: Stop sending our gas taxes to other states
"The days of Texans funding projects in Alaska, California and New York must come to an end," Abbott said.

33 posted on 06/17/2017 6:46:27 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: PAR35
Could have been. Both of those were prone to washout and the ranchers took turns running for county commissioner so they could get the road to their house paved.

I haven't been down either since I was a swamper on a rathole rig way back in high school(early 60's) so my memory's a bit dim.

34 posted on 06/17/2017 7:06:13 PM PDT by SanchoP (This post originated from deep inside occupied South Texas.)
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To: SanchoP

It could have been paved in the past, and it certainly appears paved now, but it was gravel that day. And no signs indicating a temporary condition.


35 posted on 06/17/2017 7:37:00 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Monorprise

Perhaps they just drove down I-35 and realized folks would pay a high price and go well out of their way to avoid the free road. Rick Perry let I-35 get in terrible shape when he was pushing the Trans Texas Corridor for the Spaniards.


36 posted on 06/17/2017 7:40:56 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Sounds right. In the early 90’s the highway between Ft Davis and Balmorhea had washed out but no signs except one 2x2 “Caution” at the Ft Davis city limits. About ten miles down the road I round a curve and WTF!?! the bridge was washed out. No signs,no nothing.


37 posted on 06/17/2017 8:02:21 PM PDT by SanchoP (This post originated from deep inside occupied South Texas.)
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To: ColdOne; ExTexasRedhead

“Let me guess...the money from gas taxes went to pensions, illegals and slush funds?”

You betcha! Just like they do here in California, and yet you Texans have the temerity to think that everything in Texas is just hunky dory! You need to wipe the fog off of your rose-colored glasses and smell the coffee. You are well on the road to being just like we are already. Just like we were, you are just one Jerry Brown look alike as your governor away from joining us. Your Mexicans are just waiting until you elect Jose Jimenez to the Governor’s Mansion to take over.


38 posted on 06/17/2017 8:26:12 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: SanchoP

Checked on the map. I’m pretty sure that wasn’t the highway I was on. It has a state number, and I specifically remember the federal signage. I went into Fort Davis on 118 and stopped off at the observatory, Indian Lodge, then did the Fort. I then went on down to Alpine on 118. I went on east for a while before turning north.


39 posted on 06/18/2017 6:18:53 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Lemme guess what the solution is?
Toll roads with increases in cost every year.
The ability to track you every where you go.
Meanwhile the roads will not get repaired as the money will be diverted for pet projects just like happens in all other states.


40 posted on 06/18/2017 10:42:22 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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