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Guilty Verdict for Young Woman Who Urged Friend to Kill Himself
The New York Times ^ | 06/16/2017 | Jess Bidgoodjune

Posted on 06/17/2017 2:52:43 PM PDT by Trump20162020

TAUNTON, Mass. — For a case that had played out in thousands of text messages, what made Michelle Carter’s behavior a crime, a judge concluded, came in a single phone call. Just as her friend Conrad Roy III stepped out of the truck he had filled with lethal fumes, Ms. Carter told him over the phone to get back in the cab and then listened to him die without trying to help him.

That command, and Ms. Carter’s failure to help, said Judge Lawrence Moniz of Bristol County Juvenile Court, made her guilty of involuntary manslaughter in a case that had consumed New England, left two families destroyed and raised questions about the scope of legal responsibility. Ms. Carter, now 20, is to be sentenced Aug. 3 and faces up to 20 years in prison.

The judge’s decision, handed down on Friday, stunned many legal experts with its conclusion that words alone could cause a suicide.

“This is saying that what she did is killing him, that her words literally killed him, that the murder weapon here was her words,” said Matthew Segal, a lawyer with the American Civil Liberties Union of Massachusetts, which raised concerns about the case to the state’s highest court. “That is a drastic expansion of criminal law in Massachusetts.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: influence; michellecarter; ruling; suicide
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1 posted on 06/17/2017 2:52:43 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: Trump20162020

Is this woman the second daughter of The PIAPS?

Only a demonrat would do this


2 posted on 06/17/2017 3:01:32 PM PDT by Fai Mao (I still want to see The PIAPS in prison)
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To: Trump20162020

This is such a hideous case. She’s completely depraved and needs to be taken out of circulation - so of course the ACLU is defending her.


3 posted on 06/17/2017 3:04:59 PM PDT by livius
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To: Trump20162020

She knew it was wrong, yet she did it anyway. I don’t want to hear about her underdeveloped frontal lobes. Guilty.


4 posted on 06/17/2017 3:06:03 PM PDT by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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To: Trump20162020

Wasn’t there a case a few years ago of a pastor or minister who told a depressed person (a boy, IIRC) that suicide was sometimes a logical option for some people, and subsequently the boy did end his own life?

In California, I believe. I don’t think criminal charges were brought, but the parents sued, successfully, I think.


5 posted on 06/17/2017 3:07:54 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Liberals think in propaganda)
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To: Trump20162020

Ms. Carter told him over the phone to get back in the cab and then listened to him die without trying to help him...

GUILTY!!!

She didn’t say “why don’t you go kill yourself?” during an argument.

She LISTENED to him die. Isn’t it a crime to not report a homicide/suicide taking place if you know about it?

Not that you should do what anyone tells you to do anyway.

My ex used to tell me to go #### myself all the time.

I never did :)


6 posted on 06/17/2017 3:09:21 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know that if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: Trump20162020

Three words did her in——”Get back in”.

She’s hateful,

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7 posted on 06/17/2017 3:09:54 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Steely Tom

I had a Christian counselor tell me that the Bible doesn’t say suicide will get you sent to hell.

There are some sick people out there.


8 posted on 06/17/2017 3:10:05 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: Trump20162020

I have zero sympathy for her and wouldn’t piss on her if she was on fire... but to me this is an overreach of law.


9 posted on 06/17/2017 3:11:25 PM PDT by samtheman (Trump++)
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To: Trump20162020

Props to the judge. Hopefully, when this evil sociopath is sentenced later, she’ll be given some hard time.

It’s good to know that we still have some good judges on the bench.


10 posted on 06/17/2017 3:12:04 PM PDT by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison.)
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To: Trump20162020

Oh crap, I better not keep recommending that liberal friends who hate trump should move to Sweden, France or Germany lest they get culturally enriched and I get the blame for them being enriched....


11 posted on 06/17/2017 3:13:28 PM PDT by GraceG ("It's better to have all the Right Enemies, that it is to have all the Wrong Friends.")
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To: Trump20162020

Doubtful she’ll ever grow up to be a loving mother. or any other loving thing.


12 posted on 06/17/2017 3:13:46 PM PDT by umgud
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To: FreedomStar3028

Suicide, no. Murder, yes.


13 posted on 06/17/2017 3:17:19 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: bigbob

I second that. Today’s females have been brought up with a twisted sense of entitlement; they want to be worshipped as princesses and yet want to abuse males and treat them like dirt.


14 posted on 06/17/2017 3:18:31 PM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mother's actual parenting of children)
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It’s about time the courts put an end to the “female sentencing discount.”

search engine: golden uterus syndrome


15 posted on 06/17/2017 3:19:43 PM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mother's actual parenting of children)
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To: AbolishCSEU

I thought Jodi Arias put an end to that.


16 posted on 06/17/2017 3:22:16 PM PDT by the_individual2014
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To: samtheman
.. but to me this is an overreach of law

+1

17 posted on 06/17/2017 3:24:45 PM PDT by tomkat (dear lord, please save us from those who aim to save us)
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To: Trump20162020

I hope she gets a very long time to rot in jail, time to reflect on her evil action.


18 posted on 06/17/2017 3:25:33 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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I have zero sympathy for her and wouldn’t piss on her if she was on fire... but to me this is an overreach of law.

I agree. The young man died by his own hand, not hers. I understand wanting to punish her for being so cold and vile, but that should not come at the expense of reason. Harsh as it may sound, this is symptomatic of the "it's somebody else's fault" mentality much of our society has embraced in recent times. This precedent, if allowed to stand, will be abused going forward.
19 posted on 06/17/2017 3:28:06 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Trump20162020

I watched this trial on YouTube, from beginning to end (live stream trials are, for the most part, better than any TV). Michelle Carter remained stoic throughout the trial until the verdict, then she balled her eyes out. This was a good week for prosecution as Dalia Dippolito was FINALLY found guilty, too. Sheesh!!


20 posted on 06/17/2017 3:33:56 PM PDT by Watershed
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