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USS Fitzgerald collision wasn't reported for nearly an hour, Japan says
CBS News ^ | June 19, 2017

Posted on 06/19/2017 10:20:48 AM PDT by Kaslin

Last Updated Jun 19, 2017 11:37 AM EDT

TOKYO -- Japan's coast guard is investigating why it took nearly an hour for a deadly collision between a U.S. Navy destroyer and a container ship to be reported.

A coast guard official said Monday they are trying to find out what the crew of the Philippine-flagged ACX Crystal was doing before reporting the collision off Japan's coast to authorities 50 minutes later.

The ACX Crystal collided with the USS Fitzgerald off Japan's coast, killing seven of the destroyer's crew of nearly 300. The ships collided early Saturday morning, when the Navy said most of the 300 sailors on board would have been sleeping. Authorities have declined to speculate on a cause while the crash remains under investigation.

A track of the much-larger container ship's route by MarineTraffic, a vessel-tracking service, shows it made a sudden turn as if trying to avoid something at about 1:30 a.m., before continuing eastward. It then made a U-turn and returned around 2:30 a.m. to the area near the collision.

The impact crushed the starboard side of the Fitzgerald. The ship was listing as it sailed into its home port in Yokosuka, Japan, Saturday, CBS News correspondent Ben Tracy reports. The commander of the U.S. 7th Fleet said the sailors' actions kept the ship from sinking.

"This was not a small collision," Vice Adm. Joseph Aucoin said. "It was right near the pilot's house, and there is a big puncture."

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Japan
KEYWORDS: maritime; usnavy; ussfitzgerald
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1 posted on 06/19/2017 10:20:49 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Something stinks in japan


2 posted on 06/19/2017 10:22:37 AM PDT by al baby (May the Forceps be with you Hi Mom Its a Joke friends)
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To: Kaslin

“””Japan’s coast guard is investigating why it took nearly an hour for a deadly collision between a U.S. Navy destroyer and a container ship to be reported.

A coast guard official said Monday they are trying to find out what the crew of the Philippine-flagged ACX Crystal was doing before reporting the collision”””


And when, if ever, did the USS Fitzgerald report the collision to the Japanese Coast Guard?


3 posted on 06/19/2017 10:25:04 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Kaslin
The ships collided early Saturday morning, when the Navy said most of the 300 sailors on board would have been sleeping.

"most"?

Perhaps "all"?

4 posted on 06/19/2017 10:25:34 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Islam: You have to just love a "religion" based on rape and sex slavery.)
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To: Kaslin

Name: ACX Crystal
Owner:
Olympic Steamship Co SA, Panama
Sinbanali Shipping Inc, Philippines (disponent owner)
Port of registry: Philippines Manila, Philippines
Builder: STX Offshore & Shipbuilding, Changwon, South Korea
Yard number: 1240
Launched: 20 June 2008
In service: August 2008
Identification:
IMO number: 9360611
Callsign DYUG
General characteristics
Class and type: Container ship
Tonnage:
29,060 GT
39,565 DWT
Length: 222.6 metres (730 ft) loa
Beam: 31.1 metres (102 ft)
Installed power: 28,880 kW (39,265 bhp)
Speed: 25.3 knots (46.9 km/h; 29.1 mph)
Capacity: 2,858 teu containers
Crew: 20[1]

Wikipedia


5 posted on 06/19/2017 10:26:32 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Kaslin

This story about two ships colliding is NOT BELIEVABLE.

Their radar would have been going off the rails alerting them to a collision.

Was John Smith the captain of both ships?


6 posted on 06/19/2017 10:26:41 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

That’s exactly what I was thinking. If the cargo ship didn’t report the incident for an hour, then presumably this means the Navy vessel didn’t report it, either.


7 posted on 06/19/2017 10:30:46 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: Vendome

“Was John Smith the captain of both ships?”

Not John Smith, but rather Johnnie Walker.


8 posted on 06/19/2017 10:31:14 AM PDT by Timpanagos1
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To: al baby
How could the ship not have seen this coming, and gotten out of the way? The destroyer exists to find things above, on, or in the sea and uh, destroy them.

They are the shield of Zeus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arleigh_Burke-class_destroyer

The Arleigh Burke class of guided missile destroyers (DDGs) is the United States Navy's first class of destroyer built around the Aegis Combat System and the SPY-1D multifunction passive electronically scanned array radar. The class is named for Admiral Arleigh Burke, the most famous American destroyer officer of World War II, and later Chief of Naval Operations. The class leader, USS Arleigh Burke, was commissioned during Admiral Burke's lifetime.

These warships were designed as multimission destroyers[5] to fit the antiaircraft warfare (AAW) role with their powerful Aegis radar and surface-to-air missiles; antisubmarine warfare (ASW), with their towed sonar array, anti-submarine rockets, and ASW helicopter; antisurface warfare (ASuW) with their Harpoon missile launcher; and strategic land strike role with their Tomahawk missiles. With upgrades to their AN/SPY-1 phased radar systems and their associated missile payloads as part of the Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense System, the ships of this class have also begun to demonstrate some promise as mobile antiballistic missile and anti-satellite weaponry platforms. Some versions of the class no longer have the towed sonar, or Harpoon missile launcher. Their hull and superstructure were designed to have a reduced radar cross section.[8]

The first ship of the class was commissioned on 4 July 1991. With the decommissioning of the last Spruance-class destroyer, USS Cushing, on 21 September 2005, the Arleigh Burke-class ships became the U.S. Navy's only active destroyers; the class has the longest production run for any post-World War II U.S. Navy surface combatant.[9] Besides the 62 vessels of this class (comprising 21 of Flight I, 7 of Flight II and 34 of Flight IIA) in service by 2016, up to a further 42 (of Flight III) have been envisioned.

9 posted on 06/19/2017 10:33:04 AM PDT by garyb (What if you can't trust the voice in your head?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

What were they doing?

Howsabout: With the Captain severely injured—maybe trying to STAY AFLOAT AND NOT SINK???

Howsabout: What’s with all that maneuvering of the cargo carrier BEFORE THEY RAMMED the Fitzgerald??

No accident, this one.


10 posted on 06/19/2017 10:33:07 AM PDT by Flintlock (The ballot box STOLEN, our soapbox taken away--the BULLET BOX is left to us.)
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To: Kaslin

If our Navy’s destroyers cannot avoid a large slow moving cargo ship then they have no chance against a torpedo.

Or was this done intentionally by whomever was at the helm of the destroyer?


11 posted on 06/19/2017 10:36:27 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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“This story about two ships colliding is NOT BELIEVABLE.”

For this to work at all, the destroyer would have to be training under some sort of a stealth no emissions protocol and the container ship would have had to have some malfunction causing their radar etc. to be offline. If the destoyer is running passive in the dark and the container ship is making erratic maneuvers AND not emitting anything, maybe. Otherwise, yeah this is pretty weird.


12 posted on 06/19/2017 10:36:44 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: Kaslin
Was no one awake on the tincan ?

OD, XO & Captain will be Courts-Marshalled.

We still have Barry's cruise liners.


13 posted on 06/19/2017 10:38:04 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Flintlock

How do you know the maneuvering was before the accident?


14 posted on 06/19/2017 10:38:08 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: ClearCase_guy
The ships collided early Saturday morning, when the Navy said most of the 300 sailors on board would have been sleeping.

"most"?

Perhaps "all"?

Definitely not. Running a ship, especially a war ship, is a 24X7 job. There are all sorts of hazards at sea... from friendly ships, from hostile ships/planes, from weather and from mechanical equipment running the ship.... you have to be paying attention to communications in case new orders come in, etc. Weapons systems have to be kept operational, and of course other support systems are running too.

Hazards don't only work business hours, so neither do crews on ships.

15 posted on 06/19/2017 10:40:38 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Kaslin

Terrorism? How else does a tanker broadside a Destroyer? But how in the world did the Destroyer let itself get in the way of such a large ship? I thought the Titanic and Carpathia taught us not to turn off the electronics.


16 posted on 06/19/2017 10:40:51 AM PDT by Uncle Sam 911
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To: Kaslin

I don’t understand how a Navy destroyer could not know a ship was nearing them. These are hi-tech precision systems.


17 posted on 06/19/2017 10:41:31 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Vendome

Captain Hazelwood.


18 posted on 06/19/2017 10:42:15 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

I was talking with an old sailor over the weekend - he heard the the comm room was also damaged during the collision - which could help explain the delay (lack?) of notification.

However, I haven’t seen or heard that bit from any other source.


19 posted on 06/19/2017 10:43:54 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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K

So Hazelwood on one ship, leaking radiation and Smith on the other, taking on water...


20 posted on 06/19/2017 10:45:40 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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