Skip to comments.West Can Neither Live With nor Take Out North Korean Nukes
Posted on 07/13/2017 4:45:22 AM PDT by Kaslin
North Korea recently test-launched a long-range missile capable of reaching Alaska.
When North Korea eventually builds a missile capable of reaching the U.S. mainland, it will double down on its well-known shakedown of feigning indifference to American deterrence while promising to take out Los Angeles, San Francisco or Seattle unless massive aid is delivered to Pyongyang.
Kim Jong Un rightly assumes that wealthy Western nations would prefer to pay bribe money than suffer the loss of a city -- and that they have plenty of cash for such concessions. He is right that the medicine of taking out Kim's missiles is considered by Western strategists to be even worse than the disease of living with a lunatic regime that has nukes.
No wonder that the Clinton, Bush and Obama administrations had few answers to serial North Korean lying and deceit about its nuclear intentions.
Sanctions were eventually dropped or watered down either on reports of the mass starvation of innocent North Korean civilians or on false promises of better North Korean behavior.
China publicly promised to help reign in its unhinged client while privately doing nothing. Apparently, Beijing found a rabid North Korean government useful in bothering rivals such as the Japanese and South Koreans while keeping the U.S. off balance in Asia and the Pacific. The dynamic economies and pacifism of Japan, South Korea and Taiwan were taken for granted by China as easy targets for coercion and blackmail.
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Hanson has really gone down hill.
Life is about choices.
Given time, North Korea will have missiles with multiple warheads, and those missile will reach as far as NYC or Miami. What will stop such technological advances? Left to their own devices, North Korea will achieve this.
I say we take out North Korea in whatever way seems best. Certainly we want to minimize damage to South Korea. But we must recognize that there will be damage to South Korea. Lots of damage.
I’ve seen film of how we liberated France from the Nazis. We broke France pretty good. Lots of damage. We didn’t want to break France, but we accepted that as a necessary outcome of the fight against the Nazis. War is hell. We cannot live with a nuclear North Korea, so South Korea will suffer. Not a goal, but an inevitability.
Just as Israel has every right to take preemptive action in her defense, the USA has every right to strike NoKor first to protect ourselves.
We don’t need approval of any other country or the United Nutjobs to take action as our Commander-in-Chief sees fit.
Although some do argue that allowing Pyongyang to hit our insane left coast first before finishing North Korea off would be a win-win for us Americans...
For America, would the loss of San Francisco really be so bad?
Is San Francisco America?
Regarding North Korea, if a dozen or so individuals were exterminated, the problems would dissapate
I have an image of him standing at the DMZ, doing a Lloyd Dobler impression. Instead of In Your Eyes, he’s playing With Or Without You.
Micro-drone swarming can blind AND disable enough so other intercept defenses will be mostly adequate. The spectacular good crap the US armed forces has had for some time now makes Hollywood’s best look antiquated. All sides know this and is why the stand-off continues and will continue.
kil the fat little maniac and destroy their nuke program....
THE ONLY RATIONAL SOLUTION
most of the N Korean money goes to MILITARY and he has 1.7 million soldiers..
but they dont ahve FOOD or a real economy...
why let someone develop a weapon to then blackmail you with...or actually use it...
I would liek to thank Bill Clinton who endorsed and promoted the N Korean nuke program as wellas giving Loral space technology to China in return for illegal campaign contributions from the PLA... and thus the seeds of the current dilema were sown back then and no one has had the balls to put an end to it.. China likes having a nuke proxy... while pretending not to be able to stop it... Obama let China build ocean bases and expand their infuence... again this should ahve been stopped immediately. So in each case submissive behavior has gnerated bigger problems.. face the music and use the HAMMMER on this little fat cockroach...
To be perfectly honest, it is not a North Korean ICBM with a nuclear warhead that worries me. We have defenses to that that out.
What worries me is the availability of North Korean nuclear weapons to terrorist groups and other rouge regimes. A nuclear weapon can be set off in a container ship in one of our harbors NOW. That is why North Korea must phyically be stopped now.
Remember about 6 years ago, the Israelis bombed a Syrian port. It was reported that a convoy with Nork nuclear weapons and personel were headed to Hamas or Asad. It almost happened there.
What do you know about San Francisco? Have you ever been there? Do you know anyone who lives there? Apparently you support the murder of Americans. Does it take work to be an asshole?
Our best weapons are financial tools to cut off the flow of money for development of weapons to North Korea
However, most of their weapons development funding comes from Iran and Obama gave Iran 150 billion dollars plus another 400 million dollars secretly in the form of untraceable pallets of cash.
Obama’s horrible Iran deal both enables the Iranian and North Korean nuclear weapons and ballistic missile programs and undermines our best and possibly only tool for dealing with the North Korea's nuclear and other WMD proliferation programs
When NK starts invading other countries (like the U.S.) or parking 11 different carrier-fleets off various continents around the world (like the U.S.), then I’ll start worrying about their nuclear program. Until that time there’s only one nation that’s ever used one (the U.S.) Can we please stop the hyperventilating about NK?
While I'd love to lay this squarely on the gay kenyan usurper, George Bush also showed absolutely no backbone, and we may have missed the window of opportunity.
After some agonizing about this and the appearance that nothing is being done we will find out that Trump has it under control and we probably won’t be doing a military strike. The answer is in Peking, not Pyongyang. Trump is dealing with this
I am not so sure there are any Americans still in San Francisco. If there are they are no different from the Americans who were hanging out in Moscow in 1935 or the fifties. They would be unfortunate hors de combat but they chose to be there same as some Americans chose to be in Moscow back then.
We are in much the same pickle as Roosevelt during the run-up to WWII. He knew that it was enevitable that we would get in the game. However, he also knew that he couldn’t get ahead of the American people as many still had bad memories about being pulled into WWI and thereby did not support being involved in another foreign war. But, Japan handed him a gift by attacking Pearl Harbour as it created outrage and a cry for revenge across the country. Then, a few days after, Hitler handed him another gift by declaring war on the U.S. So, the best we can hope for regarding North Korea is that it will hand us a gift that will provide a clear existential reason to strike North Korea’s leadership, nuclear, and other military/industrial structures and completely destroy their military capability. Hopefully, the causal event will have minimal loss of life. I’m thinking the best we could hope for would be for North Korea to do something really stupid such as fire a neuclear tipped rocket at Japan or South Korea and that it be intercepted and destroyed in mid-flight by one of our missiles. But, we shall see ...
Hussein was waging Jihad against America with that money, consciously and malevolently. When you elect a Moslem as President you get a Moslem as President.
The policy of mutually assured destruction would probably work just fine for now. In other words, you hit us, we demolish you and your regime. Kim is a thug, not an ideologue. The sole purpose of his posturing is to convince us that he’s insane enough to use nuclear weapons, which of course he’s not.
sell Nukes to Taiwan, Japan, S. Korea, Jordan, Latvia. Do not threaten to do so, do it. That will get the attention of China and Russia.
If we are going to fight North Korea, we will be fighting along side South Koreans. They probably won’t be as cavalier about sacrificing their capital as you are. I’m not saying that the military option should be off the table but I don’t think we should approach it as if the death of millions of south Korean civilians is inevitable. If we really wanted to take this shit to the next level, we should relocate all the inhabitants of Seoul farther south, well out of range of the NK artillery and then start playing hard core brinksmanship with Kim. Basically force him to give us an excuse and don’t stop until he does. We should also let him and China know that any missiles observed headed towards the US, Japan, or South Korea will be assumed to be of the nuclear variety and that they can anticipate a massive nuclear retaliation. And of course, we should be increasing our presence and strengthening our alliances in the region prior to show time. We should also put together a nice arms deal for Taiwan while we’re at it. and when it is show time, fuck all of those NK civilians. They can be the ones dying in a sea of fire. Kill ‘em all.
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