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Participant in Cliven Bundy standoff sentenced to 68 years in prison
Los Angeles Times (via TriCity Herald) ^ | July 26, 2017 | DAVID MONTERO

Posted on 07/26/2017 10:30:59 PM PDT by Robwin

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To: kingu

Compared to the posts that fly back and forth on internet forums? Give me a break.Total miscarriage of justice.


41 posted on 07/27/2017 3:49:58 AM PDT by Bonemaker
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To: Robwin

Female judge involved in a gross miscarriage of justice...again.


42 posted on 07/27/2017 3:50:58 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: Robwin

It is long past time for G-d to pull the plug on this corrupt country.


43 posted on 07/27/2017 3:53:42 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: Robwin
This is a travesty.

Take those guards who are scarred for life and put them in a pen with a ribbon around it and a sign on it that says "Scarred for Life area".

44 posted on 07/27/2017 4:11:33 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Robwin

Rules and laws are for white men...


45 posted on 07/27/2017 4:12:02 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Robwin

This was not the hill to die on. Bundy was a thief, stealing resources by refusing to pay for his permit to graze on federal lands yet still allowing his cows to graze those lands.


46 posted on 07/27/2017 4:24:40 AM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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To: AlmaKing

“Who gets 68 years prison these days? What crime?”

The druggie punk who stabbed my cousin 28 times until death, only got 13 years. Out in 7. My cousin was a mess, but if I saw his killer on the street, I jusy might have an accelerator problem with my Toyota!


47 posted on 07/27/2017 4:36:19 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: taxcontrol

It’s NEVER “ the hill to die on” with you people...

LaVoy Finicum was murdered by Government agents, and many more before him, but that wasn’t the hill to die on. This man has been murdered by the courts, and it’s not the hill to die on...

Liberty is dead. We have become property of the state, to do with as they see fit; to make an example of if we’re ever stupid enough to believe that we own ourselves or our property.

If you enjoy being a slave to the government that was instituted to serve you, then “this wasn’t the hill to die on”.

When will it be? When they come to kick down your door, shoot your dog and kick in your teeth, I’m sure someone just like you will come along to point out the flaws in YOUR character and announce to the world:

“This wasn’t the hill to die on”.


48 posted on 07/27/2017 4:55:08 AM PDT by Hugh the Scot ("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
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To: Robwin

You know I take terrorism very serious in this country. It doesn't matter if that terrorism is domestic or abroad.


49 posted on 07/27/2017 5:03:17 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: AlmaKing

Hell we can’t get 68 corrupt criminals in the Deep State Swamp even 68 days in jail with Sessions at the helm. Unbelievable.


50 posted on 07/27/2017 5:06:02 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Hugh the Scot
When will it be?

Simple - when people's rights are being violated. Bundy's rights were not. He had his day in court and lost because he was doing / allowing something illegal to intentionally occur.

LaVoy is a separate issue, please stick to the thread topic of the Bundy standoff.

51 posted on 07/27/2017 5:06:45 AM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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To: taxcontrol

This was not the hill to die on. Bundy was a thief, stealing resources by refusing to pay for his permit to graze on federal lands yet still allowing his cows to graze those lands.

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Agreed.


52 posted on 07/27/2017 5:09:49 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Robwin

Seriously, this is a great opportunity for President Trump to issue either a commutation or pardon. It would be a win-win for him.

A commutation, reducing his prison time to zero, but him still keeping a conviction on his record, to mollify the federal officers who were “traumatized” like scared schoolchildren when meeting resistance to their oppression. At his age and ill health, having a conviction on his record means little or nothing.

A pardon, removing even that stain. It would also serve as a rebuke to the judge, the prosecutor, and the abusive federal agents.

Either way, president Trump wins. It is also a righteous victory against the excesses of the national police state, that at least the POTUS stands up for the people in the face of brutalitarian excess.


53 posted on 07/27/2017 5:19:15 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (HitlerÂ’s Mein Kampf, translated into Arabic, is "My Jihad")
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To: taxcontrol

I’m not even discussing Bundy, but if you wish to, why don’t you tell me what he was “stealing” and who the rightful owner would be?

LaVoy is not a separate topic. The topic is the death of liberty in the U.S.; the absolute subjugation of a once free people; the system that we’ve allowed to come into power that will kill you with impunity, sieze your property without due process, violate any principle of law or justice at any time it wishes and NEVER, NEVER, NEVER be held to account because we’re all cowards who don’t see this as “the hill to die on”.


54 posted on 07/27/2017 5:21:24 AM PDT by Hugh the Scot ("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
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To: Hugh the Scot

The rightful owner is the US Government, he was stealing by using land that he was not paying for and he knew that he had to pay for that use because he had previously paid for that use. This is something that every western rancher who leases land from the government knows about. You stop paying your lease, you lose the right to access or use that land.

The analogy for a home / land owner would be to lease land to someone for them to use, they stop paying for the use of that land, yet continue to use that land.

LaVoy is a separate issue and not the topic of this thread.


55 posted on 07/27/2017 5:33:26 AM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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To: taxcontrol
"The rightful owner is the US Government"


Here, we've identified the problem...
56 posted on 07/27/2017 5:36:38 AM PDT by Hugh the Scot ("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
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To: Hugh the Scot

If you disagree with the US Constitution and US law enabling the government to own lands, then vote in people who will propose the constitutional amendment and work to get it passed.

Dont point guns at federal agents who or executing lawful court orders!


57 posted on 07/27/2017 5:40:19 AM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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To: Robwin

This is clear retribution and it is sickening. There will be no pardon and this man will die in prison for what happened at The Bundy Ranch, not for his drunken mouth.

There are some lessons we can take from it though. First lesson is that you can not have it both ways. You are either standing up to an oppressive regime or you are NOT standing up to an oppressive regime. Half measures get you 68 years in prison. If you are 100% positive that the regime is oppressive then you should be 100% positive that they will LOCK YOU UP FOREVER!

American Patriot types are VERY naïve in this regard when compared to other actors around the world with more experience with brutal regimes. We still have this romanticized good guy/bad guy mentality about it. I couldn’t tell you how many times I’ve heard “I’m not covering my face, that’s for criminals”. Well ok then cowboy, enjoy your 68 years in prison.

This is 2017 and everything is being recorded. There is facial recognition technology and nano-drones the size of flies, you are not going toe to toe with the Red Coats in 1776. You are going toe to toe with Darth Freakin Vader and the Empire!

1. Cover your stupid mug
2. Use a War Name like everyone with a brain does
3. If you pull it, use it
4. If it talks to a camera, put it in a lake


58 posted on 07/27/2017 5:43:35 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: JohnyBoy

Agreed.


59 posted on 07/27/2017 5:49:09 AM PDT by Lopeover (The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: taxcontrol

I’m not the one disagreeing with the Constitution, you are.

<a href=”https://i2i.org/what-does-the-constitution-say-about-federal-land-ownership/


60 posted on 07/27/2017 5:51:34 AM PDT by Hugh the Scot ("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
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