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Seattle's $15 Minimum Wage Debate Catches Small Businesses in the Middle
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | July 27, 2017 | Jessica Mendoza

Posted on 07/27/2017 11:20:03 AM PDT by Jagermonster

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To: jonno

Better yet, tie it to town & county employees salaries and see how fast they vote the other way.


21 posted on 07/27/2017 1:07:16 PM PDT by certrtwngnut (Hey snowflake. You want a safe place go to a gun range.)
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To: Jagermonster

A business owner/manager has 50 cents. The owner/manager can do the following with this 50 cents:

— nothing, save it
— spend it on booze
— spend it on entry level employees
— spend it on mid-level employees
— spend it on executive level employees
— spend it on a mink coat for his wife
— spend it on insurance for his employees
— spend it on roof repairs
— spend it on advertising
— spend it on current raw product
— spend it on supplies
— spend it on product upgrades
— spend it on paint
— spend it on the electric bill

Who is in the best position to determine the best way to deploy that 50 cents?

The owner/manager? Or the pompous, santimonious, self-rigteous, phony, power-hungry, vote-sucking ignorant charlatan on the city or county board?

Who has greater moral value? A person working entry level? A person at a paint company? A person at a roofing company? A person at an asphalt company? A person at a butcher company? A person at a supply company? A person in a mid-level position? A person in an executive position? A person at the electic company?

What should be done with politicians who point at a specific class of human and claim that that class, and not some other class, deserves favor of government and wealth redistribution? Hot tar and feathers or cold tar and feathers?

Might the best business and economic choice be to spend this 50 cents on entry level employees? Yes. How likely is this?

AT BEST, LAWS COMPELLING THE BUSINESS OWNER TO DEPLOY HIS RESOURCES IN SPECIFIC WAYS CAN DO NO BETTER THAN ALLOW THE BUSINESS TO BREAK EVEN WITH WHAT MIGHT HAVE OTHERWISE BEEN THE CASE. THEY WILL INSTEAD MOSTLY REDUCE BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC EFFECTIVENESS BY SOME SMALL OR NOT SO SMALL AMOUNT. THEY CAN NEVER, EVER, INCREASE ECONOMIC AND BUSINESS WELL-BEING.


22 posted on 07/27/2017 1:09:58 PM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: Jagermonster

I would love to work with Jon (pronounced Joan) and many other liberals/progressives like her (/no-sarc)

She has goals different from me (I think) but understands the worth/value of employees as an element to wages. She likes the goal of $15/hour but understands a lot of employees are not worth it. I probably like the goal for different reasons - having more people “worth” $15/hour is good for the economy.

I’ve worked for a number of companies who put a lot of effort into making employees “worth more”. And those employees get raises in relation to their value to the company (in one large company almost anyone with ANY personal drive could be doing great financially in a few years after starting at minimum wage if they take advantage of training/mentoring provided).

Politicians give a lot of lip service to education and training but more into minimum wage in places like Oregon. I think Jon (and many other liberals/progressive business owners) could teach politicians a lot about how to make low wage workers WORTH $15/hour. And that’s how to raise the wages that people earn. Paying $15/hour to those who are not providing that value is an economic drain. Making more people worth $15/hour is a huge productivity boost for the economy. And it’s doable if people like Jon start pushing “worth” rather than “wages”.


23 posted on 07/27/2017 1:13:58 PM PDT by LostPassword
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To: Jagermonster

Fire enough people so that those wages can make up the difference with those that stay?


24 posted on 07/27/2017 1:17:21 PM PDT by SkyDancer (You know they invented wheelbarrows to teach FAA inspectors to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: Jagermonster

If I saw a sign saying: ‘Resist Trump: Keep America Great’ at a store, I would tell the owner I’ll resist my business there.


25 posted on 07/27/2017 1:33:43 PM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is DEPLORABLE :-))
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To: Jagermonster

The gradual minimum wage increase each year is boiling the frogs (small business owners) slowly.

At some point they have to jump out of the pot (close the business).

Think of it as the Seattle City Council in action...


26 posted on 07/27/2017 1:47:37 PM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: Jagermonster

“Ms. Milazzo is all for the idea that employees – especially those at the bottom of the pay scale – receive a fair wage for their work.”

Until I impacts her bottom line anyway. Liberals are such frauds.

L


27 posted on 07/27/2017 1:50:32 PM PDT by Lurker (America burned the witch.)
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The liberals, on the other hand, need to wallow in the swill they have created. Some will learn from it.

And others will move to red states and foul their new nest.

28 posted on 07/27/2017 2:06:00 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I don’t know, it seems like the paper isn’t much on either side. This is good reporting in the ‘man on the street’ style, its just that the interviewees are all from Seattle. I think the discussion of the real world (and totally predictable to anybody outside Seattle) effects of the law balance the lefty point of view of the interviewees.


29 posted on 07/27/2017 2:18:40 PM PDT by Jagermonster (TANSTAAFL)
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To: LostPassword
I think people instinctually understand how things like business and value work. Politics can suppress it when it comes to voting habits, but when it comes to actually making a living, it comes out.

Jōn here grasps what needs to occur:
For years, she says, she and her business partner would hire teenagers at entry level, training them in both the nuts and bolts of the business and a meaningful work ethic.

But as higher rents and rising taxes converged with the new minimum wage policy, Milazzo says she was forced to trim her staff and use fewer resources on training beginners. “The water level was going up all around us,” she says. “So we made that decision. When you come in, you’ve got to have skills.”
She wants her money's worth from the employee. If she has to pay a $15/hr, she wants a $15/hr value employee, not a $9/hr value employee.

Liberal as she may be, she also knew that it was worthwhile to turn a $9/hr employee into a higher performer.

Sad that all this is disrupted by political idiocy.
30 posted on 07/27/2017 2:30:58 PM PDT by Jagermonster (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Jagermonster
But she is straining to reconcile her principles with what’s best for her business.

In other words, now that HER ox is getting gored, she's doesn't like it. Typical lib.

31 posted on 07/27/2017 2:58:44 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Jagermonster

LOL! A hard core Lib being hurt by hard core Lib policies and thinks being a hard core Lib makes sense......Priceless!


32 posted on 07/28/2017 2:47:47 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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