Skip to comments.Obama’s IRS ‘misled’ Obamacare customers: Audit
Posted on 08/06/2017 1:26:27 PM PDT by Lorianne
The Obama administration misled Americans into thinking signing up for Obamacare would be cheaper than it really was, according to an inspector generals report Thursday that said the IRS dramatically understated the actual cost of enrolling.
IRS officials sent the letters to try to prod Americans to comply with the 2010 health laws individual mandate that penalizes them for not holding coverage.
But as part of the letters, the IRS said most people could find plans for $75 a month or less once government subsidies were figured in.
That was untrue in fact, the average cost was more than twice that figure, at $168 a month, the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration said.
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It was in insurance company executive get-richer scheme. And I'm sure a lot of others got their piece of that deal along the way to. Taxpayers, not so much.
No, they LIED.
But, never forget...RUSSIA!!
Consequences to any government official? None. In fact, John Koskinen is still running the IRS seven months into the Trump Administration.
I trace most of the current Middle East problems to that one seminal event. The Shah was an imperious tyrant, but he was no religious fanatic, imposing strict limits on behavior at the most minute level, and vastly different from the anthill thinking of Saudi Arabia.
Islam is not ready for the benefits of democratic government, and certainly not a representative republic.
Islam may never be ready for any experiment in freedom.
Yes, a lie from the very start.
And the press lies by omission by not reporting this - it should have been the lead item on every evening newscast, or at least reported. Of course it wasn’t.
Patriot Illinois peeps should sue the state regarding forger obama day. Make them produce the forged birth certificate that says “august 4” is the commie dirtbag ‘s birthday!
Profoundly true statement.
Trump is given to hyperbole and I got no problem with it. Doesn’t affect my life or anyone else for that matter.
Obama regularly lied on matters of substance and law intruding on and affecting the everyday lives of million of American’s.
The 0bama presidency was an eight year lie from beginning to end.
The Legacy is a lie. The lie is the Legacy.
"The whole thing was a lie from start to finish."
I agree 100%.
In fact, the Supreme Court wrongly gave the impression that deciding the constitutionality of Obamacare was the first time that the Court had considered the constitutionality of a national federal healthcare plan.
More specifically, the Roberts Court wrongly ignored that previous generations of state sovereignty-respecting Supreme Court justices had clarified that the states have never expressly constitutionally delegated to feds the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for INTRAstate healthcare purposes. This is evidenced by the excerpts from Supreme Court case opinions below.
Regarding the Roberts justices bluffing that the Obamacare insurance mandate is constitutional for example, consider the fourth entry in the list from Paul v. Virginia. In that case the Court had clarified that the scope of Congresss Commerce Clause powers does not include regulating contracts, including insurance contracts, regardless if the parties negotiating the insurance contract are domiciled in different states.
"State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphasis added]. Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States. Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
"Inspection laws, quarantine laws, health laws of every description [emphasis added], as well as laws for regulating the internal commerce of a state and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c., are component parts of this mass. Justice Barbour, New York v. Miln., 1837.
"4. The issuing of a policy of insurance is not a transaction of commerce within the meaning of the latter of the two clauses, even though the parties be domiciled in different States, but is a simple contract [emphases added] of indemnity against loss. Paul v. Virginia, 1869. (The corrupt feds have no Commerce Clause (1.8.3) power to regulate insurance.)
"Direct control of medical practice in the states is obviously [emphases added] beyond the power of Congress. Linder v. United States
"From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added]. United States v. Butler, 1936.
swamp sewer! Drain the sewer!
Remember in November 2018 !
Since corrupt Congress is the biggest part of the sewer (imo) that Trump wants to drain, it is actually up to patriots to drain the sewer in the 2018 elections, patriots supporting Trump by electing as many new members of Congress as they can who will support Trump.
In the meanwhile, patriots need to make sure that there are plenty of Trump-supporting candidates on the primary ballots.
Patriots need to qualify candidates by asking them why the Founding States made the Constitutions Section 8 of Article I; to limit (cripple) the federal governments powers.
Patriots also need to make sure that candidates are knowledgeable of the Supreme Court's clarifications of the federal governments limited powers listed above.
Also, unlike incumbent members of Congress who wrongly remained silent while misguided state officials abridged the constitutionally enumerated rights of citizens during the lawless Obama Administration, patriots need to make sure that candidates on the 2018 primary ballots commit to the following.
Candidates need to commit to making and enforcing 14th Amendment-related laws to prosecute misguided state officials who use state powers to abridge constitutionally enumerated protections, 1st Amendment-protected religious expression and free speech for example, such actions prohibited by Section 1 of the 14th Amendment.
14th Amendment, Section 1: All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States [emphasis added]; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Again, drain the sewer! Drain the sewer!
I never trusted that John Koskinen from day one. I hope justice is forthcoming for him.
That defines the whole 8 years!!
“Drain the sewer!”
That sewer has been backed up for a long, long, time.
The stench is overwhelming and is/has people becoming overtaken. Their brain is/has been permeated and dulled.
So, Drain the sewer!
Say it isn’t so..
Remember in November 2018 !
Bubba, I do not know what Planet you are on - Nov. 2018 is WAY too late, unless you like people such as Arizona's REPUBLICAN Senators Flake and McCain running against some one - anyone
Since the people on this site always yell at people to vote Republican you are already WAY too late
You need to start with the Primaries which Start in March in Texas
Ive been posting a drain the swamp message concerning the 2018 election year primaries since probably November of 2016.
There were carve outs for the AMA... still wondering how that medicare reimbursement calculation works in red vs blue districts. Also, safety net status.
“The IRS said it was only using numbers provided by Department of Health and Human Services and verified by the Treasury Department.”
And why would they lie? /s
Accept my apology - Please be much more specific in your posts.