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A warning from George Orwell on the ‘monument wars’
NY Post ^ | August 16, 2017 | Seth Lipsky

Posted on 08/16/2017 11:14:51 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom

In the new Civil War, I’m with George — as in George Washington. It’s one thing to start dismantling monuments of Civil War generals. It would be another to go after the most famous founding father.

Washington’s name was raised Tuesday by President Trump. He wheeled on reporters and tried — yet again — to suggest an equivalence between the alt-right and alt-left at Charlottesville. Trump was getting his head handed to him when he noted that there were people there “to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue.”

The president was referring to Robert E. Lee, hero of the Confederacy. Charlottesville had long since made its decision to remove its statue of Lee. It acted through its city council, the democratic way.

On Monday, though, protesters in Durham, N.C., took matters into their own hands. They slung a rope around the neck of the statue of a Confederate soldier and pulled it down.

“So will George Washington now lose his status?” the president asked on Tuesday. “Are we going to take down statues to George Washington? How about Thomas Jefferson?”

It’s a good question — no doubt the question for many Americans. It’s not that the alt-left has already got its noose around statues of Washington, but the leftist-outrage industry does move fast.

Even in New York.

Mayor de Blasio tweeted Wednesday, “New York City will conduct a 90-day review of all symbols of hate on city property.”

Protesters have already swarmed the statue of Teddy Roosevelt at the Museum of Natural History. They reckon it’s a symbol of white supremacy.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1984; orwell; purge; radicalleft; statues
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How long before they deem Conservatives to be evil and ban everything they try to honor or publish? Google already manipulates searches away from conservative sites. Facebook and Twitter ban conservatives. Trump was elected to drain the swamp but now it's looking like the swamp is using Trump as the excuse to ban and destroy even more.
1 posted on 08/16/2017 11:14:51 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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2 posted on 08/16/2017 11:15:41 PM PDT by nutmeg (CNN is on in all the airports. MSNBC is on in all the insane asylums.)
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If our nation's founding fathers are determined in the court of public opinion to be just evil slaveowners, then it will be much easier for the leftists to undermine what little is left of the Constitution and the other founding documents created by those great men.

It is a short step to a rewritten Constitution similar to those phonebook-sized atrocities cooked up in totalitarian dictatorships around the world.

3 posted on 08/16/2017 11:20:06 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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Wasn’t Teddy Roosevelt one of the earliest progressives?

4 posted on 08/16/2017 11:23:22 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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The Left is the true evil. How many lives have been exterminated because of Leftist ideology? Fascism is a product of the Left. Democrats in the South created segregation and Jim Crow. The KKK was manned by Democrats. Hitler borrowed from the Democrats in the South their ideology of racism. Nazi dogma against the Jews has writings that are word for word the writings of Democrat racists.

5 posted on 08/16/2017 11:25:18 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental illness: A totalitarian psyche.)
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Can the statues of Malcom x in Manhattan and Oakland come down, too? how about art? on to that next? music? look out NY Philharmonic. And Broadway. Oh, and that bastillion of whiteness, Hollywood!

6 posted on 08/16/2017 11:26:56 PM PDT by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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Yes, Teddy was an early “progressive”. He was also quite racist, sharing that with Woodrow Wilson, another early “progressive”.

Teddy was definitely a pro-American progressive, while Wilson was trending toward internationalism, but still mostly pro-American.

Today’s “progressives” are definitely *not* pro-American. They see America as an impediment to their globalist impulses.

7 posted on 08/16/2017 11:33:23 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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Nice little rant you've got going there, but in your clumsy attempt at absolving Republicans, Republicans of all the silly things, of all blame for any historical wrong imagined or otherwise, you resort to a petty regionalism that ignores where the real problem lies in this country. I've got news for you, it ain't in the south.

You imagine that segregation was somehow just a southern thing. Wrong. Also, Margaret Sanger was no southerner, eugenics policies were adopted and enforced by the state far and wide with what little resistance there was at that time being southern, it was regarded as "progressive" at that time, you see.

Question: who was "progressive" in word and deed in that era, and what did it mean? You don't appear to quite understand just who was what, and just who advocated doing what to whom back then.

8 posted on 08/16/2017 11:41:24 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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9 posted on 08/16/2017 11:42:06 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me -
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10 posted on 08/16/2017 11:43:24 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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Shame on the LGBTers! The birth of the gay rights movement sharing their name with ..a....GASP! Confederate General!! UGH!!!When are they gonna change the name? And 0bama was so proud of his efforts at naming this place a national monument.

11 posted on 08/16/2017 11:59:01 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (Islamophobic? NO! IslamABHORic)
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The eugenics evil as spread by Charles Davenport went far and wide in America. It had great appeal to such people as Margaret Sanger. It also had great appeal to Hitler.

Eugenics had appeal to politicians in America when they adopted the eugenics ideology to apply to American Indians and Blacks. It gave support to segregation in the south as freed slaves impacted the job market of southerners. Laws were passed to prevent ex-slaves from taking jobs away from white men. Blacks were demonized as inferior humans and this thinking influenced Southern Democrats who were in the middle of a serious economic situation after the Civil War. Politicians had to have a scapegoat for the economic woes in the south.

Southern whites blamed the slaves for taking all the jobs and the money. So, I look at the segregation of the blacks in the south as a reaction to horrible economic times with ideologies such as eugenics giving justification.

12 posted on 08/17/2017 12:27:13 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental illness: A totalitarian psyche.)
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An that’s why i think for the first time since i’ve been on this site, that a civil war is possible.

deblasio is going to deem Columbus as hateful and change the name of columbus circle and take down his statues and i will be in prison when that happens because i will do all in my power to stop it.

Cant have ANY European celebration days.

I guess there goes the parade in Manhattan that the Italia President has been in!

This is bad

13 posted on 08/17/2017 12:29:56 AM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know that if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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“Southern whites blamed the slaves for taking all the jobs and the money.”

Think. While it was absolutely not the fault of slaves, the establishment of the antebellum South used slave labor to their benefit and that slave labor undercut the value of all labor, even that of free whites in the south. The evil of slavery brutalized the slave and diminished the value of the free.

It is no different today when the establishment imports illegal labor and indentured H1-B labor for their benefit while driving down the wages of Americans as well as burdening Americans with higher taxes to pay for the welfare payments subsidizing this modern slavery. I don’t hate illegal alien Mexicans but I have to admit to a white hot hatred towards the establishment that brutalizes both Americans and Mexicans.

The time is coming for choosing; fight to live free or to die a slow death of hopelessness, impoverishment, and subjugation. What will you choose?

14 posted on 08/17/2017 12:41:41 AM PDT by WMarshal (President Trump, a president keeping his promises to the American people. It feels like winning.)
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I’d sooner add Grant than remove Lee, though.

Lee in isolation IS asking for trouble.

15 posted on 08/17/2017 12:46:27 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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H1B in its modern incarnation (it was intended to ease the process of getting another Werner Von Braun, NOT the plethora of Asian IT workers we have now) is the worst of a number of worlds.

I might be going into an interesting situation where I’ll be a project leader to a number of Indian H1B’s. I’m going to encourage them to consider where their true heart is, whether it’s in IT work in the Western world. And if it is with the West, by all means consider becoming a citizen of the USA. But if it’s with India, then consider learning what you can here and then taking it to India for a blessing back home. This line of thought was suggested to me by an article, shared to me on Facebook by an Indian colleague, that was about people complaining about Indian workers’ lack of mastery of English. It turns out that many of them were placed in pressure situations to earn what they can in the West and send it back home, rather than having their heart in it. And so, their English tends to be terrible; they don’t have an affinity for the West.

16 posted on 08/17/2017 12:53:30 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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19 posted on 08/17/2017 1:23:37 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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In the meantime, though, how would you suggest finding out what caste a person is. That seems a rather gauche question for egalitarian America. I think I’d look at how someone behaves. A noble minded Brahmin might be less trouble than an uppity Dalit, and it’s the principle that counts here.

20 posted on 08/17/2017 1:24:11 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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