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Baader-Meinhof terrorist may have worked for the Stasi [Antifa parent group spied for East Germany]
The Guardian ^ | 08/01/2011

Posted on 08/21/2017 12:08:24 AM PDT by Fedora

[Subtitle: German media claims Horst Mahler identified as an informant for East German secret police in leaked report into 1967 shooting]

He is one of the most paradoxical and notorious figures in modern German history: a social democrat lawyer turned leftwing terrorist who went to prison, turned to Maoism and then came out as a far-right nationalist.

Now there is another twist: Horst Mahler, a founding member of the Red Army Faction, was also a Stasi informant.

According to German newspaper reports, the revelation comes from a leaked report by state prosecutors re-investigating the shooting of a pacifist by a Berlin policeman during a 1967 protest...

The West Berlin policeman who pulled the trigger, Karl-Heinz Kurras, was exposed as a Stasi agent two years ago. The new leaked report even suggests he deliberately fired at Ohnesorg, though he was twice cleared of deliberate homicide.

If Mahler was also working for the Stasi – a fact his lawyer suggests is unlikely – does this mean he was somehow in on a plot to disrupt West Germany by introducing violence into the student protests?...

Later on, when Mahler was in prison for bank robberies and assisting a prison escape, Gerhard Schröder, Germany's future chancellor, became his lawyer.

If the leaked investigation into Ohnesorg's death is right, Mahler only stopped being a Stasi informant when he founded the Red Army Faction with Ulrike Meinhof, Andreas Baader and Gudrun Ensslin in 1970. He was arrested shortly afterwards and spent all of the 1970s in jail.

The true circumstances of Ohnesorg's death are important because the killing is widely credited as the catalyst for the radicalisation of the West German left, including those who went on to form the Red Army Faction.

According to Bild am Sonntag, state prosecutors decided to reopen the investigation into the death in May 2009 after Kurras was outed as a Stasi agent. The newspaper claims the leaked report shows the East German secret police played a bigger role in the shooting than was previously thought.

The GDR is already known to have tried to undermine West Germany by funding radical magazines and newspapers plotting its downfall, and, in the late1970s and 80s, offering sanctuary to Red Army Faction terrorists on the run...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1967; antifa; baadermeinhof; germany; horstmahler; karlheinzkurras; konkret; konkrete; mahler; ohnesorg; redarmyfaction; stasi
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1 posted on 08/21/2017 12:08:24 AM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

They did. Worked through an East German (Stasi supported) publication known as Konkrete.

This is off the top of my head but in the 70’s there was a lot on the BMG and East German connections. Should be on the internet.

Many were trained in east German, PLO, PFLP and Cuban camps.


2 posted on 08/21/2017 12:16:22 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Fedora

>Later on, when Mahler was in prison for bank robberies and assisting a prison escape, Gerhard Schröder, Germany’s future chancellor, became his lawyer.

I think Schröder’s possible ties to the Stasi/KGB should also be looked into. He directed billions to Russian benefit as a chancellor, killed the Nabucco gas pipeline and championed Russian North Stream and accepted a high paying post in Russia’s Gazprom board weeks after losing his re-election.


3 posted on 08/21/2017 12:19:19 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Thanks for the lead!


4 posted on 08/21/2017 12:20:08 AM PDT by Fedora
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To: Krosan

I have always wondered about that aspect of Schröder’s career as well.


5 posted on 08/21/2017 12:21:59 AM PDT by Fedora
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Speaking of their PLO training, I should add this: Baader Meinhof PLO Training Camp
6 posted on 08/21/2017 12:26:28 AM PDT by Fedora
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Add Claire Sterling’s work, “The Terror Network” tracing Soviet support, financial, material, and training through various Warsaw Pact cut-outs, Chiefly GDR, Czech, Bulgarian. C. Sterling-
‘s work was attacked by various western jorno’s as wild fantasy. With the release of KGB docs. a back track might reveal how many were on Soviet payroll and/or pinko fellow travel useful idiots.

NATO counter offensive plan, “Operation Gladio” in the event of successful Soviet invasion and occupation of western Europe might have been compromised by STASI doubles in Bundeswehr officer ranks, not exclude provocateur actions.


7 posted on 08/21/2017 12:45:35 AM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: Covenantor; MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Speaking of Sterling, that reminds me, Powell's Covert Cadre mentions that Peter Weiss (Institute for Policy Studies) petitioned to lend his services to defending the Baader-Meinhof Gang; IPS had a European branch, the Transnational Institute (TNI), and was linked to the Stasi's network via e.g. Orlando Letelier.
8 posted on 08/21/2017 1:12:04 AM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

I see many similarities between the RAF and the Antifa.
Both seem to have connections with radical islam.
Both used made up reasons to justify their actions.
Both were very political in purpose.
Both were very dangerous.


9 posted on 08/21/2017 1:14:46 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: Fedora

Thanks for the lead to “Covert Cadre”.


10 posted on 08/21/2017 1:16:50 AM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: Fedora

Well sure, commie scum is commie scum.


11 posted on 08/21/2017 1:20:00 AM PDT by Enchante (Searching throughout the country for one honest Democrat....)
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To: Krosan

There’s no way they would have used Schroder for such a role unless they knew for sure he was politically “reliable” — there must be a lot more behind the scenes to know about Schroder and his possible/likely relationship to the Stasi and/or Soviets.


12 posted on 08/21/2017 1:22:15 AM PDT by Enchante (Searching throughout the country for one honest Democrat....)
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To: Fedora

Funny how much the US gets maligned for its actions during the Cold War, but the soviets get off with a slap on the wrist. Keep guzzling Russian gas and spreading the anti-America gospel Merkel, those Poles seem pretty keen on getting a closer relationship with us.


13 posted on 08/21/2017 2:04:16 AM PDT by BostonNeocon
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To: Fedora

There’s no “may have” to it.


14 posted on 08/21/2017 2:08:23 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Looks like konkret was the name of the magazine: konkret.
15 posted on 08/21/2017 2:22:45 AM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

Never heard of this guy.

If being a Stasi informant is big news, why isn’t Merkel actually being in the Stasi not an issue.


16 posted on 08/21/2017 3:24:14 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: Fedora

“the most paradoxical and notorious figures in modern German history: a social democrat lawyer turned leftwing terrorist who went to prison, turned to Maoism and then came out as a far-right nationalist.”

Nope. Not paradoxical at all. Behold!:

- a social democrat lawyer = Leftwinger.
- turned leftwing terrorist = Leftwinger.
- turned to Maoism = Leftwinger.
- “far-right nationalist” = Leftwinger in Europe. The only real “far right” in Europe are monarchists. When the media in Europe call you “far right” in Europe you’re a socialist of some kind who also believes in nationalism, hence National Socialism.

In other words, the only change in his political views in 50 years are that he is now more nationalistic than he used to be. That’s it.


17 posted on 08/21/2017 7:07:59 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Fedora

Google “Operation Gladio”.


18 posted on 08/21/2017 10:08:33 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui (Smarter - Faster)
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To: Fedora

The head of the IPS’s Transnational Institute in London was Marxist Tariq Ali (I believe he was a Pakistani). They had lots of ties to communist movements and governments around the world, esp. in Europe and the Middle East/Asia Minor.

Orlando Letelier, a Chilean Marxist, was the IPS/TNI operative, often using East Germany as a place of operations.

Congress has never held a hearing on who he really was and what was found in his briefcase after he was killed in a bomb explosion in DC. Letelier also was the “pet project” and “Chilean socialist” of the reds in Congress, including Ted Kennedy, I think Bella Abzug, Don Fraser, and most of the HY/California red representative.


19 posted on 08/21/2017 8:55:42 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Enchante

Willie Brandt’s personal aide, Guillaume, was a Soviet/East German spy. Even “TIME or “Newsweek” magazine had a big expose’ on this in the 1970’s or more likely the early 80’s.


20 posted on 08/21/2017 9:01:17 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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