Posted on 08/22/2017 3:00:46 PM PDT by MosesKnows
Also a defensible view.
Sooo, now that blacks are free, why don’t they escape back to their homelands?
I didn’t like commmmie dictature of proletariat, I escaped from it.
Stop bitching and stealing and go back to your paradise.
Noob, we are talking about winning and losing, not right and wrong.
It is interesting - the left’s long game is to delegitimize this country, to make it appear so corrupt and disgraceful that they can institute their brand of government to save all of us from the terrible conditions under which we lived before - by removing confederate statues and attempting to destroy evidence of our “racist” past, they are in effect sanitizing our history, and making us look more humanitarian and egalitarian than they want to believe we were - they would seem to be working against their own goals......
OK PAR 35 ; we are not talking about right or wrong. How in your terms do you see 1877 as the year when the South won the war.?! I still do’nt quite see it.
The occupying troops were withdrawn and their corrupt puppets fled. Folks were able to regain control of the local government.
The folks who end up with the territory and the institutions are generally considered the winners.
Everyone got a participation ribbon.
Par 35 ; OK you explained the concept of winning. Locals regained control. Not about right or wrong. Just who won. OK thanks for the explanation.
Guess who will win the Second One?
Seriously, it doesn’t stop with the Confederate monuments or anything Civil War related, there is an end in mind by the left and in their vision, no one on the right lives.
Is your book already in print or is there time to correct your mistakes?
Janary 1, 1863. -- Lincoln frees the slaves.
Lincoln did not free the slaves in 1863.
April 9, 1865. -- U.S. General Grant accepts the surrender of the Confederate army from an unknown general.
U.S. General Grant accepts the surrender of the Confederate army Army of Northern Virginia from an unknown general.
There were other Confederate armies with different generals surrendering at different times at different locations.
That’s my book right there, and you’ve made the correction. I know about the Emancipation. I know about the Army of Northern Virginia and the other armies, but I didn’t want to bother the reader with that kind of detail. This is a book for the modern reader who wants a high-altitude view of the war, and doesn’t have time for minutia such as the causes and effects of the war, the battles and flow of the war, the complexity of the personalities who fought the war, and painfully irrelevant and boring historical facts.
"History will be kind to me for I intend to write it." -- Winston Churchill
History is the version of past events that people have decided to agree upon. Napoleon Bonaparte (1769 - 1821)
“History repeats itself, the first time as tragedy; the second time as farce.” Karl Marx.
The only thing new in the world is the history you don't know. Harry Truman
The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903)
We learn from history that we learn nothing from history. George Bernard Shaw
"History does not entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." Dwight D. Eisenhower
"The falsification of history has done more to impede human development than any one thing known to mankind" Rousseau
"If you cut the people off from their history, then they can be easily persuaded."-- Karl Marx
"We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force." Ayn Rand, in "The Nature of Government"
Are you revising history by omission
How can a historical fact be painful and irrelevant? The relevancy of the fact is what makes the fact painful.
Even Rush Limbaugh’s history books for children provide enough minutia to understand history.
I guess I should have tagged my posts with /sarc
I was just trying to make your point in a different way. Your point, as I understand it, is that if you keep taking away parts of the story — and monuments are part of the story and the telling of it — what are you going to have left? My point was if you keep taking away parts of the story, you’ll be left with my “book” of a dozen sentences, bare of details and sketchy on facts.
I don’t expect this effort to end with the removal monuments. Some historical reenactments — a wonderful way to present history — have been affected because the Confederate reenactors are now reluctant to show up and participate. Who is to say that museums won’t be next? Or eventually books. And without these methods, both subject and objective, to tell the story, then the story and the history are lost.
I can see that now. Unfortunately I didn't see it earlier.
May I say with all due respect; point taken and appreciated.
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