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Has India Secretly Supplied Vietnam with 6,000-pound Supersonic Missiles?
Sputnik International ^ | 02.09.2017

Posted on 09/01/2017 9:37:36 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Has India Secretly Supplied Vietnam with 6,000-pound Supersonic Missiles?

Vietnamese state media claim Hanoi and New Delhi not only agreed on a deal to send BrahMos supersonic projectiles to Hanoi, but also say the weapons have been delivered. India’s Ministry of External Relations, though, denies such a deal exists.

When asked specifically about the acquisition of the BrahMos, Vietnamese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Thi Thu Hang said on August 18 “the procurement of defense equipment by Vietnam is consistent with the policy of peace and self-defense and is the normal practice in self-defense.”

India’s External Relations Ministry said reports of BrahMos cruise missiles reaching Hanoi were “incorrect” August 22.

Whether the deal has been completed could have major strategic implications. First, the short-range ramjet supersonic cruise missile has a 600-kilometer range that puts some Chinese-owned features in the South China Sea in range. The level of tension between Hanoi and Beijing peaked recently when the People’s Liberation Army threatened to attack Vietnamese posts in the South China Sea if a joint venture between Hanoi and Madrid to explore oil fields there wasn’t called off.

Secondly, Beijing and New Dehli have only just ended a chilling military standoff at the Doklam Plateau that began in mid-June. With bilateral relations between China and India already sensitive, the shipment of the fastest missiles on Earth to Vietnam could spark unwanted rifts.

The BrahMos is made jointly by India’s Defence Research and Development Organization and NPO Mashinostroyenia, which was formed by New Dehli and Moscow in 1998.

Vietnam remains a central aspect of India’s Act East foreign policy initiative to build influence in Southeast Asia. In the same way Beijing has cultivated ties with Pakistan, a country perennially at odds with India, Prime Minister Narendra Modi has sought deeper relations with Hanoi, the Diplomat reports. In 2016, Modi made the first trip by an Indian prime minister to Vietnam in 15 years as the countries’ leaders toasted to 10 years of strategic partnership.

On August 10, US Defense Secretary James Mattis announced that a US aircraft carrier would drop anchor off Vietnam’s coast in 2018 as Vietnam becomes a more important counterweight to Beijing. And just on Friday, the Wall Street Journal broke news that the Pentagon had finalized a schedule for the US Navy to conduct freedom of navigation operations (FONOPs) in the South China Sea “to create a more consistent posture to counter China’s maritime claims there.”

Beijing has routinely bashed FONOPs, though Washington views them as a way to highlight its excessive claims in the South China Sea. US Pacific Command has completed the finishing touches on a plan to conduct two or three FONOPs over the next few months, unnamed US officials told the WSJ.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: brahmos; brahmosmissile; china; india; russia; russianpropaganda; russianstooges; russiasucks; vietnam
India is arming China's neighbors which resent China.
1 posted on 09/01/2017 9:37:36 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Indian offer to sell Brahmos missiles to Vietnam stalled

MANU PUBBY - August 30, 2017

Vietnam is reconsidering deal as it is in direct talks with Russia for supply of similar missiles

Contrary to reports earlier this month in the Vietnamese media about sale and delivery of Brahmos cruise missiles, negotiations for the system with India have stalled, with indications that Hanoi is reconsidering the offer.

Sources who did not wish to be named told ThePrint that detailed talks had been held on the sale of the cruise missiles — jointly developed and produced by India and Russia — but the matter got stuck on pricing and technology issues.

India has offered Vietnam a $500 million line of credit for defence-related equipment, but the utilisation of these funds depends on what the nation requires. India is already working on new patrol boats for Vietnam as well as a refit of its older Petya-class warships with modern equipment.

Ironically, the biggest challenge to the Brahmos sale has come from joint developer Russia itself that has similar missiles to offer. Russia, which has seen its international market for arms shrink with growing competition from players like China, has Vietnam as one of its major customers for military equipment.

It is learnt that Hanoi has been in talks with Russia’s NPO Mashinostroyeniya, which makes similar supersonic cruise missiles for the export market, including the Yakhont that can be used for shore defence systems.

While pricing could be one consideration — a direct purchase from Russia could turn out to be cheaper — Vietnam is also looking at some technology transfer that may turn the matter in Moscow’s favour. Besides, Brahmos is marketed by a government-controlled corporation, limiting Indian ability to incentivise sales.

As has been reported, India will weaponise two Petya-class frigates of the Vietnamese Navy to make them fit for an anti-submarine role. The Russian origin frigates are getting new sonar system, torpedo launchers and a modern fire control system.

Vietnam will also get 10 new patrol boats from India as part of an earlier $100 million line of credit. Besides, talks are also on for the high-speed heavy weight ‘Varunastra’ torpedo that has been developed by India.
2 posted on 09/01/2017 9:38:00 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (dead parakeet + lost fishing gear = freep all day)
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In all honesty, I can’t blame China for not liking this.

When push comes to shove though, China brought this on itself with it’s South China Sea subterfuge.

China is woefully ignorant if it thinks it’s South China Sea capers aren’t going to cost it sooner or later.

The other nations in the region, and the United States and India aren’t too happy with China playing a forceful hand.


3 posted on 09/01/2017 9:42:29 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Exempting Trump and his team, our media and government have adopted the Zoolander management style.)
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I certainly hope so.


4 posted on 09/01/2017 9:51:24 PM PDT by ThanhPhero
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Vietnam and China are historic enemies. There is no love lost between. They’re the equivalent of the British-French rivalry up until WWI.


5 posted on 09/01/2017 9:51:50 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (We're right, you're wrong - that's the end of the argument.)
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Has India Secretly Supplied Vietnam with 6,000-pound Supersonic Missiles?

I sincerely hope so. If we can't arm China's neighbors against China, they can arm each other.
6 posted on 09/01/2017 10:09:13 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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China shouldn’t have pissed off India with their South China Sea antics and their provocations in Doklam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_China%E2%80%93India_border_standoff


7 posted on 09/01/2017 11:19:44 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

It seems like a lot of countries in east Asia are historically enemies with China.


8 posted on 09/02/2017 2:51:58 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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“China is woefully ignorant if it thinks it’s South China Sea capers aren’t going to cost it sooner or later.”

I think China moved forcefully and quickly because Obama demonstrated he was not going to do anything to stop them. This upset the entire region and probably everybody in the area started some sort of program or effort to counter China. Now that Trump is in office China will play nicer. It is unlikely they will, for example, actually attack Vietnam’s oil rigs. They might use sabotage, but probably nothing that can be traced to them. Note for future presidents; act weak, get trampled.


9 posted on 09/02/2017 2:52:32 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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“The other nations in the region, and the United States and India aren’t too happy with China playing a forceful hand.”

It is not that China is playing a forceful hand. If it were about an incontestable claim in legitimate Chinese interests, no one would dispute a Chinese right to be forceful about it.

The problem is the “forceful hand” is being played over the very disputable spurious area drawn by China’s “nine dash line” that China claims as her territory in the South China Sea.

It does not come from any history of China’s occupation or administration of most of the islands, shoals and reefs within the “nine dash line”. That outline is the result of centuries of spurious, never acted on, claims of Chinese emperors. Chinese seafarers would return to China with tales of places they had been. The emperors administration would work with the seafarers to determine just where they had been. And sometimes, as a result, they’d put another pin on a map marking the Emperor’s claim to the place the seafarers had been. And that was 90% of all it was - marks on the Emperors maps making claims of Emperors and those pins on the maps were most all the activity that the claim had.

One reef within the “nine dash line” is less than 90 miles from the coast of Malaysia and more than 1,000 miles from any point of land of China.

It is all of THAT, that is wrong with what China is doing. Were it not for that, were it for some legitimate interest of China, her showing a “forceful hand” would be understood.


10 posted on 09/02/2017 7:20:02 AM PDT by Wuli
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yup and don’t forget india/china border territory skirmishes.


11 posted on 09/02/2017 10:50:46 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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I agree, but then it wouldn’t necessarily be a forceful hand.

It would simply be within their purview.


12 posted on 09/02/2017 11:00:24 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Exempting Trump and his team, our media and government have adopted the Zoolander management style.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Yes indeed...


13 posted on 09/02/2017 11:03:17 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Exempting Trump and his team, our media and government have adopted the Zoolander management style.)
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