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Inside the NYC schools critics call ‘failure factories’
NYP ^ | September 2, 2017 | Susan Edelman

Posted on 09/03/2017 9:26:21 AM PDT by george76

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To: george76

That the City doesn’t give full scholarships for as many kids to the Success Academies as want to attend is simply criminal.

And yes, this is Democrat-controlled criminality. (Though Eva M. herself is a Democrat with some regrettable excesses along the predictable party lines as well.)


21 posted on 09/03/2017 10:53:53 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: george76

Highly educated,freethinking people with free will and love of country would not vote Democrat and see that Liberalism is slavery. The schools have to be dysfunctional to build the union wealth and sowing a endless demographic of Democrat voter and welfare recipient.


22 posted on 09/03/2017 11:17:12 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: married21; umgud; independentmind; All

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Catholic schools have been successful with kids from chaotic backgrounds anyway, by stressing confidence in childrens’ potential, and high standards.
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I see your problem right THERE: govt skools don’t have no standards /s

How could you, when one is REQUIRED to house every miscreant, thug, disruptive, abuser and dip-shit w/ no recourse??

Were schooling paid by those utilizing the service (vis a vie college\etc.), I’d damn sure guarantee the rates would be going up.

When ANY ONE needs to sign a check for the year (even 1/2) and little Johnny/Jane were expelled w/o refund or receives sh!tty teaching/grades, you’re damn sure the signer is going to worry about the quality/$$$/discipline.

Else, nobody gives a crap, unless it’s THEIR ‘special little angel’, since it’s FREE.


23 posted on 09/03/2017 11:51:37 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: george76
He faulted “DOE policy” for doing little to integrate the schools.

Are these people white supremacists? They are tacitly saying that that having more white (or Asian) children are inherently better for a school. Sprinkle some magic white powder on your school and watch it thrive!

24 posted on 09/03/2017 11:55:50 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Leaning Right
But 26 percent of kids at Sojourner are homeless, compared with 7 percent at Success Academy.

Can you explain how school bureaucrats actually define "homeless?" Its a comment which one sees more and more in saccharine news articles about public schooling, and as one would expect, the quoted number only goes up over time. I assume also its in the interest of the public school bureaucracy to make a crisis of this as well.

25 posted on 09/03/2017 11:59:07 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: EinNYC

To some degree it’s the curriculum, add in crappy instruction methods, and then add ineducable students, and even dumber parents from the turd world, blacks, and other miscreants, throw in diversity, inclusion, and tolerance, you end up with a toxic mix which produces more poorly educated parents, and it is a helix to the bottom.

Nobody in their right mind sends their kids to city schools.

A glimmering example is the urban/suburban program where I live. They take the best/motivated kids from the city schools and then have them come to nice lily white suburban schools. Which is fine for them.

The irony which is lost on these people is that while THEIR kids willingly come to MY schools, My kids are not willing to go the other direction into the city schools because they are all crappy.


26 posted on 09/03/2017 12:40:30 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Life is about ass, you're either covering, hauling, laughing, kicking, kissing, or behaving like one)
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To: umgud
I seem to recall seeing a report on the magnet programs, and the only way to get into one of these schools is through a lottery. As I recall, there are hundreds of applications for every available seat in this schools.

The dems and unions need to keep children from being educated, so there will be plenty of uneducated adults to guarantee their careers.

Mark

27 posted on 09/03/2017 7:47:58 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: MarkL

I agree about the dem’s motives.


28 posted on 09/03/2017 7:57:09 PM PDT by umgud
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To: george76

Failure factories are the inevitable consequence of edufacturing at all levels. All courtesy of government funding.


29 posted on 09/04/2017 7:11:12 AM PDT by mywholebodyisaweapon (Thank God for President Trump.)
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Detroit Public Schools: 93% Not Proficient in Reading; 96% Not Proficient in Math.

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/detroit-public-schools-93-not-proficient-reading-96-not-proficient


30 posted on 09/04/2017 7:44:59 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: LydiaLong

“And by beating the stupid out of students with a 3 foot ruler.”

Which is a good thing to do. We need to bring back corporeal punishment.


31 posted on 09/04/2017 8:33:15 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: george76

Ouch!


32 posted on 09/04/2017 8:38:41 AM PDT by mywholebodyisaweapon (Thank God for President Trump.)
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To: george76

Education in NYC is a lot less bad than people make it out, and head and shoulders above any other large city’s system.

There are a significant number of good neighborhood zoned schools and a HUGE parallel system of parent-choice, charter schools, gifted-and-talented (and often test- or portfolio-selected). The public system has an effective annex in the relatively inexpensive Catholic school network and in the well-coordinated system of recruiting and scholarships for non-parochial private schools for the most talented poorer kids. (Admittedly, the latter is driven less by a desire to help poor kids than to increase the minority cohort in the independent schools, but there really aren’t any poor white kids left in NYC so it’s a distinction without much difference.)

The really terrible schools, like the ones pointed out in the article, are the dumping grounds for the least-engaged and -responsible parents and the most incorrigible of children. It’s sad to say, but concentrating them in those places actually makes the rest of the schools better.


33 posted on 09/08/2017 5:53:36 AM PDT by only1percent ( who)
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