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California Today: A Proposal to Split California Into Three (YES!)
NY Times ^ | 8/30/17 | Mike McPhate

Posted on 09/04/2017 8:31:29 AM PDT by Libloather

In contrast to the so-called Calexit movement, which aspires to secession, these proponents see California’s salvation in greater local autonomy within the union.

A few years ago, a bid to create six states out of California drew wide media attention but ultimately fizzled.

Now, the architect of that effort, a tech billionaire named Timothy C. Draper, is back with another idea: three Californias. He submitted paperwork that would put the question before voters in 2018.

(Excerpt) Read more at mobile.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: caleavefornia; calexit; california; cher; newcalifornia; secession; secessionists; split; timdraper; yescalifornia
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To: SandyInSeattle

Water and debt, maybe electricity too. Nothing will occur unless the various government elements can agree on those types of details and it would also bring the fundamental instability of California’s governing system into the light.


21 posted on 09/04/2017 9:18:08 AM PDT by jz638
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To: Libloather

This map is often an eye opener for people wno are not familiar with California politics.

22 posted on 09/04/2017 9:21:01 AM PDT by concentric circles
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Yeah, northern California would be just as red as Oregon and Washington.


23 posted on 09/04/2017 9:30:32 AM PDT by Delta 21 (AntiFa and BLM should be on the United States list of Terrorist Organizations)
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To: Libloather
I would make 4 states....Coastal California is one state La to Marin County. Southern California San Diego to Palm Springs and the Central Valley, Jefferson would​ be northeastern California and Yosemite would be Sierra Nevada counties...
24 posted on 09/04/2017 9:32:07 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is DEPLORABLE :-))
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To: Libloather

Is this just a gerrymandered option designed to give the Dems four more senate seats, but still keep all the electoral votes for President?


25 posted on 09/04/2017 9:32:19 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Libloather

In the interim, create a Constitutional Amendment that prohibits any jurisdiction from controlling any more that 5% of the electoral vote. Thus Cali and other most populous states would have do divide up for Presidential elections.


26 posted on 09/04/2017 9:47:50 AM PDT by Thom Pain (They are invaders! Not aliens/immigrants.)
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To: palmer

Thanks.

Two states then: Jefferson and the rest is left wing Cal/Mexico!


27 posted on 09/04/2017 9:50:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Did voting for Trump for President, make 62+ million of us into Deplorable Racists/Nazis? NO! NADA!)
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To: Libloather

BINGO


28 posted on 09/04/2017 9:52:16 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ( Christian is as Christian does mt-h)
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To: kosciusko51

“This plan sounds like 3 smaller blue states instead of one large blue state, giving the dems 4 more senators. No thanks.!

Right no thank you.

Go for a Cal Exit with the new state of Jefferson.

Then, we would gain 4 $inators, and the libs would lose 2 $inators and about 20 Congre$$its.


29 posted on 09/04/2017 9:54:26 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Did voting for Trump for President, make 62+ million of us into Deplorable Racists/Nazis? NO! NADA!)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

That would be only temporary as libs would soon move out of the hellhole states created by them and into the comparatively decent red states. They would then proceed to turn them into blue states and more Dem U.S. Senators.


30 posted on 09/04/2017 10:13:52 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Libloather

Absolutely not. California already has two worthless Democrat senators. No reason in the world for them to have four more.


31 posted on 09/04/2017 10:16:06 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Hitlers Mein Kampf, translated into Arabic, is "My Jihad")
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To: Libloather

6 would be better, but 3 is good if the map is drawn correctly. One loony bin from LA to SF, one SoCal for Orange, SD, Riverside and San Berdu, and one for the north and central. Libs would never agree to that, though.


32 posted on 09/04/2017 10:26:07 AM PDT by Defiant (It's not antifa, it's actually antifafa. Antifa Fascists.)
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To: Libloather

That division would be a total disaster for conservatives. Instead of 1 ultra liberal states you would have three.


33 posted on 09/04/2017 10:30:02 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd; All

You and others would be surprised. Take a look at a map of California red counties. 2/3 are red. Like most states, NY, IL, CT... the dense population centers are liberal.


34 posted on 09/04/2017 10:31:48 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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Related... Something that most folks fail to consider when calling for jettisoning the entire state to Mexico:

http://www.hcdmag.com/military-bases-california/

35 posted on 09/04/2017 10:38:20 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: Libloather

I bet the libs would indeed love to do this. It would be three blue states. If you want to carve a red state out of California it would basically be Northern California excluding the Bay Area and Sacramento, and then down the Sierras into far eastern California. In theory the Central Valley is red, but that probably will only last until the next amnesty.


36 posted on 09/04/2017 10:53:50 AM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: Libloather

The rats would gain more senators than we would.


37 posted on 09/04/2017 10:55:34 AM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: Libloather

The real split in the state is coastal versus inland.

The inland North (sparsely populated to be sure) wouldn't much like to be coupled to San Francisco.

Grouping Los Angeles with the coastal counties to the north and separating it from the rest of Southern California also looks senseless.

But it's not going to happen.

38 posted on 09/04/2017 11:03:04 AM PDT by x
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
This idea is only good if it gives a true voice to the people of inland California, who are as red as those of Texas.

Maybe a little exaggeration there? The most Republican counties are those with the fewest people. And most of the counties Trump carried didn't have anything like the margins he had in rural Texas.

But California isn't going to be cut up unless somebody can find two new Republican states somewhere. Even then, DC and PR are at the front of the line for new Democrat states.

FWIW: Somebody's idea of the nine regions of California.

39 posted on 09/04/2017 11:15:27 AM PDT by x
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To: Libloather

How many Senators do you want California to have?


40 posted on 09/04/2017 11:20:50 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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