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Hurricane Irma and Climate Change: Al Gore Warned Us
yahoo ^ | September 8, 2017 | Tufayel Ahmed Newsweek

Posted on 09/08/2017 7:59:08 PM PDT by mdittmar

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To: oblomov

Nice and thanks.


41 posted on 09/08/2017 10:10:54 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: tbw2
They are asking the questions so they can report “a majority of people think it is due to climate change”

This may come as a shock to many Snowflake science "posers"; but real scientists don't give a crap about "public opinion". Scientists care about data, and what the data shows. And data means REAL DATA, not manipulating data, not cherry picking only the data that supports your side.

That's why this is a hoax; they cannot explain the data, they must lie, distort the truth, intimidate and destroy data to sell only one side. Science stands on its own, just ask Einstein, he didn't need an opinion poll to push Relatively. The Science sold itself.

42 posted on 09/08/2017 10:12:49 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: Hodar
"Scientists care about data, and what the data shows."

Scientists also care about controlled experiments which allow one to achieve high confidence levels regarding outcomes. Such is not really possible when it comes to global climate over millions of years.

One natural experiment which has occurred, however, is the end of the last ice age. Something significantly warmed the earth and it wasn't the exhaust from SUVs.

Another natural experiment which occurred was the disappearance of higher concentrations of CO2 than we are presently experiencing. Just where did that CO2 go and why didn't it cause the earth to warm irreversibly as suggested by Al Gore?

Yet a third natural experiment occurred when the last ice age began. Something entirely independent of mankind cause the earth to cool sufficiently to cover many parts of the earth with layers of ice MILES thick. What was it?

When you really look at the situation you realize that we know next to NOTHING about what causes climate change. And yet we know that the climate is capable of changing much more dramatically than anyone alive today has ever seen.

43 posted on 09/08/2017 10:39:03 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: Hodar

The Climate Change hoax is all about getting money from government grants. These scammers found it easy to dupe the U.S. Government with their fairy tale.

Speaking of fairies, that Tufayel Ahmed looks like a fairy to me.


44 posted on 09/08/2017 10:40:53 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental illness: A totalitarian psyche.)
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To: mdittmar

Okay. Let me predict there will be hurricanes in the future. Now give me 200 million dollars like al gore got for telling his whopper of a lie.


45 posted on 09/08/2017 10:53:24 PM PDT by Boomer (The term "RINO" is now being replaced with "Socialist Republicans". Oh; the irony!)
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To: mdittmar

>>>The back-to-back disasters may not be directly caused by climate change, but the intensification of global warming certainly played a factor, scientists say<<

Name the Scientists.

As for me, I can’t understand how this happened since CA has Regulated Cow flatulence for the past two years. #;^)


46 posted on 09/08/2017 11:05:02 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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To: beethovenfan
If we put zero CO2 into the atmosphere for 50 years, nothing would change. We will still get nasty storms, just as we always did in the past.

47 posted on 09/09/2017 2:39:20 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill: Antifa, SPLC, CNN, ESPN, NFL, NPR, TWITTER, FACEBOOK)
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To: mdittmar

No hurricanes for 5 years, we are due for a few


48 posted on 09/09/2017 2:44:26 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have aklways been cowboys)
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To: Sasparilla
You’ve never heard of the Newsweek family from Jeddah, Saudi Arabia?

Yes, the family's real name is "Achwiqq" but Tufayel Americanized it when he moved into the civilized world.

49 posted on 09/09/2017 2:46:25 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill: Antifa, SPLC, CNN, ESPN, NFL, NPR, TWITTER, FACEBOOK)
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To: mdittmar

“Al Gore Warned Us”

Algore’s warning serves as a warning to me that he’s full of shit.


50 posted on 09/09/2017 4:23:16 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: mdittmar

We don’t where Irma will hit in 24 hours time, but we are certain that man made climate change caused it.


51 posted on 09/09/2017 4:28:17 AM PDT by IamConservative (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: mdittmar

When a chicken little liberal tells you “we” just have to do something!!!. Like carbon tax, or elimination of cheap energy,,,.. remind that liberal that they don’t have to wait for legislation we all do not agree on. Practice what you preach!

If it really is so important and dire that we reduce carbon,, then make those tough personal lifestyle changes by forgoing the modern efficient lifestyle conveniences, like air conditioning, air travel, cars and so on.

If they really believe that global warming is an issue then PROVE IT! Lead by example! (But even Al gore can’t even take his own advice evidently. That is for us peon serfs to endure and suffer through)


52 posted on 09/09/2017 4:57:06 AM PDT by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abramsp)
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To: mdittmar

Well if we paid ourselves for carbon credits then it would have been okay.


53 posted on 09/09/2017 5:18:51 AM PDT by okie 54
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To: Right Wing Assault

...and CO2 would increase anyway due to NATURAL CAUSES.


54 posted on 09/09/2017 8:27:44 AM PDT by beethovenfan (I always try to maximize my carbon footprint.)
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To: Bob434

My son is in middle school. They have had climate change lessons in every class on a regular basis. For example, having to write a paper for PE on how climate change is increased the risk of heat stroke.


55 posted on 09/09/2017 8:38:02 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: mdittmar

So Al Gore warned that there would be hurricanes? Well golly gee,don’t know what we would have done without him! Thats almost as Important as him inventing the internet and discovering ice in Antarctica!
Now maybe he has a remedy for Un over there in North Korea,come on Al enlighten us Neanderthals


56 posted on 09/09/2017 12:10:13 PM PDT by ballplayer (hvexx NKK c bmytit II iyijjhihhiyyiyiyi it iyiiy II i hi jiihi ty yhiiyihiijhijjyjiyjiiijyuiiijihyii)
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To: tbw2

it’s absolutely sick TBW- it is brainwashing- plain and simple-


57 posted on 09/09/2017 9:05:14 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434

Schools teach that it IS man-made, due to industrialization.
Earth Day and other days of the year, the entire school curriculum dedicates to saving the Earth, climate change lectures among others.
My son last year how he had to write a paper on how climate change makes it hotter, raising the risk of heat stroke, on top of something similar for every other class.


58 posted on 09/09/2017 9:31:58 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Wuli
The inconvenient truth is that prior to 2017, the U.S. had gone 10-12 years since a cat 4-5 hurricane made landfall here. Where was THAT inconvenient truth during those years when we had a literal hurricane drought, when, we were told such storms were getting “more frequent” and they had actually became less frequent. Now with mother nature sort of playing “catch up” it’s again to every storm “proving” the climate political agenda of “more frequent storms”, when in fact, anything in a single year does not substantiate “more frequent” particularly against the backdrop of the drought in extreme hurricanes we had the last decade.

The inconvenient question, while in the past we also saw:


The 1780 Atlantic hurricane season ran through the summer and fall in 1780. The 1780 season was extraordinarily destructive, and was the deadliest Atlantic hurricane season in recorded history with over 28,000 deaths. Four different hurricanes, one in June and three in October, caused at least 1,000 deaths each;[1][2] this event has never been repeated and only in the 1893 and 2005 seasons were there two such hurricanes.[3] The season also had the deadliest Atlantic hurricane of all time, since known as the Great Hurricane of 1780.

Landfalling storms affected the Lesser Antilles, Puerto Rico, the Dominican Republic, Jamaica, Cuba, Bermuda, Louisiana, Georgia, Florida, and the New England states.

San Antonio Hurricane

The San Antonio Hurricane,[5] also known as the St. Lucia Hurricane. On June 13, a hurricane "caused deaths and losses" on Puerto Rico, after having also struck St. Lucia, where it killed around 4,000 to 5,000.[4][6] It later went on to the Dominican Republic.[5]

Louisiana Hurricane

New Orleans experienced a powerful hurricane on August 24, with winds gusting over 160 mph completely destroying 39 of the 43 buildings in Grand Isle, Louisiana then the eye passing over New Orleans that night, severely damaging structures in what is now known as the French Quarter, causing harvest-ruining crop damage, severe flooding, and tornadoes. This was from an entry from Count de Lafrenière's diary. It killed around 25 people.[6]

St. Kitts Tropical Storm

On August 25, St. Kitts in the Leeward Islands was struck by a storm.[4]

Savanna-la-Mar Hurricane

A strong storm formed in the southern Caribbean Sea on October 1. Early on, it sunk the British transport ship Monarch, killing several hundred Spanish prisoners and the ship's entire crew. The hurricane began to move northwest towards Jamaica, where it destroyed the port of Savanna-la-Mar on October 3. Many of the town's residents gathered at the coast to spectate, and 20 foot surge engulfed the onlookers, docked ships, and many of the town's buildings. In the nearby port village of Lucea, 400 people and all but two structures perished, with 360 people also killed in the nearby town of Montego Bay. It would go on to sink the British frigate Phoenix (killing 200 of it crew) and ships-of-the-line Victor, Barbadoes, and Scarborough and crippled many others. It continued its direction, and hit Cuba on October 4, followed by a pass over the Bahamas.[6] By some estimates, the storm caused 3,000 deaths.[1][2]

The Great Hurricane

Main article: Great Hurricane of 1780

The second hurricane of October 1780 is still referred to as "The Great Hurricane" in some places. Its official name, and how it is referred to by most Antillians is "San Calixto Hurricane" and it is also called the "Great Hurricane of the Antilles".[5] The storm had winds of 135 miles per hour or greater and forward motion speed of less than 10 miles per hour.[6] Causing a record 22,000 deaths in the eastern Caribbean Sea, it rates as the all-time deadliest hurricane in the Atlantic. "Further, the historical importance of the storm was heightened by the presence of the powerful fleets of Britain and France, both maneuvering on nearby islands to strike blows at each other's rich possessions in the Antilles."[4]

The storm formed before or on October 10. It devastated the island of Barbados on October 10 with 200+ mph wind gusts,[7] killing 4,300 and creating an economic depression. St. Vincent suffered a 20-foot (6 meter) storm surge. The storm went on to kill 6,000 people on the island of St. Lucia and 9,000 on Martinique, with its capital city, St. Pierre, becoming almost completely demolished. It later moved northwestward toward the island of St. Eustatius, killing 4,000 to 5,000 and devastating Puerto Rico, Dominique, and Bermuda. The storm dissipated on or after October 18.[1]

Solano's Hurricane

A powerful hurricane in the Eastern Gulf of Mexico struck a Spanish war fleet of 64 vessels under José Solano en route from Havana, Cuba to attack Pensacola, Florida, then the capital of British West Florida. The ships had 4,000 men aboard under the military command of Bernardo de Gálvez, and 2,000 died.[8] The slow-moving hurricane, known to history as "Solano's hurricane", was first noted near Jamaica on October 15. Progressing northwestwards it likely crossed the western end of Cuba, before shifting northeastwards to Apalachee Bay. It struck Solano's fleet on October 20. According to Emanuel (2005), it dissipated somewhere over the southeastern United States around October 22,[1] but Chenoweth (2006) argues that it crossed the U.S. and finally dissipated over the North Atlantic on October 26.[9] It has likely been detected in tree-ring isotope records from Valdosta, Georgia.[10]

Lesser Antilles Hurricane

In late October, a tropical cyclone struck Barbados and then St. Lucia on October 23.[4][6]

New England Hurricane

Around November 17, a tropical cyclone moved up the east coast of the United States disrupting the British blockade of the New England states. It is unknown whether this storm was fully tropical.[6]

Also,

Hurricane Camille was the second-most intense tropical cyclone to strike the United States on record. The most intense storm of the 1969 Atlantic hurricane season, Camille formed as a tropical depression on August 14 south of Cuba from a long-tracked tropical wave. Located in a favorable environment for strengthening, the storm quickly intensified into a Category 2 hurricane before striking the western part of the nation on August 15. Emerging into the Gulf of Mexico, Camille underwent another period of rapid intensification and became a Category 5 hurricane the next day as it moved northward towards the LouisianaMississippi region.

Despite weakening slightly on August 17, the hurricane quickly re-intensified back to a Category 5 before it made landfall in Waveland, Mississippi early on August 18 with a pressure of 900 mbar (26.58 inHg). This was the second-lowest pressure recorded for a U.S. landfall; only the 1935 Labor Day hurricane had a lower pressure at landfall. As Camille pushed inland, it quickly weakened and was a tropical depression by the time it was over the Ohio Valley. Once it emerged offshore, it was able to restrengthen to a strong tropical storm, before it became extratropical, being absorbed by a cold front over the North Atlantic on August 22.

Maximum wind speeds near the coastline were estimated to have been about 175 mph (280 km/h) with a pressure of 900 mbar (hPa; 26.58 inHg).[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Camille

A few more notable cyclones/hurricanes:

Hurricane Wilma was the most intense tropical cyclone ever recorded in the Atlantic basin, as well as the most intense recorded in the western hemisphere until Hurricane Patricia in 2015. Part of the record-breaking 2005 Atlantic hurricane season, which included three of the top ten most intense Atlantic hurricanes ever (along with #4 Rita and #7 Katrina), Wilma was the twenty-second storm, thirteenth hurricane, sixth major hurricane, fourth Category 5 hurricane, and second-most destructive hurricane of the 2005 season. A tropical depression formed in the Caribbean Sea near Jamaica on October 15, headed westward, and two days later intensified into a tropical storm which turned abruptly southward and was named Wilma. Wilma continued to strengthen, and eventually became a hurricane on October 18. Shortly thereafter, explosive intensification occurred, and in only 24 hours, Wilma became a Category 5 hurricane with wind speeds of 185 miles per hour (298 km/h).

Wilma was the most recent major hurricane to make landfall in the contiguous United States until Hurricane Harvey made landfall in southern Texas on August 26, 2017, ending a record length of time – slightly over 11 years and 10 months – without any major hurricanes making landfall in the United States. Wilma was also the last hurricane to strike the state of Florida until Hurricane Hermine did so nearly 11 years later in 2016, another record. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Wilma

Hurricane Patricia was the second-most intense tropical cyclone on record worldwide, behind Typhoon Tip in 1979, with a minimum atmospheric pressure of 872 mbar (hPa; 25.75 inHg).[1] Originating from a sprawling disturbance near the Gulf of Tehuantepec, south of Mexico, in mid-October 2015, Patricia was first classified a tropical depression on October 20. Initial development was slow, with only modest strengthening within the first day of its classification. The system later became a tropical storm and was named Patricia, the twenty-fourth named storm of the annual hurricane season. Exceptionally favorable environmental conditions fueled explosive intensification on October 22. A well-defined eye developed within an intense central dense overcast and Patricia grew from a tropical storm to a Category 5 hurricane in just 24 hours—a near-record pace. On October 23, the hurricane achieved its record peak intensity with maximum sustained winds of 215 mph (345 km/h).[nb 1][nb 2] This made it the most intense tropical cyclone on record in the Western Hemisphere, and the strongest globally in terms of 1-minute maximum sustained winds.

Typhoon Tip, known in the Philippines as Typhoon Warling, was the largest and most intense tropical cyclone ever recorded. The nineteenth storm and twelfth typhoon of the 1979 Pacific typhoon season, Tip developed out of a disturbance from the monsoon trough on October 4 near Pohnpei. Initially, a tropical storm to the northwest hindered the development and motion of Tip, though after it tracked farther north Tip was able to intensify. After passing Guam, Tip rapidly intensified and reached peak winds of 305 km/h (190 mph)[nb 1] and a worldwide record-low sea-level pressure of 870 mbar (870.0 hPa; 25.69 inHg) on October 12. At its peak strength, it was also the largest tropical cyclone on record with a wind diameter of 2,220 km (1,380 mi). Tip slowly weakened as it continued west-northwestward and later turned to the northeast in response to an approaching trough.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoon_Tip

Hurricane Gilbert was an extremely powerful tropical cyclone that formed during the 1988 Atlantic hurricane season that peaked at Category 5 strength and brought widespread destruction to the Caribbean and the Gulf of Mexico. It was the most intense hurricane ever observed in the Atlantic basin, until Hurricane Wilma surpassed it during 2005. Gilbert was also one of the largest tropical cyclones ever observed in the Atlantic basin. At one point, its tropical storm-force winds measured 575 mi (925 km) in diameter. In addition, Gilbert was the most intense tropical cyclone in recorded history to strike Mexico.[1]

Severe Tropical Cyclone Olivia was a powerful cyclone that produced the highest non-tornadic winds on record on Barrow Island, 408 kilometres per hour (254 mph), breaking the record of 372 km/h (231 mph) on Mount Washington in the United States in April 1934. The 13th named storm of the 1995–96 Australian region cyclone season, Olivia formed on 3 April 1996 to the north of Australia's Northern Territory. The storm moved generally to the southwest, gradually intensifying off Western Australia. On 8 April, Olivia intensified into a severe tropical cyclone and subsequently turned more to the south, steered by a passing trough. On 10 April, Olivia produced the worldwide record strongest gust on Barrow Island, and on the same day the cyclone made landfall near Varanus Island. The storm quickly weakened over land, dissipating over the Great Australian Bight on 12 April.

The 1935 Labor Day Hurricane was the most intense hurricane to make landfall in the United States on record, as well as the third-most intense Atlantic hurricane ever.[1] The second tropical cyclone, second hurricane, and second major hurricane of the 1935 Atlantic hurricane season, the Labor Day Hurricane was the first of three Category 5 hurricanes to strike the United States at that intensity during the 20th century (the other two being 1969's Hurricane Camille and 1992's Hurricane Andrew). After forming as a weak tropical storm east of the Bahamas on August 29, it slowly proceeded westward and became a hurricane on September 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1935_Labor_Day_hurricane

Hurricane Mitch was the second deadliest Atlantic hurricane on record. The storm was the thirteenth tropical storm, ninth hurricane, and third major hurricane of the 1998 hurricane season. Along with Hurricane Georges, Mitch was the most notable hurricane in the season. At the time, Hurricane Mitch was the strongest Atlantic hurricane observed in the month of October, though it has since been surpassed by Hurricane Wilma of the 2005 season. The hurricane matched the fourth most intense Atlantic hurricane on record (it has since dropped to seventh). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Mitch

The Great Galveston Hurricane[1], known regionally as the Great Storm of 1900 [2][3][4], was a Category 4 storm, with winds of up to 145 mph (233 km/h), which made landfall on September 8, 1900, in Galveston, Texas, in the United States. It killed 6,000 to 12,000 people, making it the deadliest natural disaster in U.S. history. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1900_Galveston_hurricane

The 1886 Indianola Hurricane destroyed the town of Indianola, Texas and as such had a significant impact on the history and economic development of Texas.[1] It was the fifth hurricane of the 1886 Atlantic hurricane season and one of the most intense hurricanes ever to hit the United States. ..As it approached the coast of Texas, it intensified to an 150 mph (240 km/h) Category 4 hurricane. At the time, it was tied for the strongest hurricane ever recorded (the first reported, and confirmed, Category 5 hurricane would be in 1928). On August 19, winds increased in Indianola, and, on August 20, it made landfall as a catastrophic Category 4 hurricane. Pressure at landfall is estimated to be 925 mbar, which would make it the fifth strongest hurricane known to have hit the United States, and by winds, it is tied for the fourth most powerful hurricane to hit the U.S. mainland. The hurricane moved inland and eventually dissipated on August 21 in northeast Texas. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1886_Indianola_hurricane

The 1933 Atlantic hurricane season was the second most active Atlantic hurricane season on record, with 20 storms forming in the northwest Atlantic Ocean. The season ran through the summer and the first half of fall in 1933, with activity as early as May and as late as November. A tropical cyclone was active for all but 13 days from June 28 to October 7. The year was surpassed in total number of tropical cyclones by the 2005 season, which broke the record with 28 storms. Tropical cyclones that did not approach populated areas or shipping lanes, especially if they were relatively weak and of short duration, may have remained undetected. Https:/ /en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1933_Atlantic_hurricane_season

The 1878 Atlantic hurricane season lasted from the summer through much of the fall. Records show that 1878 featured a relatively active hurricane season. A total of twelve storms were observed during the year. There were two tropical storms, eight hurricanes and two major hurricanes (Category 3+). However, in the absence of modern satellite and other remote-sensing technologies, only storms that affected populated land areas or encountered ships at sea were recorded, so the actual total could be higher. An undercount bias of zero to six tropical cyclones per year between 1851 and 1885 and zero to four per year between 1886 and 1910 has been estimated.[1] Of the known 1878 cyclones, both Hurricane Three and Hurricane Four were first documented in 1995 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1878_Atlantic_hurricane_season

The 1893 Atlantic hurricane season ran through the summer and the first half of fall in 1893. The 1893 season was fairly active, with 12 tropical storms forming, 10 of which became hurricanes. Of those, 5 became major hurricanes. This season proved to be a very deadly season, with two different hurricanes each causing over two thousand (2000) deaths in the United States; at the time, the season was the deadliest in U.S. history. The season was one of two on the record, along with the 1998 Atlantic hurricane season, when 4 Atlantic hurricanes were active on the same day. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1893_Atlantic_hurricane_season


59 posted on 09/10/2017 3:11:12 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + folllow Him)
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To: daniel1212

Ten most intense
Hurricane Patricia, the most intense Pacific hurricane on record
Per lowest central pressure

The apparent increase in recent seasons is spurious; it is due to better estimation and measurement, not an increase in intense storms. That is, until 1988, Pacific hurricanes generally did not have their central pressures measured or estimated from satellite imagery.

Rank Hurricane Year Pressure
1 Patricia 2015 872 mbardouble-dagger
2 Linda 1997 902 mbar*
3 Rick 2009 906 mbar*
4 Kenna 2002 913 mbardouble-dagger
5 Ava 1973 915 mbardagger
Ioke 2006 915 mbar*
7 Marie 2014 918 mbar*
Odile 918 mbardouble-dagger
9 Guillermo 1997 919 mbar*
10 Gilma 1994 920 mbar*

* Estimated from satellite imagery

double-dagger Measured and adjusted

dagger Measured

~ Pressure while East of the International Dateline
Per highest sustained winds

Rank Hurricane Year Winds
1 Patricia 2015 215 mph; 345 km/h
2 Linda 1997 185 mph; 295 km/h
3 Rick 2009 180 mph; 285 km/h
4 Patsy 1959 175 mph; 280 km/h
John 1994 175 mph; 280 km/h
6 Kenna 2002 165 mph; 270 km/h

Strongest landfalls

Rank Hurricane Season

Landfalling Pacific major hurricanes
Intensity is measured solely by wind speed 1 Patricia 2015 150 mph (240 km/h) [90]
2 Madeline 1976 145 mph (230 km/h) [91]
Iniki 1992 145 mph (230 km/h) [44]
4 Unnamed 1957 140 mph (220 km/h) [92]
“Mexico” 1959 140 mph (220 km/h) [92]
Kenna 2002 140 mph (220 km/h) [93]
7 Olivia 1967 125 mph (205 km/h) [92]
Tico 1983 125 mph (205 km/h) [94]
Lane 2006 125 mph (205 km/h) [95]
Odile 2014 125 mph (205 km/h) [96]
11 Kiko 1989 120 mph (195 km/h) [97]
12 Olivia 1975 115 mph (185 km/h) [98]
Liza 1976 115 mph (185 km/h) [91]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pacific_hurricanes#Per_lowest_central_pressure


60 posted on 09/10/2017 3:37:40 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + folllow Him)
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