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‘Winter is coming’: What do climate scientists predict for California?
San Jose Mercury-News ^ | September 12, 2017 | by Steve Scauzillo

Posted on 09/12/2017 10:44:36 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Several climate experts, flummoxed by the failure of a widely predicted El Niño to make a dent in California’s drought during the winter of 2015-16, are saying they are unsure what this winter will bring.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration says December-February in California will be a winter with equal chances of normal, below normal and above normal rain.

“That means they do not know. There is no strong signal,” said Bill Putzert, the expert climatologist from NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, who incorrectly predicted tons of rain from the “Godzilla El Niño” for the 2015-2016 winter.

For this coming winter, however, with no El Niño in sight, he’s making a not-so-bold prediction: It’s going to be either wet or dry.

“Either we slip back into drought or we have a repeat of last winter,” Putzert said.

About the only thing meteorologists interviewed agree on was that the state is getting warmer. Climate change, involving the trapping of heat from the burning of fossil fuels, has raised the average winter temperature in the state 2.5 degrees over the last 100 years, Putzert said.

“Heat waves are more intense. They last longer. That has been measured. We know that California winters are warmer and the snowpack comes later and leaves earlier. That is a trend, not a forecast,” Putzert said.

“We are disturbing the natural system. It is an additional variable,” he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; globalwarming; hoax; marxism; oroville; socialism
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1 posted on 09/12/2017 10:44:36 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration says December-February in California will be a winter with equal chances of normal, below normal and above normal rain.

Nice gig if you can get it. Even better than consultants who borrow your watch, tell you what time it is, and send you the bill for their service.

2 posted on 09/12/2017 10:47:36 AM PDT by rfp1234 (I have already previewed this composition.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Kings will Freeze to Death in their Castles, same as the peasants in their huts.

The White Walkers with their dead horses, packs of pale spiders big as HOUNDS!

3 posted on 09/12/2017 10:48:05 AM PDT by KC_Lion (If you want on First Lady Melania's, Ivanka Trump's or Sarah Palin's Ping Lists, just let me know.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“About the only thing meteorologists interviewed agree on was that the state is getting warmer. Climate change, involving the trapping of heat from the burning of fossil fuels, has raised the average winter temperature in the state 2.5 degrees over the last 100 years, Putzert said.”

I have not the data that supposedly supports the above statement, but the statement itself with the rather outlandish claims on 2.5 degree rise (izzat C or F there, sport?) raises all sorts of red flags for this math/physics educated guy.

Right now, my bet is on large percentages of bull Obama, coupled with the standard journalist’s total inability to comprehend even the most elementary science.


4 posted on 09/12/2017 10:49:01 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Putzert said “send mo money”.


5 posted on 09/12/2017 10:49:09 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (I'm tired of the Cult of Clinton. Wish she would just pass out the Koolaide)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I predict that California will either freeze, burn, will be buried under mudslides and avalanches, or be covered in a blanket of smog.

You know, the usual.


6 posted on 09/12/2017 10:50:07 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it. MAGA!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“equal chances of normal, below normal and above normal rain”? Now, that IS some fancy science talk there.


7 posted on 09/12/2017 10:52:26 AM PDT by JWNM
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Personally, there are more, and hotter, heat waves now in SoCal than when I was a kid, and FAR less rain in the winters. I remember Novembers and Februarys with two or more solid weeks of pouring rain.

The state is definitely warming and drying. But it’s not because of fossil fuels.

And if we had saved any of the great snowpack water from last year, it might have been smart. But no, we need to focus on giving money, goods and services to illegals.


8 posted on 09/12/2017 10:53:29 AM PDT by Yaelle (Leftist trees bear strange fruit...blood on the leaves, blood on the root...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“The snowpack.....leaves earlier.”

Not this year.

They were skiing in California in July.


9 posted on 09/12/2017 10:53:35 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Da Coyote

“About the only thing meteorologists interviewed agree on was that the state is getting warmer. Climate change, involving the trapping of heat from the burning of fossil fuels, has raised the average winter temperature in the state 2.5 degrees over the last 100 years, Putzert said.”

.........
You could get a rise of 2.5 degrees over a century if you had the temperature gage in any downtown major metropolitan area because these concrete jungles are heat sinks. Outside the cities is a different story.


10 posted on 09/12/2017 10:54:01 AM PDT by ckilmer (q e)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; EarthResearcher333

“equal chances of normal, below normal and above normal rain”

For the sake of those living below the Oroville Dam, I hope it’s below normal. The CA DWR will need at least two years if not longer to fix the mess their apparent negligence and malfeasance has created.

BTW, ongoing thread with 4K+ comments so far since last February on this issue that isn’t going away any time soon.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3524221/posts?q=1&;page=4221

Commendations especially to EarthResearcher333 who might have compiled more data and analysis on this than maybe anyone else anywhere. The University of FR rolls on.


11 posted on 09/12/2017 10:54:50 AM PDT by Jim 0216
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For this coming winter, however, with no El Niño in sight, he’s making a not-so-bold prediction: It’s going to be either wet or dry.

Women and minorities hardest hit again? 😀😆😄

12 posted on 09/12/2017 10:56:41 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: factoryrat
I predict that California will either freeze, burn, will be buried under mudslides and avalanches, or be covered in a blanket of smog.

Or all of the above. It depends on how many beans Algore eats.

13 posted on 09/12/2017 10:57:18 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Wait’ these are the same people who can tell me the temp will raise X number of degrees in 100 years but can’t tell us what the upcoming winter will be wet or dry?

Why aren’t they hiding her heads in shame?


14 posted on 09/12/2017 10:58:29 AM PDT by Popman
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2.5 degrees in a century. That's 0.025 degrees in a year. Twenty-five thousandths of a degree. And they're worried about this winter? How would anyone even know the difference?

This is beyond stupid, it's stubborn stupid. The weather will change, to be sure. The climate? Call me in 100 years.

15 posted on 09/12/2017 11:02:12 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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16 posted on 09/12/2017 11:03:00 AM PDT by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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To: Popman

Born and raised in Silverlake (Echo Park), I remember the summer of ‘75 being one of the hottest. These fools have no clue.


17 posted on 09/12/2017 11:05:37 AM PDT by Cosmo105
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To: rfp1234

August in Memphis compared to average August:

2013 -1.4
2014 +0.7
2015 -0.6
2016 +1.5
2017 -3.5

degrees F difference from average.


18 posted on 09/12/2017 11:07:47 AM PDT by Ingtar
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To: Yaelle

Since you were a kid SoCal has become a lot more paved.


19 posted on 09/12/2017 11:10:05 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Yaelle

Since you were a kid SoCal has become a lot more paved.


20 posted on 09/12/2017 11:11:30 AM PDT by pfflier
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