Skip to comments.Politico: Democrats Panicked by Teflon Don
Posted on 09/13/2017 4:50:14 PM PDT by Kaslin
RUSH: There is a story today in The Politico. Teflon Don Confounds Democrats Democrats have attacked the president every which way, but polling and focus groups show none of its working. None of it! In addition, Rasmussen has just come out with a poll. I printed it out here (shuffling paper) and guess what? A majority, most voters Not Trump supporters; theyre in this, but this is a sample of most voters. Most Voters Welcome Trumps Outreach to Congressional Democrats. Now, the conventional wisdom is that Trumps hurting himself, that Trumps base, who are they?
If you believe the media, Trumps base is a bunch of Neanderthals, white supremacist right-wingers. They hate and they despise and theyre dumb and theyre stupid and theyre knuckle-draggers, and they will defend Trump no matter what he does and they are a vast majority of the American population except they cant explain how that group of people elected Trump. But thats what they tell themselves. They lie to themselves about their opponents. They lie to themselves about themselves and their own supporters.
Despite their failure to advance President Trumps agenda, congressional Republicans arent happy about his outreach to Democrats Paul Ryan In fact, it has been learned that Ryan has told people at private fundraisers and private gatherings and this isnt a surprise, folks. At least it didnt surprise me when I ran into it, that Paul Ryan has said that there is no chance for a border wall. Its never gonna happen. That the Republicans are never gonna help Trump do this and of course, these private dinners are where fundraisers are taking place, where donors are, and Ryan was assuring them.
Its not a surprise to us. We know that the Republican Party doesnt want to help Trump advance his agenda. But the Democrats, you know, Chuck and Nancy after their successful powwow with Trump on the debt ceiling, and Trump loved it cause something got done. Trumps a doer. Hes not an ideologue. He liked getting something done. The Republicans are not helping him get anything done. So now he went to working with the Democrats and Rasmussens gone out and polled it.
They have found out 66% of likely U.S. voters say it is good for the country if Trump works with congressional Democrats to advance his agenda. Just 13% think that the bipartisan cooperation i.e., Trump working with Democrats is bad. Twenty-one percent are undecided. Now, likely voters is not a precise sample. You really want registered voters. Likely voters doesnt include people that definitely do vote, and so what they think doesnt matter as much, if theyre only likely to vote.
But you have a pool of registered voters, likely voters, theres more guarantee that that is a better sample. And only 19% here believe the president should continue to rely on congressional Republicans to pass his agenda. This has always been a danger. In my mind, its always been the danger. Trump, because hes not an ideologue meaning he does a lot of things that people like me and conservatives applaud, but hes not one of us. Hes a doer. He will work with people to help get things done. He knows what got him elected.
He knows the wall. He knows repealing and replacing Obamacare, taxes. He knows that stuff. But if hes working with people arent gonna help him get it done, what good are they to him? And thats who the Republicans are. So here come Chuck and Nancy. Chuck and Nancy are willing to help Trump get things done, and Chuck and Nancy are wily. Chuck and Nancy also know that Trumps not an ideologue, and they can see that the Republicans dont want to help Trump because the Republicans are scared to death of being tied to any success that Trump would have.
I know that sounds strange, but dont doubt me. So Chuck and Nancy come along well, mainly Chuck, because I dont think Nancy knows what day it is now. But Chuck brings her along, you know, because shes a leader of the House Democrats. But I dont think Nancy Shes okay. But Chuck brings her along, and Chuck looks at the Republicans. He said, Look, these people are hell-bent on making sure this guy doesnt get anything done, but we know he wants to get things done. Well help him get things done and well help get things done that we want, cause Trump wants things get done. And as long as we approach it right
Now, ergo, were talking about amnesty for the dreamers and DACA. And now we got the White House saying (stammers), Oh, dont dont dont dont dont be silly here. Trumps always supported amnesty. No, not for everybody. The amnesty that hes talked about has been for select few, DACA, DREAMers, kids, this type of thing. But the anger Ill tell you what. When this Rasmussen survey
Well give it some weight. I mean, its as good as any polling unit out there. None of them really have a firm foundation of authoritative accuracy going for them right now, so well deal with this. Sixty-six percent of the American people are fine with Trump reaching out to Democrats. One of the factors here is that Trump really does appear to be Teflon. I mean, no matter what, it just doesnt stick to him. Its what the Democrats said about Reagan, and they hated Reagan for that. No matter what he did, nothing stuck to him.
It looks like Trump is practically the same. And why would that be? Well, you cant figure out the people that voted for Trump. And youve got I dont mean you personally. Talking generically. The people who continually in their minds or in the way they speak make fun of the people that voted for Trump, if you think that Trumps voters are a bunch of hayseed know-nothings who are steeped deep in racism and bigotry and all of the usual cliches that the Democrats throw out, youre underestimating dramatically who they are.
They are people who pay attention and they are fed up with the way Washington has not been functioning or has been, either way, and Trump represents a brand-new fresh start by somebody thats not been tainted by membership in the swamp. And as such there is tremendous hope. There are people in this country who the rule believe that we are on the verge of losing the country as founded.
Thats laughed at, mocked, joked about, but these people that elected Trump believe it, and so they are personally invested in Trump, and they believe that Trump is going to do things that will make things better, and whoever he has to work with to get them done, according to Rasmussen, thats what theyll support. The Republicans are harming themselves in ways here that I dont even think they are aware of.
And the Democrats are too, with these hurricane telethons and this never ending assault on Trump. This Politico story which Im gonna get back to in a jiffy is amazing. It details everything theyve thrown at Trump and how none of it none of it is working. Every Democrat thing thats always worked to destroy Republican opponents in the past, none of it is working! Which you need to ask: Well, why? And, of course, there is an answer, and I will, El Rushbo, have the answer.
RUSH: We start on the phones in Jacksonville, Florida. Hey, Peter. Its great to have you, sir. How are you?
CALLER: Thank you, Rush. Infinite dittos.
RUSH: I appreciate that.
CALLER: Id like to address Hollywood and the music industry. You insult me, you offend me, you mock me, you lie to me, and then you want me to go out and buy your movies, go to your movies, rent your movies, buy your albums? No. No. Not anymore. I stopped going to movies about a year ago. I do not go. I will not darken the door of a theater again. Im fed up with these people. These are Theyre idiots and Im done with em. Im finished with em. They can all go you know where.
RUSH: You know, you may not be the only one. I mean, summertime Hollywood box office has been in the tank. Its been across the board. I dont think Has there been one movie that did okay blockbuster okay while the others didnt? (interruption) Wonder Woman was about it, right, the only one that had any kind of box office? (interruption) The Stephen King movies doing okay? Hes a cult figure, though. But basically Hollywood in the summertime, its dangerously bad, and theyre concerned about it. So youre probably not alone.
CALLER: Well, there are a lot of movies that I would have loved to go see, but Im not gonna give them my hard-earned money and then let insult me and belittle me. Im done with them.
RUSH: Theyve always done this, Peter. Whats new about it, Hollywood featuring a bunch of leftists that are anti-America, anti-conservative, anti-Republican? What is it now thats got you bugged?
CALLER: Its been bugging me for years, but it just dawned on me not too long ago that why am I going to see these movies? These people are making $48 million to make a movie, then they get residuals also from a movie, and they insult me and want me to go give them more money? Im not doing it anymore. No, Im done.
RUSH: Well, I appreciate the call. I know how he feels. This is not anything recent, but when I was younger and more naive, I can remember liking a particularly actor or actress shows or movies they were in and then learning who they really are and what they really think and maybe how dumb they are. It just blew up everything. I had no desire anymore. Its like investing in an athlete who you think is a great guy and a hero and you find out hes a reprobate.
It just takes the wind out of your sails. I know what hes talking about. But there is a blacklist in Hollywood, and these people This is no excuse, but they have to say these things or they have to think this way to work, and anybody that tries to tell you differently is trying to smooth it over, because it really is true. Ive heard it from enough people. I know it. It really is true. Theres a blacklist, and there is an accepted way or a required way to think. Hey, look, its no different than whats happening to people like me outside of groupthink and consensus on climate change.
You have to think this way. If you dont, and youre not gonna get hired. So one of the ways these actors and I dont doubt that its not genuine, but I also dont know how deeply knowledgeable they are about these things. I think its pure emotional. But saying things in public, going on TV, its how they affirm their qualification and status politically with the people who hire and decide to pay people a lot of money. You know, everything has been politicized now, and Hollywood actually has been for a long time.
Now, Ive been trying to get back to this Politico story since the first hour, and its a perfect time to do it now since we have added all of the Hillary news and revelations today. Three things. First, I just saw that Trump is hosting Chuck and Nancy tonight for dinner in the White House. Chuck and Nancy are coming up to talk tax reform. Not Mitch and Paul, but Chuck and Nancy. Remember the Rasmussen report survey.
I have it here in my formerly nicotine-stained fingers. Most Republican voters welcome Trumps outreach to congressional Democrats. Its Rasmussen. I can see this in a sense. We talked about it earlier, but Im just reminding you of it. Now, The Politico story: Teflon Don Confounds Democrats Democrats have attacked the president every which way, but polling and focus groups show that none of it is working. None of it! Trump should have been
I dont think there is a modern American president Nixon, maybe, during the confined period of Watergate. Outside of that, I dont think there is a president, certainly in our lifetimes. I mean, it was brutal back in the days of the Civil War, the journalism. But I dont think theres a president in our lifetimes who has been the subject of a never-ending, 24/7 assault since the day he won his partys nomination, then the election. I dont think anybody has had to go through what Trump has gone through.
Just the daily lies, the distortions, the rumors, the leaks, the untruths, the allegations that his election was illegitimate because of collaboration/collusion with the Russians and Vladimir Putin. I mean, its never ending, and they go with something until it dies and they pick something else up and they go back to the Russians and get distracted. Theres a special prosecutor. Theyve invested everything! Theyve shot everything they have, and hes still sitting there with an approval of 45 to 48%.
They were able to knock George Bushs number down into the thirties with four consecutive years of pounding Bush on the Iraq war. So whats the difference? Why are they not able ? Why is it bouncing off Trump? Why is it not working? Well, theres an answer, I think, but first some of the details in the story. Its written by Edward-Isaac Dovere. Democrats tried attacking Donald Trump as unfit for the presidency. Theyve made the case that hes ineffective, pointing to his failure to sign a single major piece of legislation into law after eight months in the job.
Theyve argued that Trump is using the presidency to enrich himself and that his campaign was in cahoots with Russia. None of it is working. Data from a range of focus groups and internal polls in swing states paint a difficult picture for the Democratic Party heading into the 2018 midterms and 2020 presidential election. But its important. The Democrats, until they read this Actually, in their private moments cloakrooms, when they talk to each they know it isnt working, and I guarantee you theyre befuddled and theyre confused and they dont understand.
Thats why theyre piling on. They think, Maybe were not hitting him hard enough, and they ratchet it up. But in their less-than-lucid moments, they really I think some of them really believe theyre skating now to 2018. I think they believe that they have ruined Trump, and theyve destroyed Trump and his ability to campaign, raise money for other people, other Republicans. They have the ability to lie to themselves and pat themselves on the back.
But the truth of the matter is that none of this and this is their playbook. They have not gone after Trump on policy. Theyve not tried to say that their policies are better, cause they dont have any that they want to publicize. Its been purely personal. Theyve done nothing but try to destroy Trump the man, the human being, the presidency and his career, and his lifes work and his family. I mean, they have gone after everybody. His wife. Even his 13-year-old son.
Data from a range of focus groups and internal polls in swing states paint a difficult picture for the Democratic Party heading into the 2018 midterms and 2020 presidential election. It suggests that Democrats are naive if they believe Trumps historically low approval numbers mean a landslide is coming. The party is defending 10 Senate seats in states that Trump won and needs to flip 24 House seats to take control of that chamber.
The research, conducted by private firms and for Democratic campaign arms, is rarely made public but was described to Politico in interviews with a dozen top operatives whove been analyzing the results coming in. So they wont show the data to Politico, but theyll tell em whats in it, and theyve done so. Anson Kaye, a strategist at media firm GMMB who worked on the Obama and Clinton campaigns, said, If thats the attitude thats driving the Democratic Party, were going to drive right into the ocean. Meaning, if they think theyre headed for a landslide win, they are totally mistaken.
Worse news, they worry: Many of the ideas party leaders have latched onto in an attempt to appeal to their lost voters free college tuition, raising the minimum wage to $15, even Medicare for all test poorly among voters outside the base. The people in these polls and focus groups tend to see those proposals as empty promises, at best. Meaning, they dont believe college is ever gonna really be free, and they dont believe that Medicare is actually gonna be for everybody.
Its not that they dont want those things. Its that they dont believe the Democrats are gonna deliver. Republican voters dont think their party is gonna deliver, either. Pollsters are shocked by how many voters describe themselves as exhausted by the constant chaos surrounding Trump.
Now, remember, these are Democrat polls, Democrat analysts telling Politico what theyre finding, and they are finding that none of their attacks have worked, and, in addition to that, theyre finding the issues that theyre trying to counter Trump with free college, free tuition, Medicare for all, its not working, and theyre tired of what the Democrats are doing! Theyre tired of the daily chaos. Theyre not energized by it.
Now, you might say, But Rush, how do you explain Antifa, Black Lives Matter? Thats not who were talking about here. Those people are irritating everybody. Thats the dirty little secret here. The military wing of the Democrat Party, this army of neer-do-well rioters, theyre ticking off everybody. And the never-ending allegations on Trump. Because there isnt any truth to them.
Its been over a year that they have been alleging the Russians rigged the election. And nobody has been able to produce any evidence. People are worn out. And the pollsters are shocked. They are shocked. [T]hey find that theres strong support for a Congress that provides a check on [Trump] rather than voting for his agenda most of the time. But he is still viewed as an outsider shaking up the system, which people in the various surveys say they like, and which Democrats dont stack up well against.
Now, even though they dont like the chaos surrounding Trump, I want to read this again. The pollsters have found that theres strong support for a Congress that provides a check on [Trump] rather than voting for his agenda most of the time. So thats a little conflicting. If these people like the fact that the Democrats are putting the brakes on Trump, then why do they dislike the chaos? Cause the chaos is part of it.
So thats something you have to weed through into even deeper data that would require psychological analysis to figure that out. But even beyond that, these same people like Trump cause hes an outsider shaking up the system. Believe me, there is a general, what, malaise stronger than malaise about Washington per se. Cause it is. Its a mess. Nothing seems organized. Nothing seems focused and nothing that Washington says theyre gonna fix gets better.
Areas of the country are improving, things are doing well, but not because of what Washington is doing, which, by the way, the real key is things do get better when Washington isnt involved. In focus groups, most participants say theyre still impressed with Trumps business background and tend to give him credit for the improving economy. That shocks them. That shocks the Democrats. It shocks these pollsters.
Now, the poll says, The window is closing, but voters are still inclined to give Trump a chance to succeed. They dont want him thrown out of office. They dont want any of that. But they do believe that his business background is valuable and that the economic upturn is his credit. More than that, no single Democratic attack on the president is sticking. Not Russia, not collusion, not Trump enriching himself, none of it. None of these attacks, not one of them is sticking, meaning not one of them is doing any damage.
Many of the proposals Democrats are pushing fall flat in focus groups and polling. The call for free college tuition causes resentment at ivory tower elitism. People do not think that free is ever gonna happen. They think free is a lie. They think theyre gonna pay for it if its free. They just dont believe it. And when you throw free guaranteed income in, that really doesnt poll well. So why? Why is none of this stuff sticking, when it apparently did to George W. Bush and it does stick to other Republicans? Why is it not sticking to Trump, do you think?
Trump is clowning dems by snubbing GOP. Little do they know, it has been the Republican plan all along. Double crossing the dems.
I believe Republicans are also panicked by Teflon Don.
#nevertrumpers have been wrong for 18 months, yet to hear them blabber every day is going to be the President’s demise by way of his mistakes.
Indeed, and there’s still an enormous amount of them on FR too.
It’s the Vichy Republicans, the country club power set who are panicked. Because they know deep down, that even if they succeed, they’re going to be on the wrong end of a revolution that’s going to look more like 1789 than 1776.
Drain the swamp .. The’Rats and GOPe ...
For a Republican, Trump supporter or Conservative to oppose Trump on dealing with Democrats would mean supporting Ryan-McConnell. Even with those not in love with Trump, Trump is the lesser of two evils when compared to Ryan-McConnell.
I’m completely fine with Trump dealing with Chuck and Nancy instead of Accountant Dracula and the Turtle.
LOL, I knew just to whom you were referring! He wouldn’t have to do much to complete his Halloween costume. And when he grew that beard a while back, now that was #10 Richter Scale Scary!
Trump voters almost all voted for A New Way Of Walkin’ and after the election was done, just sat back for the ride. Trump voters are a lot more canny than even Trump voters gave them credit for. now we know we are all on the same page. It’s not gonna be predictable because if it were predictable then it could and would be stymied and bollixed up and flushed away. It ain’t happening that way.
One wants to kill him. The other one wants to kill him.
The caller was right about the movies...
Buying a ticket to the movies is the same as making a donation to the Democrat Party...
I truly hope you are right.
Right on, Noumenon. And may I add...ditto.
Nice, faggy watchband she is wearing
The watchband is symbolic....... of desperate panic
She must pander to queers to exist
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