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If this is true, I have lost faith in Trump.

Maybe he's still playing games, but I want RESULTS!

1 posted on 09/14/2017 12:03:27 AM PDT by luvie
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The Dreamer legislation has been going on for 12 years. The only criteria President Trump has ever had....if you want to be a citizen....you have to go out and come back legally. In other words...no amnesty.

Let's see what they have to say. Congress has to hammer it out.

2 posted on 09/14/2017 12:17:14 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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If you read between the lines....they have to draft this and pass it into law.

So, problem number one comes up with the House. You need 219 votes. The Democrats would need twenty-odd GOP members to cross the aisle. Presently, I would have doubts that this will occur.

In the Senate...the Democrats might find eight GOP members willing to walk across.

They can draft all they want and pass all they want in the Senate, but it won’t matter. I think the Trump strategy is to reach a stage where he says....you know...we could deliver the House votes if you just agree to stage one of the Wall funding (say a 750-million down-payment) and agreement to our tax restructuring deal. The Democrats will sit there in shock...they can’t reach a conclusion on this. And the longer you allow this to drift into 2018 election season...the more likely that Trump increases the cost of this deal (maybe half of the wall).

He’s dragging both groups into the stage there if they don’t accomplish anything significant by spring of 2018....that will be 18 months of zero action and accomplishment. Voters will grasp that achievement.


3 posted on 09/14/2017 12:22:28 AM PDT by pepsionice
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Just, wow. I thought I could depend on Trump. Oh well


4 posted on 09/14/2017 12:22:51 AM PDT by Undecided 2012
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>> If this is true, I have lost faith in Trump.

Yes, yes... revel in the pointless speculation...


6 posted on 09/14/2017 12:27:40 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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Well it was fun while it lasted.


8 posted on 09/14/2017 12:37:20 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (https://imgoat.com/uploads/645920e395/39513.gif)
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Illegal aliens: Their dream is our nightmare.


10 posted on 09/14/2017 12:39:02 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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In my humble opinion, the children of illegal immigrants should be granted citizenship for several reasons:

1. They have been brought here through no fault of their own.

2. Most of them probably cannot write or read (at least properly) in their language of country of origin.

3. They’ve grown up as Americans and speak perfect English.

4. It would be cruel and unusual punishment to castigate them for their parents’ sins, which if you will agree, is completely against Western principles.

5. Exporting/Deporting them would go against Christian values of fairness.Didn’t Christ say,”Go and sin no more.”

6. My interpretation of that is to say “OK. you can be a citizen.” But build the wall and no others shall immigrate.


25 posted on 09/14/2017 2:02:21 AM PDT by Concentrate (ex-texan was right and Always Right was wrong, which is why we lost the election. Podesta the molest)
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If this is true, I have lost faith in Trump.

I haven't. I've thought about it further and have had a change of heart. The dreamers should be given permanent resident status, NOT citizenship. (Not the right to vote)

They can work their way up from there without worrying about being deported. This way they CAN be deported if they commit crimes, are gang members,etc. This solution is fairer.

Look. It's not their fault that we messed up and let them stay for 20 some odd years. Let's be just, not rash.

26 posted on 09/14/2017 2:14:28 AM PDT by Concentrate (ex-texan was right and Always Right was wrong, which is why we lost the election. Podesta the molest)
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It’s Pelosi saying this....people should consider the source with that airhead who never gets it right when speaking. “Saying” one thing and actually delivering the package are two different things....

Besides....Pelosi is out to “lift” the Demorat base from their free fall...’false hope’ is better than none.


29 posted on 09/14/2017 2:24:13 AM PDT by caww
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If this is true, America is in more danger than we’ve faced since 1861-1865. Fortunately, it’s from Schumer and Pelosi, who are not known for telling the truth.


33 posted on 09/14/2017 2:53:21 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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Mistake.


34 posted on 09/14/2017 3:12:08 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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No amnesty, I don’t care whose name is on it. If we have to fight Trump like we fought Jorge Bush, so be it. Kill the Nightmare Act. Deport them all. Let them return some day IF they did not commit any crimes and IF we need them, which is not likely.


35 posted on 09/14/2017 3:12:40 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (Chuck Schumer--giving pond scum everywhere a bad name.)
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Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 2m2 minutes ago No deal was made last night on DACA. Massive border security would have to be agreed to in exchange for consent. Would be subject to vote.
36 posted on 09/14/2017 3:13:52 AM PDT by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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Amnesty. Democrat voters for as far as the eye can see.


43 posted on 09/14/2017 4:10:33 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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Schumer, Pelosi say they have deal with Trump to protect 'Dreamers' 800,000+ NEW DEMOCRAT VOTERS!
48 posted on 09/14/2017 6:32:18 AM PDT by Savage Beast (To the insane, the sane appear insane. MAGA = Renaissance!)
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