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Democrats should embrace FBI background check for voters and gun purchasers alike
The Hill ^ | September 22, 2017 | John R Lott Jr

Posted on 09/22/2017 4:41:08 AM PDT by richardb72

Background checks are required for so many things from getting a job to buying a gun. But despite legitimate concerns about voting by illegal aliens and felons, Democrats become outraged by the mention of checks for voting.

Last week, in testimony to the President’s Advisory Commission on Election Integrity, I suggested using the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) to screen for ineligible voters. Democrats have long lauded this system, calling it simple, accurate, and in complete harmony with the second amendment right to own guns. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) bragged that the checks are done “without in any way abridging rights.” Former Vice President Joe Biden claimed that expanding the system to cover all private transfers of guns would not be “in any way imposing on or impinging on the rights that the Second Amendment guarantees.”

But literally only a few states currently even try in any way to check whether registered voters are US citizens. In 34 states, felons are not able to vote immediately upon release from prison. Even the states that check people criminal records rely on just records in their own states.

The NICS checks information from the entire country and looks at more than people’s criminal histories. It also checks on citizenship status. So why not use that information to prevent ineligible people from voting?

Background checks for gun purchases are costly, running roughly $55 to $175 for checks on private gun transfers. Requiring federally licensed gun dealers to do checks on each individual transfer is somewhat time-consuming. The current NICS system places the entire financial burden on gun buyers. This is unfair to poor people just trying to obtain a gun for self-defense, just as it would be unfair to voters. . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; cprc; democrats; elections; mediabias; votefraud

1 posted on 09/22/2017 4:41:08 AM PDT by richardb72
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To: richardb72

The demodummies DO NOT want those background checks on their potential future (illegal or not) new voters.


2 posted on 09/22/2017 4:46:28 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: DaveA37

I saw the best bumper sticker on a car the other day:

“I like my guns the way the Democrats like their voters - undocumented”


3 posted on 09/22/2017 4:50:19 AM PDT by pinkandgreenmom
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To: pinkandgreenmom

Equals the 1 ‘don’t steal, politicians hate the competition’.

I’ve had to do both TBI (TN) and FBI background checks twice, once when I first applied for my CCW permit, and again after 9/11 when I went to renew. TN now has a Life TIME permit. $200, beats going to the DL center every 4 yrs and forking over $50.

Another Day, Another Story Showing That Criminals Don’t Follow Gun Laws
http://www.townhallmail.com/ykmrswzfrrbnsfrfnfsqznpggvnggfvzccqwtsbvckmlvq_tzllpbjjjpc.html?a=&b=

Why Trump Easing Gun Export Rules Is Good For American Gun Owners
http://www.townhallmail.com/kvlklzgrkkdjlrkrjrlmgjbsspjssrpgffmzqldpfvthpr_tzllpbjjjpc.html?a=&b=


4 posted on 09/22/2017 5:10:11 AM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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To: richardb72

in complete harmony with the second amendment right to own guns


BS! Does anyone know the definition of “infringe?” Aside from that, voting is one of our most precious rights. It will not do to have some illegal turd cancel out my vote. I’ve never heard of illegals voting for conservatives. Mutually exclusive! Bad enough if my wife voted for the opposite candidate but at least she was American and proud of her right to disagree with me. That is the American way.


5 posted on 09/22/2017 5:39:56 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (Be Nice To Your Kids. They Will Pick Out Your Nursing Home)
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To: New Jersey Realist
I’ve never heard of illegals voting for conservatives.

If illegals voted conservative, the wall would already have been built.

6 posted on 09/22/2017 5:56:30 AM PDT by umgud
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To: richardb72

The FBI can barely find their backside with both hands.
Too busy protecting Hollywood from DVD copies (thanks to Harry Reid)


7 posted on 09/22/2017 5:59:06 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: richardb72

Voting is a privilege. Checks are necessary to prevent felons and criminals from voting.

Guns, however, are constitutional rights. “Background check” is a violation of the fundamental rights.


8 posted on 09/22/2017 6:29:57 AM PDT by sagar
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To: richardb72

Democrats have no problem trying to abridge second amendment rights, and no problem abridging the rights of the lawfully registered voter disenfranchised by the illegal voters.


9 posted on 09/22/2017 6:57:55 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: sagar

The fourth section of Article Four requires the United States to guarantee to each state a republican form of government... to do this citizens must be allowed to vote. As such the Supreme Court has already established that the right to vote is an unenumerated right as per the 9th Amendment.

Voting is a right. One that has been amended in the constitution to define for whom the right applies... twice.

But your correct that if a check is required for the 2nd it should just as well - if not more importantly - be applied for the vote.


10 posted on 09/22/2017 7:11:03 AM PDT by reed13k
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To: pinkandgreenmom

“I like my guns the way the Democrats like their voters - undocumented!”

Or do John Lott’s suggestion!:

Democrats should embrace FBI background check for voters and gun purchasers alike!

The Hill ^ | September 22, 2017 | John R Lott Jr
Posted on 9/22/2017, 4:41:08 AM by richardb72

Background checks are required for so many things from getting a job to buying a gun. But despite legitimate concerns about voting by illegal aliens and felons, Democrats become outraged by the mention of checks for voting.

Last week, in testimony to the President’s Advisory Commission on Election Integrity, I suggested using the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) to screen for ineligible voters. Democrats have long lauded this system, calling it simple, accurate, and in complete harmony with the second amendment right to own guns. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) bragged that the checks are done “without in any way abridging rights.” Former Vice President Joe Biden claimed that expanding the system to cover all private transfers of guns would not be “in any way imposing on or impinging on the rights that the Second Amendment guarantees.”

But literally only a few states currently even try in any way to check whether registered voters are US citizens. In 34 states, felons are not able to vote immediately upon release from prison. Even the states that check people criminal records rely on just records in their own states.

The NICS checks information from the entire country and looks at more than people’s criminal histories. It also checks on citizenship status. So why not use that information to prevent ineligible people from voting?

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3587954/posts


11 posted on 09/22/2017 7:45:31 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Did voting for Trump for President, make 62+ million of us into Deplorable Racists/Nazis? NO! NADA!)
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To: richardb72

Brilliant! It definitely puts them on the spot. They can’t answer with logic. See comments on the Hill article for examples. They can’t actually address his proposal.


12 posted on 09/22/2017 9:45:15 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Drone Soros and sons!!!)
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To: pinkandgreenmom

gonna remember this one


13 posted on 09/22/2017 3:39:34 PM PDT by ImNotLying (The Constitution is an instrument for the people to restrain the government...Patrick Henry)
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To: pinkandgreenmom

Yep, own em. Buy em at a gun store. It’s you’re right.

Any law making you register, or NJ laws are illegal. F’em.


14 posted on 09/22/2017 4:51:28 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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