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Exclusive: Author/Expert – ‘Putin Is More Dangerous Than Radical Islam’
Breitbart ^ | 9/15/17 | Penny Starr

Posted on 10/03/2017 9:31:00 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Thank you for rigging our elections Puty pute.
Don’t forget us in 2018 and 2020.


21 posted on 10/03/2017 11:23:54 AM PDT by Leep (Less talk more ACTiON!)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
The author is saying that a CIA/Mossad sock puppet is less dangerous than someone who stands up to the NeoCon war machine, a machine busy creating hatred and threats our children and grandchildren will have to deal with just like we're dealing with what was created in the late seventies and into the eighties.

The US should take the Monroe doctrine to work both ways, no one mess in our hemisphere and we won't mess in theirs.

JMHo

22 posted on 10/03/2017 11:23:54 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Rashputin

The Monroe doctrine was originally meant to do exactly that. Until WWI, America had a policy of staying out of Europe’s idiotic wars.
The Monroe doctrine was seen as a hurdle in public opinion to deal with to get us into the war.

Finally the Brits schemes to drag us in were successful.


23 posted on 10/03/2017 11:44:11 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Chiming in.

My experience is that Democrats that I have known had no problem with the Communist Soviet Union or Communist China. But post-communist Russia and much less communist China has them often using the “communist” label.

Often liberals fail to share their reasoning. Rather they tell you the words that they believe “will work with people like you.” Sincerity is a lost virtue among liberal intellectuals.

24 posted on 10/03/2017 11:44:54 AM PDT by ChessExpert (NAFTA - Not A Free Trade Agreement)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Non-radical Islam is more dangerous than Putin.


25 posted on 10/03/2017 11:50:02 AM PDT by amihow
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To: mac_truck

We are seeing an attempt by neocons to push for war with Iran, again. Breitbart is playing along with this for some reason.


26 posted on 10/03/2017 12:19:00 PM PDT by WatchungEagle
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Putin is a threat because of its aims, but not a large threat due to its limitations. Russia is shrinking and fast in population and has the economic size of Italy.

I agree its hunger is for Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia. Next will be Poland, Bulgaria. But it is not the threat of the Islamic invasion of Europe.


27 posted on 10/03/2017 1:56:09 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: billakay
He is communist and misses the old Empire. But more accurately he is a kleptocrat, having funneled 30% of Russia's budget for the last 10 years.
28 posted on 10/03/2017 1:58:51 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: PGR88

Russia is about as Christian as Britain, as in not at all. It’s all fake, as is Putin’s embrace of the Church.


29 posted on 10/03/2017 2:00:07 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: amihow

Domestically I think the Deep State and illegal immigration is far a larger threat than both.


30 posted on 10/03/2017 2:01:36 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Sam Gamgee
Russia is about as Christian as Britain, as in not at all. It’s all fake, as is Putin’s embrace of the Church.

Yes, of course. They destroyed their culture with 70+ years of communism. Regardless, it seems that someone in Russia realizes that national culture, commonly accepted moral standards that are usually manifest in practices religion, are how you prevent your people and nation from going extinct.

31 posted on 10/03/2017 2:04:40 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Sam Gamgee
He is communist and misses the old Empire.

I am familiar with the quote that you are probably using as a basis for this claim: "biggest geopolitical catastrophe, etc. etc." What a naive reading of this fails to grasp is Russian culture. Russians are a very patriotic people, and lamenting over their loss of power and influence on the world stage is NOT the same as pining for Communism to return.

I live in Russia at the moment, and the only Communists I see are the old babushkas who pine for the days of "certainty"...the kind of certainty that if you stand in the bread line, you will eventually get your bread. The new generation dosen't have this problem at all.

I see absolutely zero indicates that Putin is ideologically Communist in any way whatsoever. He is a Russian patriot, and that is it.

32 posted on 10/03/2017 10:39:31 PM PDT by billakay
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To: PGR88
You are absolutely right about this. More than anything, Russia is pushing right now to cultivate and revive a national culture, based on moral standards. Orthodoxy is a perfect vehicle in which to deliver these standards.

I of course cannot judge whether or not Putin is a believer himself, but I do know that he was baptized by his mother as an infant, in secret, and ostensibly against the wishes of his father, who held some kind of position in the party.

33 posted on 10/03/2017 10:43:02 PM PDT by billakay
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To: Sam Gamgee
Putin is a threat because of its aims, but not a large threat due to its limitations. Russia is shrinking and fast in population and has the economic size of Italy.

I agree its hunger is for Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia. Next will be Poland, Bulgaria. But it is not the threat of the Islamic invasion of Europe.

Forgive me, but in what world do you live in? Russian population is not shrinking. In fact, the post-USSR negative population growth was arrested by 2008 and has been growing since. Right now, the total fertility rate per woman is ~1.75. For reference, the USA is at 1.84, Germany, 1.50, and Poland, 1.32.

GDP shrinkage due to the oil price crisis in 2014 has been arrested due to massive investments in manufacturing (import replacement), and GDP growth in 2017 is again positive. Domestically, "Made in Russia" is appearing everywhere.

There is absolutely no "hunger" for what the Russians call prebaltika. They already have Kaliningrad on the Baltic sea, and more territory inside than can possibly be used in the next century.

Stop with the neocon warmongering, please!

34 posted on 10/03/2017 10:54:21 PM PDT by billakay
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Russia’s new ideology is inward: Russian nationalism, historic Christianity, and Russia’s own power. Its simply gone back to 19th century European power politics. It is the USA’s neocons/progressives who now have the globalist ideology - open borders, atheism/secularism, global finance, diluting cultures in a stew pot of consumerism and progressive values.

This is correct. Western liberalism (including neoconservatism) are internationalist and globalist, just like Marxist socialism. All of these ideologies devalue the nation state as a sovereign entity in favor of world government and "world citizenry." This is why both Democrats and establishment Republicans are so committed to open borders and to free trade.

Putin's kleptocratic authoritarianism has plenty to criticize, but it has nothing to do with and little in common with Marxism.

35 posted on 10/04/2017 9:57:51 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: billakay
You are trying to tell me Russia is some capitalistic state? What about the fact Putin is former KGB, or that he and his buddies have sliced off 30% of the federal budget for themselves the last 10 years? And that they interfere in international bidding process to award contracts to his buddies?

You really don't fear Russia swallowing up Eastern Europe? I think we have a Russophile here.

36 posted on 10/04/2017 11:48:38 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Sam Gamgee
He is communist and misses the old Empire. But more accurately he is a kleptocrat, having funneled 30% of Russia's budget for the last 10 years.

I've seen nothing to indicate that Putin has any interest in or commitment to Marxist-Leninist ideology (his nostalgia for the USSR was due to Russia being a superpower, not because of Communist ideology). The kleptocrat part is correct - he's something in the style of the non-ideological tinpot dictators that ruled most Latin American countries with the help of gangster-oligarchs until recently. Putin is more in the mold of a Trujillo than a Castro.

37 posted on 10/04/2017 1:21:09 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck

Good point.


38 posted on 10/04/2017 1:23:35 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Sam Gamgee
I don't understand why Putin is a hero to so many people here. Most likely, having a thuggish, mostly non-ideological tin pot dictator is better than some of the alternatives in Russia (Communism, Yeltsin-style lawlessness), but being a lesser evil doesn't make you good.

Conversely, I also have no use for the mass hysteria of Clinton Democrats or neoconservatives who try to convince us that Putin is some mortal threat to US security or that he's some omnipotent puppetmaster controlling our elections and media. The worst he's capable of is continuing to meddle with non-NATO former Soviet Republics like Ukraine and Georgia. Unlike Islamists or the Norks, he isn't irrational enough to risk a war with the United States by taking on any NATO country (even former Soviet Republics).

39 posted on 10/04/2017 1:38:47 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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I'm basically in the same place you are. Not in line with the neo-cons who want to blindly follow Democrats, frankly because they gain something from the Russia meddling narrative.

But I have no doubt he is a threat to the Ukraine, and the rest of Eastern Europe, that he killed journalists, and that he is helping Iran create its bomb.

40 posted on 10/04/2017 1:51:30 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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