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Please Stop With the Conspiracy Theories Surrounding the Las Vegas Shooting
Townhall.com ^ | October 5, 2017 | Steve Sheldon

Posted on 10/05/2017 3:25:24 PM PDT by Kaslin

Too many rumors are swirling around regarding the tragedy in Vegas from Sunday night. Let me start by dispelling with some of the questions floating around on the internet:


1.  How did he get that many weapons into his room without being noticed?  

A: With a luggage cart and ten suitcases over 3 days.

2.  How did he fire off that many rounds without training?  

A: A monkey can pull a trigger; and, who says he didn't have practice?

3. How was he able to kill that many people in such a short time?  

A: He had 11 minutes firing on near full-auto (using a bump fire device) into a crowd of people that had no idea where the fire was coming from.

4.  Why did he have so many weapons?  

A: First, he was a psychopath. Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said it best, "No Ma'am, I can't get into the mind of a psychopath at this point." 

Second, he probably thought he would be there for an extended period of time and perhaps thought he would heat up one or more guns. Maybe he wasn't good at changing magazines? Again, first answer is always a fit. Seriously, how can we apply reason to a psychopath?

5. How did he get his hands on fully automatic firearms?  

A: Investigation has determined that he had bump fire or slide fire devices on 12 of his firearms, which make them sound like a full-auto and operate much like a full-auto. They are approved by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and are easily available (until now).

6.  How was he able to remove a window with 800 pounds of hurricane glass without training? (I know, seriously, this was a question.) 

A: With a hammer.

7. How did he get up 32 floors with 400 pounds of equipment?  

A: With an elevator and luggage cart.

8.  What about the sounds of gunfire coming from other directions?  

A:  It was an echo. 

9. How does one man come to own $100K worth of weapons without being noticed?  

A: He was rich.  As far as what we know right now, all guns were purchased legally over a period of time from multiple vendors.  Every dealer and serious collector at a gun show has that many or more, and they are not psychopathic mass murderer candidates.

10: How is it possible that he killed/injured so many in such a short time...without training?

A:  He was able to fire uninhibited an unreported number of rounds into a massive crowd, where he couldn't miss hitting something. When we know more, it is likely that many of the injuries were not from gunfire but from the panic that ensued. However, considering the rate of fire and the mass of the crowd, it wouldn't be the least bit unreasonable to think that 50-70% of the bullets hit something.

11. What gun laws could have prevented this?  

A: None. He had no criminal background.

12. What about laws preventing mentally ill people from getting firearms?  

A: How does one accurately measure another's current mental stability or future propensity to become a psychopath among the group of every potential firearm purchaser?

13. What about the unidentified and unverified woman who told the crowd that a lot of people were going to die?  

Possible answers: 1. It is made up nonsense. 2. She was drunk.

14. What about the shots coming from other floors?  

A. Echoes, reflections of other things, reflections of the shooter across multiple reflective surfaces (Las Vegas is mostly glass)... 

Response questions:  Where in these locations was glass broken?  Where in these locations were reports of gunfire from adjacent rooms? (That's how the shooter was quickly located.) How did these mysterious shooters so quickly police up all their brass and keep the fire alarms from going off with all the smoke?

15. How did the shooter manage to record a video of himself?

A.  Ummmmm, I don't know, a tripod?

Finally, some questions for the conspiracy theorists.

How do hundreds of law enforcement officers secretly conspire to cover up evidence in one of the nation's worst modern massacres?  What would be their motivation? Would conspiracy advocates be satisfied when they see video evidence of the shooter by himself committing the act and ending it by putting a gun in his mouth?

I could go on, but you get the picture.  Please folks, stop with the conspiracy insanity and let the investigators do their jobs.  Seriously, just stop.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: conspiracytheory; grassyknoll; guncontrol; lasvegasshooting; magicbullets; yeaaaaaaaa
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To: TigerClaws
"Sheriff said we assume he had help."

My recollection was he said he MIGHT have had help somewhere during the process, not necessarily during the actual shooting. And even if he had help, that doesn't mean the shooter was a patsy, a stooge, a victim, a government agent, a member of antifa, or was using guns obtained from Fast & Furious.
201 posted on 10/05/2017 6:00:19 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: RegulatorCountry

Well said.


203 posted on 10/05/2017 6:02:34 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: RegulatorCountry
"FR made it’s bones on Clinton-era conspiracy theories, which turned out to be correct."

Some of them, maybe. I have no problem with speculation - I do it myself - but it bothers me when speculation - often based on unverified or assumed information, or even information already known to be false - is presented as fact, and anyone who disagrees is treated as a witless tool of the CIA.
204 posted on 10/05/2017 6:05:03 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Keyhopper

That’s suicide glass


205 posted on 10/05/2017 6:05:40 PM PDT by mylife
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To: Keyhopper

I like funky ol places that you prop the windows open on a nice night cus the widow sasch weights are shot


206 posted on 10/05/2017 6:09:15 PM PDT by mylife
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To: CaptainCarrollton
"How do you know that no one noticed the broken glass or was injured by it?"

Many hotels are surrounded by a strip of plantings, i.e., shrubs, flowers, trees and/or lawns, and the sound of falling debris might be somewhat muted by the relatively soft impact area. That, plus the fact that a music concert - with amplified instruments - was going on, makes it easy to understand how the falling glass might not be noticed except by people who were right next to it.
207 posted on 10/05/2017 6:09:16 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: CaptainCarrollton

Old Ghosts


208 posted on 10/05/2017 6:11:43 PM PDT by mylife
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To: deport

Gonna have to blame the world for 1 mans actions.

Congress will see to it.


209 posted on 10/05/2017 6:13:36 PM PDT by mylife
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To: TXnMA

I am sure they are amongst the injured attributed to the 2nd amendment
And those trampled in the melee


210 posted on 10/05/2017 6:17:57 PM PDT by mylife
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To: Keyhopper

Only thing strange about this so far is no motive can be ascribed as yet.


211 posted on 10/05/2017 6:19:52 PM PDT by reardensteel
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To: Rennes Templar

SMH.

Those look like reflections of some kind. Especially the last video he show. Maybe an led sign. Horizontal rectangle.


212 posted on 10/05/2017 6:21:52 PM PDT by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: Kaslin

I’ve been through all of the replies so far and didn’t see this asked.
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News sites have released photos of the hotel room and mentioned “dozens” of empty cases.
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Where are the thousands of rounds of spent brass????? You should barely be able to see the carpet with all the spent cases around. Any why no burns? The spent brass is HOT. After a few magazines at full auto (or bump fire) the barrel gets HOT. When you put a rifle with a HOT barrel down on nylon carpet it’s gonna leave a mark!
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Have you ever cleaned up an indoor range after over 3,000 rounds have been expended??? I have been a range safety officer during NRA pistol classes. 32 shooters each firing 50 rounds. That’s only 1,600 rounds. It’s like a brass carpet for goodness sake!!!


213 posted on 10/05/2017 6:22:38 PM PDT by Conservative_Rob
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I have been in that melee at a UFO concert in 75?

Remember all those kids killed at the Who concert in Pennsyltucky

Lots of smoke and hysteria here.


214 posted on 10/05/2017 6:22:49 PM PDT by mylife
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To: CaptainCarrollton
There are other possible reasons, such as he was a psychopathic nutcase like his dad was.

Come to think of it, mass shootings in the United States being politically or religiously motivated seem to be a relatively recent trend. Going through this list of mass shootings over the years, most of them took place for reasons that had nothing to do with ideology.

Category:Mass shootings in the United States by year

Posting on a political forum, we're inclined to see everything through the lese of politics but sometimes, people are just crazy.

215 posted on 10/05/2017 6:23:11 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: smokingfrog; Kaslin
My #197 is an adjunct to your discussion of the "hurricane" glass...

AFAIK, there was heavy landscaping shrubbery adjacent to the building, which might have caught/concealed much of it. However, from 32 floors up. aerodynamics would be expected to "sail" significant flat pieces a considerable distance from a vertical trajectory.

All I can figure is that that must have been generally-unoccupied ground area. OTOH, on the Strip, there are precious few square feet of non-functional ground area...

Also, did no one on lower floors notice "junk" crashing down past their windows?

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Related question: Did no one outside the Mandalay Bay building locate (and report) the position of the shooter?

217 posted on 10/05/2017 6:24:04 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias | "Islamists": Satan's assassins | "Moderate Muslims": Useful idiots.)
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To: Kaslin
Please Stop With the Conspiracy Theories Surrounding the Las Vegas Shooting

Why?


Large pieces of glass obviously fell toward the ground.

Why didn't someone notice this?

218 posted on 10/05/2017 6:28:24 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Somebody did

Let the blood dry


220 posted on 10/05/2017 6:31:06 PM PDT by mylife
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