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Please Stop With the Conspiracy Theories Surrounding the Las Vegas Shooting
Townhall.com ^ | October 5, 2017 | Steve Sheldon

Posted on 10/05/2017 3:25:24 PM PDT by Kaslin

Too many rumors are swirling around regarding the tragedy in Vegas from Sunday night. Let me start by dispelling with some of the questions floating around on the internet:


1.  How did he get that many weapons into his room without being noticed?  

A: With a luggage cart and ten suitcases over 3 days.

2.  How did he fire off that many rounds without training?  

A: A monkey can pull a trigger; and, who says he didn't have practice?

3. How was he able to kill that many people in such a short time?  

A: He had 11 minutes firing on near full-auto (using a bump fire device) into a crowd of people that had no idea where the fire was coming from.

4.  Why did he have so many weapons?  

A: First, he was a psychopath. Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said it best, "No Ma'am, I can't get into the mind of a psychopath at this point." 

Second, he probably thought he would be there for an extended period of time and perhaps thought he would heat up one or more guns. Maybe he wasn't good at changing magazines? Again, first answer is always a fit. Seriously, how can we apply reason to a psychopath?

5. How did he get his hands on fully automatic firearms?  

A: Investigation has determined that he had bump fire or slide fire devices on 12 of his firearms, which make them sound like a full-auto and operate much like a full-auto. They are approved by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and are easily available (until now).

6.  How was he able to remove a window with 800 pounds of hurricane glass without training? (I know, seriously, this was a question.) 

A: With a hammer.

7. How did he get up 32 floors with 400 pounds of equipment?  

A: With an elevator and luggage cart.

8.  What about the sounds of gunfire coming from other directions?  

A:  It was an echo. 

9. How does one man come to own $100K worth of weapons without being noticed?  

A: He was rich.  As far as what we know right now, all guns were purchased legally over a period of time from multiple vendors.  Every dealer and serious collector at a gun show has that many or more, and they are not psychopathic mass murderer candidates.

10: How is it possible that he killed/injured so many in such a short time...without training?

A:  He was able to fire uninhibited an unreported number of rounds into a massive crowd, where he couldn't miss hitting something. When we know more, it is likely that many of the injuries were not from gunfire but from the panic that ensued. However, considering the rate of fire and the mass of the crowd, it wouldn't be the least bit unreasonable to think that 50-70% of the bullets hit something.

11. What gun laws could have prevented this?  

A: None. He had no criminal background.

12. What about laws preventing mentally ill people from getting firearms?  

A: How does one accurately measure another's current mental stability or future propensity to become a psychopath among the group of every potential firearm purchaser?

13. What about the unidentified and unverified woman who told the crowd that a lot of people were going to die?  

Possible answers: 1. It is made up nonsense. 2. She was drunk.

14. What about the shots coming from other floors?  

A. Echoes, reflections of other things, reflections of the shooter across multiple reflective surfaces (Las Vegas is mostly glass)... 

Response questions:  Where in these locations was glass broken?  Where in these locations were reports of gunfire from adjacent rooms? (That's how the shooter was quickly located.) How did these mysterious shooters so quickly police up all their brass and keep the fire alarms from going off with all the smoke?

15. How did the shooter manage to record a video of himself?

A.  Ummmmm, I don't know, a tripod?

Finally, some questions for the conspiracy theorists.

How do hundreds of law enforcement officers secretly conspire to cover up evidence in one of the nation's worst modern massacres?  What would be their motivation? Would conspiracy advocates be satisfied when they see video evidence of the shooter by himself committing the act and ending it by putting a gun in his mouth?

I could go on, but you get the picture.  Please folks, stop with the conspiracy insanity and let the investigators do their jobs.  Seriously, just stop.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: conspiracytheory; grassyknoll; guncontrol; lasvegasshooting; magicbullets; yeaaaaaaaa
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To: Steve Van Doorn; All

Fast and Furious.

Benghazi.

Leftists say everything is a vast right wing conspiracy.

We have the First Amendment and are free to question things in this country.

No way the msm narrative on this is true. No. Way.


21 posted on 10/05/2017 3:41:11 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: gaijin
Does the Fraternal Order of Police say that he was ANTIFA?
Anyone could make that picture. I don't know
22 posted on 10/05/2017 3:41:52 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Kaslin

It would not be that easy to break “hurricane glass” with just a standard ball peen or carpenter’s hammer. You’d want to have a center punch or pointed chisel that could put a lot of pressure on a single-point with a fairly heavy-duty hammer (a small hand sledge at least). Shooting at the glass first and then breaking it out would probably work too, but I don’t think I’d want to try it from a very close distance.


23 posted on 10/05/2017 3:42:21 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: McGruff

It sure is and some of them are on this thread.


24 posted on 10/05/2017 3:42:31 PM PDT by Kaslin (Politicians are not born; they are excreted -Civilibus nati sunt; sunt excernitur. (Cicero))
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To: Hot Tabasco

FR made it’s bones on Clinton-era conspiracy theories, which turned out to be correct. Acting as if conspiracy theories are something foreign and embarrassing here is sort of strange in light of that, it seems to be the habit of relative newbies who feel oddly compelled to encourage certain thoughts and to discourage others. It’s the prime pastime here, some theories are loony. Some are not. Some merely appear to be loony at first blush, then suddenly stop sounding so loony. I can remember when there was a regular Art Bell thread, and I found it entertaining, not something to be ashamed of.


25 posted on 10/05/2017 3:42:58 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Kaslin
Paddock was a TOOL for a 'greater' cause. They, possibly a Soros Deep State hack OR ONE OF OUR 3-LETTER AGENCIES SUCH AS THE ALTERNATE DEEP STATE CIA, NSA, FBI, OR ???, selected the perfect person to do it: Old, no profiles and LOW PROFILE, no criminal record, wealthy, quiet, blah blah blah..

Paddock was a TOOL who was assured he'd be helped to escape. THE DUDE WAS A LONG-TIME GOV'T EMPLOYEE, RIGHT?

26 posted on 10/05/2017 3:43:28 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Feminism DESTROYED females)
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To: Meet the New Boss

Other reports said he was barricaded in his room.

Makes more sense.

Vegas has active shooter training for hotel employees and LEOs.

Why did he kill himself an hour before police arrived?

Is the security guard truly a suspect?

I like asking questions.


27 posted on 10/05/2017 3:43:35 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: cherry

Just saw this vid. Certainly seems like shots being fired from the fourth floor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRjLIzNSRoE


28 posted on 10/05/2017 3:43:50 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (Morning in America Again, again.)
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To: Kaslin

This guy needs a Nobel Prize.


29 posted on 10/05/2017 3:44:44 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Kaslin

This one won’t go away that easily. To many people have no trust in anything from the establishment, with good reason. The continued tyrannical behavior from the political and corporate interests will exacerbate the problem more and more in the coming years. Good time to invest in popcorn.


30 posted on 10/05/2017 3:44:45 PM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Prayers for Gods People! Salvation & Restoration!)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Fist bump to that!

We will find out he wasn’t a crazed lone wolf. He had help and he had a cause.


31 posted on 10/05/2017 3:44:51 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: gaijin

Sometimes the quick response isn’t always right


32 posted on 10/05/2017 3:44:54 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Kaslin

Its frustrating, but the tannerite alone causes speculation.


33 posted on 10/05/2017 3:45:23 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Truth, in a time of universal deceit, is courage)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Well done!!! :-)


34 posted on 10/05/2017 3:46:00 PM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Prayers for Gods People! Salvation & Restoration!)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Indeed


35 posted on 10/05/2017 3:47:02 PM PDT by Kaslin (Politicians are not born; they are excreted -Civilibus nati sunt; sunt excernitur. (Cicero))
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To: Kaslin

It’s very important for members of the public to dig out clues to these events and pursue whatever leads they can.

The federal authorities have proven time and time again that they will corrupt investigations and mislead the public to serve the political agenda of the ruling class.

So we get the FBI misplacing evidence in the OKC bombing, TWA 800 nonsense, terrorist attacks fobbed off on the public as workplace violence (Ft Hood) or self-hating gay (Orlando) etc. etc.

The public needs to jump on these events, identify potential suspects as soon as possible and archive social media pages before they are scrubbed, try to find other evidence and generally view the FBI/CIA narratives with skepticism.

At least until we can root out the corrupt deep state bureaucracy with personnel who actually care about and serve the American people rather than globalist and progressive agendas.


36 posted on 10/05/2017 3:47:41 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Meet the New Boss

There was a camera set up on a room service food cart outside the door to monitor the hallway, and from the size of the cable that I saw in the photo it’s possible that it wouldn’t fit under the bottom of the closed door.


37 posted on 10/05/2017 3:48:24 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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To: TigerClaws

Well, there are some “funny” lookin’ planes parked nearby in older sat pics.

I still think you should contact the CIA/IC to see if he was ever their guy.


38 posted on 10/05/2017 3:48:28 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Meet the New Boss

Hear!, Hear!


39 posted on 10/05/2017 3:49:34 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: TigerClaws

Response questions: Where in these locations was glass broken? Where in these locations were reports of gunfire from adjacent rooms? (That’s how the shooter was quickly located.) How did these mysterious shooters so quickly police up all their brass and keep the fire alarms from going off with all the smoke?

@@@@@

Where were the he fire alarms?

Here’s footage above the shooter. No alarms. (NSFW language)

http://www.miscopy.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/video-film-48th-floor-mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting.mp4?id=0

Smoke filled room from gunpowder. No alarm?

No security video? He turn that off, too? How?


40 posted on 10/05/2017 3:49:36 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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