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The Hammer Falls On The USS John S. McCain Command Team
Red State ^ | 11 Oct 2017

Posted on 10/11/2017 7:18:19 AM PDT by mandaladon

On August 21, the guided missile destroyer USS John S. McCain was rammed by a Liberian-flagged supertanker, the Alnic MC. Ten sailor were killed in the collision. (See my posts on the collision here.)

Yesterday, the US Navy announced that is had relieved the commander and the executive officer of the USS John S. McCain and called the collision preventable:

The commanding officer, Cmdr. Alfredo J. Sanchez, and executive officer, Cmdr. Jessie L. Sanchez, of the guided-missile destroyer USS John S. McCain (DDG 56) were relieved of their duties by Vice Adm. Phil Sawyer, Commander, Seventh Fleet, on Oct. 11. Both were relieved due to a loss of confidence.

John S. McCain was involved in a collision with the merchant vessel Alnic MC Aug. 21 that claimed the lives of 10 Sailors, injured five more, and damaged both ships.

While the investigation is ongoing, it is evident the collision was preventable, the commanding officer exercised poor judgement, and the executive officer exercised poor leadership of the ship’s training program.

Interesting side note here. The senior chief petty officer aboard the USS Fitzgerald was relieved along with the commander, executive officer, and seemingly everyone on the bridge. That was an indicator that some major breach of individual training or discipline was determined to be widespread. The chief of the USS John S. McCain seems to have evaded the axe for the time being. As the same general fact pattern of the USS Fitzgerald was present, i.e. human lookouts not seeing a huge ship bearing down on them, the collision alarm not sounded until after the collision, etc., there is an interesting, if untold, story lurking here.

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: navy; trump; usnavy; ussjohnmccain
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~In my opinion they deserve to be court martialed..
1 posted on 10/11/2017 7:18:19 AM PDT by mandaladon
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To: TXnMA; rlmorel

ping


2 posted on 10/11/2017 7:20:14 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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To: mandaladon

Why on earth would they name a boat after a living a$$hole?

You never know what the damn fool will do next.


3 posted on 10/11/2017 7:23:07 AM PDT by Mr. K (***THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE OF REPEALING OBAMACARE THAT IS WORSE THAN OBAMACARE ITSELF***)
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To: mandaladon
"The commanding officer, Cmdr. Alfredo J. Sanchez, and executive officer, Cmdr. Jessie L. Sanchez..."

Are they a couple?

4 posted on 10/11/2017 7:23:49 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Mr. K

May be named after pappy McCain, or even grandpappy.


5 posted on 10/11/2017 7:24:20 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: mandaladon

They are just following their namesake’s lead.


6 posted on 10/11/2017 7:24:43 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: Mr. K

It isn’t named after him. It’s named after his father and grandfather.


7 posted on 10/11/2017 7:25:27 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: mandaladon
I'm former Army (long,long ago) so I know absolutely nothing about the Navy...or basic seamanship.But I'm wondering....if senior officers/petty officers were disciplined does that mean that it was determined that the McCain,rather than the other vessel,was at fault?

One would assume that that would be the case...but maybe the Navy takes a different view.

8 posted on 10/11/2017 7:26:29 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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To: mandaladon

Now that they’ve relieved these two of command, time to change the name of the ship!


9 posted on 10/11/2017 7:26:57 AM PDT by Road Warrior 04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: mandaladon

Are they brothers or related at some level?


10 posted on 10/11/2017 7:27:42 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, if they were going to name anything after the currently-living McCain, it should be an A-4.


11 posted on 10/11/2017 7:28:13 AM PDT by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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To: Mr. K

You really think the ship is named for Sen. McCain? Really?


12 posted on 10/11/2017 7:29:19 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Guenevere

Not necessarily. Sanchez is a pretty common Hispanic name.


13 posted on 10/11/2017 7:30:59 AM PDT by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Are they DREAMERS?


14 posted on 10/11/2017 7:32:53 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: bigbob

Or a privy, like in the Green Berets movie.


15 posted on 10/11/2017 7:35:11 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: bigbob

Or a Russian anti-aircraft missile system.


16 posted on 10/11/2017 7:36:45 AM PDT by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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To: Road Warrior ‘04

Nah. Keep the name and let the ship be forever shamed for the older McCains covering for their traitorous son and grandson.


17 posted on 10/11/2017 7:37:42 AM PDT by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners.)
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To: mandaladon

Karma


18 posted on 10/11/2017 7:39:02 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: mandaladon

Dood on the left setsoff gaydars.


19 posted on 10/11/2017 7:43:10 AM PDT by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: mandaladon

I’m a little puzzled about something. The Commander, the XO and the Senior Chief were relieved. Then the article says that the Chief of the ship was not relieved. Which Chief is being referred to?


20 posted on 10/11/2017 7:43:27 AM PDT by Enterprise (Do away with all symbols of past slavery. Start with the Democrat Party.)
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