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With Stroke of a Pen, Trump Takes First Substantial Slice Out of Obamacare
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | October 12, 2017 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 10/12/2017 3:28:44 PM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 10/12/2017 3:28:44 PM PDT by Kaslin
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The President should tell all concerned private parties and the states that they are free to simply ignore the ACA as it is an invalid and illegal act, and he should order a stop to any federal actions that implement or support the ACA.

If there's more to be done to undo it, then those steps should be taken. Trump should nullify/reject ACA as unconstitutional but not try to change or make new laws as an alternative.

2 posted on 10/12/2017 3:31:47 PM PDT by Jim W N
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Great to see the leadership of Congress supporting the President...oh, wait


3 posted on 10/12/2017 3:32:16 PM PDT by Jolla
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To: Kaslin

A law which was enacted by means of fraud and chicanery.

And upheld in court by a tissue thin legal fiction.

And which a previous president had altered without legislation, but with mere decrees.


4 posted on 10/12/2017 3:35:01 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Kaslin

Obamacare is a Congressional act, howbeit an unconstitutional congressional act. The Constitution only authorizes Congress to make legislation.
To the degree Trump is initiating legislative acts, he is imitating Obama’s unconstitutional behavior. NOT GOOD!

Doing the wrong thing for the right reason is still WRONG!!!

THE issue in America isn’t healthcare, it is THE CONSTITUTION, LIMITED FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, and STOPPING FEDERAL TYRANNY.

When the Right violates the Constitution for the “right” reason they enable the Left to utterly dispose of the Constitution and establish REAL tyranny.

The answer to unconstitutional Obamacare is for the executive branch AND the states to simply NOT ENFORCE Obamacare until the American People FORCE Congress to act and legislate constitutionally.

To the degree Trump rejects and refuses to enforce Obamacare because it is unconstitutional, to that degree Trump is behaving constitutionally. But Trump must not change or create law through EO’s like Obama did.


5 posted on 10/12/2017 3:38:24 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: BenLurkin

Well said. The media never mentions how it was rammed through by the Democrats, and only the Democrats with a lot of twisted arms and payoffs.


6 posted on 10/12/2017 3:39:38 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Kaslin
Presidential Executive Order Promoting Healthcare Choice and Competition Across the United States

Not sure if this is the Excecutive Order or a Memoranda about the Executive Order. It's under Memoranda.

Section 1. Policy. (a) It shall be the policy of the executive branch, to the extent consistent with law,...

7 posted on 10/12/2017 3:46:08 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Jim 0216

The Democrats have gutted the constitution and rule of law. If we don’t play by their rules we may be finished. But as you point out, we may be finished either way. Pick your poison.


8 posted on 10/12/2017 3:57:49 PM PDT by Spok
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To: Jim 0216

Your post #2 is right on the money.


9 posted on 10/12/2017 3:58:19 PM PDT by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be defeated.)
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Only in the mind of a lunatic liberal or Democrat would a collapsing, failing, overpriced, and misrepresented insurance scheme be considered the signature “achievement” of Obama’s failed Presidency. If it was an achievement, what would be a failure?


10 posted on 10/12/2017 4:04:40 PM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning.)
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To: Spok
I choose to stand and fight for freedom and the Constitution which protects it. Too many seem to have given up their God-given rights and freedoms to the Delusional Lying Left without a fight. But Trump is an example of how we should fight and how we should carry the fight to these tyrants.

With God's help we'll win. We are really in a Second American Revolution, this time to recover our rights and our Free Constitutional Republic.

11 posted on 10/12/2017 4:05:52 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: T Ruth

Thank you.


12 posted on 10/12/2017 4:06:11 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Kaslin

Only in the mind of a lunatic liberal other democrat would a collapsing, failing, overpriced, and misrepresented insurance scheme be considered the signature “achievement” of Obama’s failed Presidency. If it was an achievement, what would be a failure?


13 posted on 10/12/2017 4:07:05 PM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning.)
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To: Jim 0216

Obamacare was forced on us via fraud and deceit—the executive branch can and should protect the citizens from such abuses.

Congress has been utterly derelict.


14 posted on 10/12/2017 4:52:01 PM PDT by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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When the Right violates the Constitution for the “right” reason they enable the Left to utterly dispose of the Constitution and establish REAL tyranny.

The answer to unconstitutional Obamacare is for the executive branch AND the states to simply NOT ENFORCE Obamacare until the American People FORCE Congress to act and legislate constitutionally.


15 posted on 10/12/2017 4:59:18 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: BenLurkin

“And which a previous president had altered without legislation, but with mere decrees.”

And who also issued exemptions to any Democrat special interest group who begged for one.


16 posted on 10/12/2017 5:59:55 PM PDT by FrdmLvr
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To: Jim 0216

As I read the ACA there were a lot of things that were left at the discretion of the Executive branch. There were all sorts of waivers that could be granted or taken away. Which is the only reason the congress critters aren’t required to adhere to it.

I see this Executive Order as a major implementation of the allowed waiver authority granted the Executive branch by the Legislative branch. Very similar to regulatory authority in a number of other areas, where the congress has (in my mind unconstitutionally despite what the SC stated in the early 1900s) passed regulatory authority to various executive bureaus, administrations, committees, commissions, etc.


17 posted on 10/12/2017 9:40:48 PM PDT by reed13k
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Well, if the ACA is unconstitutional, which it is, then it doesn’t matter what its provisions are, because it the whole thing is invalid and should be rejected and nullified by the states and the President.

Valid presidential action here is to tell all concerned private parties and the states that they are free to simply ignore the ACA as an invalid and illegal act, and he should order a stop to any federal actions that implement or support the ACA. If there’s more to be done to undo it, then those steps should be taken.

The ACA is unconstitutional because the Constitution gives the feds no power over healthcare. Trump should NULLIFY/REJECT ENFORCEMENT OF ACA as unconstitutional but NOT try to unconstitutionally CHANGE or make new laws as an alternative and/or USE the invalid law to further unconstitutionally interfere with healthcare.


18 posted on 10/13/2017 11:15:11 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

My point was the law allows for a plethora of waivers and his actions fall within that scope.


19 posted on 10/13/2017 3:59:37 PM PDT by reed13k
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OK, but that “law” is invalid because it is unconstitutional, so it doesn’t matter that it “allows for a plethora of waivers and his actions fall within that scope.”

Trump’s action should be to implement NON ENFORCEMENT of ACA. His action should not be more unconstitutional acts in the name of doing the “right” thing.


20 posted on 10/13/2017 4:07:33 PM PDT by Jim W N
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