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Child Sex Offenders To Be Named As Such In US Passports
AP News ^ | 11/02/17 | MATTHEW LEE

Posted on 11/02/2017 11:16:43 AM PDT by Enlightened1

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To: fortes fortuna juvat
"Those convicted of offenses not related to child sex abuse would not be affected by the passport designation. And regarding the “other offenses” argument, that which now prevents the government from such passport designations presumably would continue to do so."

That's the problem. Many of these cases involve consensual teenage sex. One I can remember was 17 and 16. So "child sex offender" may mean a 17 year old and very often is just that. Examples like this are not rare at all. Many states include those convicted of peeing in public, prostitution, and many other acts that in realty have nothing to do with being what a reasonable person would consider a "sex offender". That's why I say those that are not thinking have in there minds 40 year old men that rape 5 year olds which is an understandably emotional response. If you do a little research I think you will find the sex offender lists rarely have anything to do with these monsters and the lists themselves are full of non sex offender violations. Lastly whatever mechanism you say protects us from printing "climate change denier" on a persons pass port must be the same as what should prevent "sex offender" from being printed on a passport so no reason to believe we are protected.

One should be vary wary of any of this scarlet letter tendency as it's a direct flag for oppressive government. The government is using this reasoning to take away 2nd amendment rights of anyone involved in domestic violence and service members who could have PTSD. They are using it to brand anyone that has been treated for any physiological issues and on and on. It's getting to the point where you better have a lawyer with you when you visit a doctor and refer to the lawyer when asked questions like "are you feeling depressed".

61 posted on 11/02/2017 9:06:21 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: CJ Wolf
"so to you, noting in a passport that you raped a kid in the USA and also convicted by a jury of your peers is cruel and unusual punishment? wow"

Good grief. I will say it once more. Once a person convicted of a crime has served their sentence then that persons debt to society has been paid. Their punishment ends there. Branding someone never go's away so yes that is prohibited by the 8th amendment.

62 posted on 11/02/2017 9:14:15 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist
“Once a person convicted of a crime has served their sentence then that persons debt to society has been paid.”

One would like to think so - but of course felons (ex felons? former felons?) that have served their sentence still can't legally exercise their 2nd Amendment rights.

Re: sex crimes - I knew a guy that worked admin in a prison, and was on some committee whenever it came time for paroles. He said the sex offenders were the worst. They had to release them based on the various guidelines (good behavior, etc.) - but he said almost all of them committed another sex crime within a certain amount of time.

63 posted on 11/02/2017 9:31:01 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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To: CJ Wolf

There are those who would see no difference. Not so many years ago another government made some wear yellow stars and tattoos.


64 posted on 11/02/2017 9:34:19 PM PDT by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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To: 21twelve
I don't doubt that at all. A prison admin is going to see the real sex offenders. The sex offender lists however are more like any other government list, No fly list, terrorist watch list, etc. They are so full of inaccuracies as to be mostly useless and in reality contain mostly people that should not be on them and are thus an unjust punishment. Anyone that actually should be on a list likely should not be out of prison to begin with.
65 posted on 11/02/2017 10:27:26 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist

“Anyone that actually should be on a list likely should not be out of prison to begin with.”

Yep.


66 posted on 11/02/2017 11:02:09 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

I say, make the offender a permanent resident in the TombStone “BOOT HILL”, GRAVE YARD.


67 posted on 11/03/2017 5:39:51 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Enlightened1

Guess Hollywood will have to stop filming overseas.


68 posted on 11/03/2017 5:43:26 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: precisionshootist

>>That’s the problem.<<

Well, I am not one to argue simply for the sake of argument, and truthfully I agree with with everything you’ve written on this subject. Nevertheless, if I were the final decision maker regarding punishment for child sex abuse, I would have those found guilty of that crime executed, and no argument regarding reason vs. emotion would dissuade me from that decision.


69 posted on 11/03/2017 7:42:43 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat
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<< Not so many years ago another government made some wear yellow stars and tattoos.<<

Absurd. No equivalency whatsoever.


70 posted on 11/03/2017 7:51:11 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat
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