Posted on 11/06/2017 2:15:54 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
yep that is EXACTLY what is happening in middle class suburban white neighborhoods. Single Soccer Mom dumps anti-anxiety and ADHD meds down her kids throats while intentionally keeping kids away from daddy’s discipline. Then runs out and doctor shops to find some acronym diagnosis for her kid (ODD, ADHD, Autism “spectrum”)
In the minority neighborhoods, much whipping and beating continues out of sheer anger—like an earlier poster said, they should be preaching no spanking to the dems/libs/leftists who don’t (and refuse)to know the difference between legal and illegal alien, think abortion is ok and will beat a kid to death not just spank them out of loving discipline.
—donning asbestos flame suit—
The key word is PROPERLY. This means in love, not in anger, with regret, with the child's best interest at heart, without delay, and appropriate.
Leftists, who have no true love, are incapable of administering proper discipline. Hence, they project their limitations on everyone else.
The Bible in Proverbs is very clear about the importance of such discipline. For example, Proverbs 13:24 (NIV) "Whoever spares the rod hates their children, but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them." The (NKJV) brings out this nuance "he who loves him disciplines him promptly." The anti-spanking movement is at its root an anti-God, man-knows-best idea.
I got it as a kid, and I sure was warned that it would happen if I didn’t make a turnaround. My parents showed care after discipline though.
Just compAre the generations and cultures. This generation kills preborn babies. The previous one fought evil.
That article is dishonestly and subjectively written. Here’s something more conservative. There was a study that included spanking as one of several punishments as contrasted with trying to reason with a misbehaving child.
Do bad ‘authority-figures’ make good parents?
By Dr. Wade F. Horn
http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/horn072998.html
Couldn’t agree more with both of you.
I’ve been an adult for for 45 years. I was a child for 21.
Children need limits. You try to reason with them. You try to modify behavior by removing privileges. When all else fails, you spank.
I was never happy about spanking my children. I realized early in life, if your children don’t respect you (appropriately), they won’t respect others. If they don’t respect others, they won’t respect themselves.
I do not believe in child abuse, but if a person cannot distinguish between appropriate corporal punishment and child abuse, they shouldn’t be in a position of evaluating others when it comes to child abuse.
They simply don’t have the mental faculties to grasp this issue.
Vlad: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3602082/posts?page=16#16
undisciplined kid in store: I WANT it!!
cowering mother: No, honeykins.
cowering mother: sweetie pie, you can have a cookie??!! (begins bargaining)
undisciplined kid in store: (screaming and pulling mom's hair)
I WANT IT NOW!!
"GIVE IT TO ME NOW; I'M TAKING IT!!"
cowering mother: "Stop, it, no, you're hurting mommy!"
Not setting boundaries for your child and making them into a little despot is child abuse--leads to great anxiety in children as they know there is no adult at the helm.
Sounds like the typical brain washed collage educated social worker.
Very cute story!
He warned us that the first slap on the rear end was for the child. Any more was for you.
But spanking is not hitting, nor is it whipping, or using blunt force.
There are a lot of people who don’t know the difference.
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NEEDS to be repeated.
I am colorblind in one eye due to “spanking”...
What was the result? Well, we lost count of number of times that people would come up to our table in a restaurant when our children were little and tell us how wonderful they were and how well behaved they were. It’s because they had a healthy balance of discipline. We let them be kids at home but in public they knew, even when they were 2, that they better behave. There are rules for a polite society and children cannot be reasoned with at times. But the bottom line is this: God’s Holy Word says that there are times when it is appropriate to physically discipline your children. The reason problems arise is because people don’t follow all of God’s Word and forget to love and to raise them according to the tenor of their way (Proverbs 22:6). However, to throw out Gods Word because of sinful people is always the wrong approach. People adjust to God’s Word. We don’t adjust God’s Word because of people.
But, if you are one who believes you can rewrite God’s Word or who doesn’t believe in God to begin with, you’ve got bigger problems than disciplinary issues.
It has been pointed out to you a number of times that God says you are flat out wrong...I would think that since you call yourself a Catholic priest you would listen to him...But obviously not...
That whole thing about “bargaining” with your kids... horrid. I’ve seen people do that, as if a two-year-old (or any kid) has a place at the negotiating table.
And parents will provide a lengthy explanation to their kids why they say and do things. “Because I said so” really is all that’s necessary.
We were spanked on steroids, i.e., abused. Dad had no coping skills or impulse control. The tiniest upset in a day triggered it, and it was 17 years of walking on eggshells. He died in 2008 and none of us siblings has cried yet. (Still waiting.). Mom has had 9 years of happiness.
The good news, not one of us wanted to be one of those basement-dwelling creatures. When we were able to leave, we were GONE and independent.
Thanks; spanking is Bible-approved for a reason!
I have to strongly disagree. Punishment (not in anger) but with an explanation is vital to a proper upbringing. But even so, my father just beat me and my 5 other brothers and sisters in anger and every one of us are normal, productive people with families of our own and no criminal records. An undisciplined child will turn into an undisciplined adult in my experience.
WHEN TO SPANK
For decades, parenting experts have said spanking irreparably harms kids. But a close look at the research suggests otherwise
BY LYNN ROSELLINI
http://www.dadi.org/usn_spnk.htm
They did ZERO original research.
What they did was collect earlier studies and merely did a “meta-analysis” - a statistical analysis, of those studies.
What none of the studies have within them is enough on CONTEXT - why, when, how, parent’s emotion, degree of spanking, ect., ect.
A very high proportion of science “studies” today, particularly in the social sciences, has concluded that correlation equals causation - which it doesn’t.
To Spank or Not to Spank
Larry Elder
http://www.dadi.org/spank.htm
Study muddles spanking controversy
by Cathy Young
http://www.dadi.org/cy-spank.htm
I was spanked as a child, sometimes with the switch. I’ve been paddled in school. Even with all that, I never really adopted the practice for our kids. I’m not sure it works. I don’t think it did in my case. And in the case of our kids, they turned out very well without it.
Couldn’t have been said better.
I have two boys in Marine basic training, a 15 year old daughter that is a model child, and an adopted 13 year old son who is the biological child of a meth addict that used while pregnant. All have been reared using Gods principals and precepts. Very diverse but with the same results.
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