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German army 'plans for break up of the European Union' in war game scenario
Telegraph UK ^ | 6 November 2017 7:56pm

Posted on 11/07/2017 9:29:27 AM PST by BenLurkin

Military planners in Berlin played out a scenario in which a growing number of countries follow Britain in leaving the EU, resulting in an "increasingly disorderly" world, Der Spiegel reported. 

"The EU enlargement has been largely abandoned, more states have left the bloc," strategists wrote in a study cited by the magazine.

"The increasingly disorderly, sometimes chaotic and conflictual world has dramatically changed the security policy environment for Germany and Europe."

Der Speigel said the study could inform German armaments programs in the next several years.

The scenario was one of six examined in a study of security challenges German generals believe could unfold over the next 23 years. 

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Other scenarios envisaged European countries embracing "state capitalism" and a halt to globalization. 

A spokesman for the German Defence Ministry said the study, called Strategic Perspective 2040, made "robust predictions" but did not attach probabilities to them. 

He declined to comment on content of the report, saying it was confidential.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany
KEYWORDS: eu; fourthreich; germany
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Can somebody explain to me how "a halt to globalization" creates an issue for German "security policy"?

And what is "state capitalism"? Any nation which rejects socialism? And how is that a threat to Germany?

1 posted on 11/07/2017 9:29:27 AM PST by BenLurkin
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2 posted on 11/07/2017 9:34:39 AM PST by KC_Lion (If you want on First Lady Melania's, Ivanka Trump's or Sarah Palin's Ping Lists, just let me know.)
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To: BenLurkin

This time, Germany gets to KEEP France!


3 posted on 11/07/2017 9:36:19 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: JimRed

And welcome to it.


4 posted on 11/07/2017 9:37:24 AM PST by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: BenLurkin
1. The concept makes no sense and is not intended to. The whole point is Deutschland Deutschland über alles. Simple as that. Pardon me for guessing that the German army's first task in this crisis will be to invade Austria.

2. "State capitalism" is that collection of nominally private enterprises, regulated by the state, that fulfill the material needs of the people. (To each according to his needs, from each according to their ability.) For a fuller description of this see "The Fascist Doctrine" by Benito Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile.

5 posted on 11/07/2017 9:38:48 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (When trucks are outlawed only outlaws will have trucks,.)
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To: KC_Lion

Disorderly?!?!?

Everybody knows that Germans love order!


6 posted on 11/07/2017 9:39:26 AM PST by glorgau
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To: BenLurkin

I guess the peaceful transition to the fourth reich is out of the question now. Frau merkel and her Brussels cronies now are going to have to rely on the muslim hordes that they unleashed on the EU to do the job for them.


7 posted on 11/07/2017 9:40:32 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it. MAGA!)
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To: BenLurkin

They probably do not have a plan for Visegrád Group armies invading southern Germany to block a northern German Islamic Army from joining forces with the French Islamic Army.


8 posted on 11/07/2017 9:41:42 AM PST by IndispensableDestiny
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To: BenLurkin

The good thing is that if the Germans even try to create a Fourth Reich, the Russians will make most of Germany look like the back side of the Moon...though it’ll glow in the dark.


9 posted on 11/07/2017 9:43:28 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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This time, Germany gets to KEEP France!

That's right! We had France as an ally in the last war. It's their turn now ...

10 posted on 11/07/2017 9:43:37 AM PST by BlueLancer (ANTIFA - The new and improved SturmAbteilung)
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To: BenLurkin

State capitalism is where you admit you need capitalism but you really want socialism. So you manage business and industry to ensure the good of society. Got a bankrupt company With 1000 employees? It will continue producing while the government inputs funds to keep it surviving.


11 posted on 11/07/2017 9:45:22 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: BenLurkin

Once all the Germans were warlike and mean,
But that couldn’t happen again.
We taught them a lesson in 1918
And they’ve hardly bothered us since then.

— Tom Lehrer


12 posted on 11/07/2017 9:45:46 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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To: BenLurkin

Alles vill stayin in der union


13 posted on 11/07/2017 9:46:17 AM PST by truth_seeker
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To: JimRed

And the Muslims will keep both.


14 posted on 11/07/2017 9:47:20 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: BenLurkin

And the sanctioned Muslim invasion is the gunpowder.


15 posted on 11/07/2017 9:50:35 AM PST by headstamp 2 (My "White Privilege" is my work ethic.)
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To: pepsionice

Sounds like the Democrat Party practices here in the US.


16 posted on 11/07/2017 9:53:34 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Ancesthntr

> if the Germans even try to create a Fourth Reich <

Main battle tanks:

Russia: 22,710
Ukraine: 3,784
Germany: 2,500

I suppose that it’s the old quality vs. quantity thing again. But Germany would have trouble with the Ukraine, let alone Russia.

And just for kicks:

United States: 8,725
France: 527
Great Britain: 227

It’s worth noting that Morocco has more main battle tanks (871) than France and Britain, combined.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Military/Army/Main-battle-tanks


17 posted on 11/07/2017 9:55:47 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Leaning Right

Top three European militaries are practically France, Ukraine and Poland is a distant third. Don’t trust German numbers. They might have two thousands tanks on paper but one in ten is actually working and such estimates are actually optimistic.


18 posted on 11/07/2017 10:04:28 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: Leaning Right

I was with a TOW company on the Kuwaiti front in the ‘90 to ‘91 war.
Tell me how many A10s or their equivalent each side has now.


19 posted on 11/07/2017 10:06:22 AM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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" Pardon me for guessing that the German army's first task in this crisis will be to invade Austria."

That will be veeery difficult because ALL the street signs are in Austrian!

20 posted on 11/07/2017 10:09:27 AM PST by crazy scenario ( )
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