Posted on 11/10/2017 4:05:20 PM PST by mdittmar
“Oh, by the way I retired from 25 years teaching in public high school in one of the poorest districts in the country. The business has become a cesspool from the student, teacher and administrator aspects.”
Thank you from your view with inside information.
“I’ve taught over 60 different math courses in my lifetime. I’ve created, or discovered thousands of new mathematic formulas, but I am not qualified to teach at the high school level, because I don’t have a teaching certificate. There is a movment to destroy mathematics in this country to promote stupidity in this country. The left wants mindless stupid voters.”
You would make an excellent math teacher - so of course, our public school system doesn’t want you!
I have a teaching credential in math, physics, and chemistry (former engineer). I saw ‘teachers’ with degrees in PE taking the math competency tests for the 3rd or 4th time when I was taking mine. These tests are only at a 12th grade level!!!! But these would be the ‘teachers’ administrators want because they are already indoctrinated into the liberal camp. They won’t make waves, won’t expect much from the students, will just play the game so they get their pension.
I knew a lady with a masters in math - the real math degree, not the math degree they now offer for teachers only that has limited math courses in it - that couldn’t get a job because she didn’t coach a sport.
lol Six figure salaries. That is why the Republicans get laughed out of town on this subject. A teacher in Florida starts at 30K and the top is 55K. Sorry but sometimes Republicans can be rather snobby when it comes to teachers. Do you think they should have to pay for their own supplies? Especially on such a small amount of pay? Summer vacations are getting shorter and shorter....mid June to mid August. Plus teachers have two weeks before school starts and 2 weeks after school ends so basically they have from July 1 to August 1 off for summer.
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That may be true there, but look at Cincinnati, other cities...bloated salaries...administrators suck up big salaries...they are not needed, but the poor teachers stand in lock step with administrators. NEA first. Tenure instead of performance...Healthcare, dental and pension...sorry, no sympathy here. Perhaps if some were brave and spoke against the focus on recycling, reproduction, reassigned genders, and the administrators, I’d change my mind.
If the NEA is whining about teachers who expense classroom supplies, maybe they should take a look at the overall impact of the tax reduction on the salaries of teachers.
If the take-home income of teachers increases by several thousand dollars as a result of the tax cuts, would they mind buying classroom supplies out of their own pocket?
Or, is it an issue for schools to provide the teachers more input to budget planning?
Half the public school teachers in the USA would probably be unemployed if they were not employed by the government. They should be grateful for their paychecks.
By the way, a great teacher can teach with a stick to draw concepts in the sand…and to use on the posteriors of wayward learners.
Stop the whining. Teachers know the salary game and the conditions before they start down that occupation’s path. If they don’t know then are as stupid as their SAT scores indicate.
Government should not be involved in education at any level. Letting government run most of education was a huge mistake. They are still doing things the way they were 100 years ago, only worse. There is no innovation, no progress. It’s a giant failure.
..I'm sorry but a suspect easy degree, work half the year, never get fired, and short days and they already get paid very well and have excellent benefits and obscene pensions and did you all know they get to have sick leave even working half the year and then get any sick leave left over in a nice fat paycheck when they retire...
and we're supposed to be upset that they buy some colored paper and markers for their classrooms?..
don't they already have a nice little deduction for that in our tax code...
rant over...
You’re one of the fortunate - average per pupil cost for us is $18k, with average class size of 10. Number of students is down 20% over the last decade, but number of teachers and support staff remains constant.
The cost per student for one year in high school is now more than tuition at the University for an in-stater.
I read yesterday that NO student in 13 of Baltimore ‘ s 30 high schools was proficient in math. Great teachers... Everything they do is “for the children “...and they are always overworked and underpaid . Yeah...right.
I didn’t know that, but I do know that CA’s teachers are overpaid.
Just do a search on HOW MUCH OF CALIFORNIA’S BUDGET GOES TO EDUCATION - the actual number is 42%
Proof that the school systems are throwing money away so they can’t afford the essentials and using the “tax breaks” as a way to increase federal funding for a corrupt institution...
Then who should be involved in education?
,,,,, and what is the teacher’s objective ,,, certainly not the three R’s ,, but I do believe public schools have become indoctrination centers with the intent of creating a future communist society just as the Germans used their schools in the 40s to groom the youth .
,,,, just my opine .
Lots of teachers in my school that I volunteer in make 65$ plus. Also 20$ in benefits. Florida
Really???? Wow. I am not a teacher but know quite a few. Have you heard of Lake County? That is where my family lives and they do not make 65K ever. I believe you but just find that you live in a very lucky area of Florida.
I remember when a teacher neighbor of ours was bragging that house smart the person was that handled the California teachers pension fund. He invested most of the money in CA real estate. This was before the crash.
So after that, I believe some sort of state taxes were raised in order to cover the deficit in the pension fund. I don’t remember exactly what though. Taxes were raised so many times on so many things while we lived there, I can’t keep track.
One of many many reasons why I escaped Mexifornia two years ago. The main reason that was the invasion. If I felt like I was living in the United States, we would still be there. It’s a beautiful state with so many outdoor things to do,. I hope one day Americans can reconquer it.
Individual parents, families, grandparents, aunts, uncles, older cousins, neighbors, and......churches.
Remember: Millions upon millions of Catholics were educated though personal donations to their parishes and through the work of dedicated **volunteers** ( AKA nuns, brothers, and priests).
And....Any child who is educated today is being either homeschooled or after schooled by parents, friends, and relatives but the government school will eagerly claim the credit for all the hard work done in the HOME.
I personally go twice a week to teach my grandson Saxon Math. Of course if he attended government school the school would take full credit for his being 3 grades ahead of his peers.
In a perfect world, mom or dad would be home to spend hours after hours teaching the child. Not in our world today. Millions of both moms and dads have to work to make ends meet. What if mom & dad have a marginal educations themselves. Have to pay tuition to attend parochial schools and Christian academies. I know, paid 12 years of tuition to the local Catholic school system, it wasn’t cheap. It was worth the money though, and I could afford it. Not much money, little chance of a good parochial education, it is not free. The church schools and home schooling are viable options for hundreds of thousands of students every year, no doubt about that. But there are millions of children that require education every year, your model will not work on that scale. Public schools do work, when managed at a local level and reasonably funded.
https://ace.nd.edu/news/wichita-parishioners-fund-full-tuition-for-schools
If Catholics can do it Wichita, then Christians and Jews across the U.S. could, too!
I attended tuition-free Catholic elementary and high school. They were funded through donations to the parishes and staffed by volunteers.
It wasn't a perfect world then.
Also....Check on the Witch
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