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Flynn Splits from Trump Lawyers
NY times ^ | November 23, 2017

Posted on 11/23/2017 2:49:06 PM PST by Heff

A Split From Trump Indicates That Flynn Is Moving to Cooperate With Mueller

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To: RummyChick
MARCH 30, 2017 Michael T. Flynn, the former national security adviser, has offered to be interviewed by House and Senate investigators who are examining the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia in exchange for immunity from prosecution, according to his lawyer and a congressional official.

But the congressional official said investigators were unwilling to broker a deal with Mr. Flynn — who resigned last month for misleading White House officials about his contacts with Russia’s ambassador to the United States — until they are further along in their inquiries and they better understand what information Mr. Flynn might offer as part of a deal.

In a statement on Thursday evening, Mr. Flynn’s lawyer confirmed discussions with the House and Senate intelligence committees about possible testimony by his client. The lawyer, Robert Kelner, did not provide specifics about the terms under which Mr. Flynn would testify, but said that “no reasonable person, who has the benefit of advice from counsel, would submit to questioning in such a highly politicized, witch-hunt environment without assurances against unfair prosecution.”

“General Flynn certainly has a story to tell, and he very much wants to tell it, should circumstances permit,” the statement said.

81 posted on 11/23/2017 5:09:36 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

He’s cutting and pasting from here:


It’s from frickin May and from a BLOG.

82 posted on 11/23/2017 5:12:12 PM PST by TexasGurl24
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To: CaptainK

I have always said this is not just about trump..

But like nixon...he may get nailed on the cover this case..obstruction

83 posted on 11/23/2017 5:15:26 PM PST by RummyChick (I have no inside sources, media sources, or federal government employee sources. NONE)
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To: drewh

Thank you for the background info. I had not heard of any serious wrong doing on his part before your information. It is so confusing because the stories shift and transform. Guess I have lots to learn. I trust POTUS and very little else.

What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.

84 posted on 11/23/2017 5:17:43 PM PST by JayGalt (Let Trump Be Trump)
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To: JayGalt

Muller looks like he is trying to pick low hanging fruit here.

85 posted on 11/23/2017 5:21:49 PM PST by drewh
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To: kabar

“LOL. Where did you get this crap?”

Some left wing dunderhead who operates a blog called patribotics.

86 posted on 11/23/2017 5:26:06 PM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: RummyChick; drewh
Sources said that General Flynn did indeed discuss this offense, which was admitted, with FBI agents. However, they reported that after a brief period, a senior official entered the room and confronted General Flynn with knowledge of his wider conspiracy in Russia’s interference in the election. An outline of a case for espionage, a capital crime, where the default penalty is death, was made to Flynn senior, involving both himself and his son Mike Flynn Jr. While sources were not specific, they reported that the conversation involved both men’s knowing propagation, and co-ordination, with the Kremlin, of Russian propaganda, using an Artificial Intelligence ‘data weapon’ precisely to target that propaganda on social media. This technology and the way it was employed is also said to feature in an espionage investigation that is ongoing against Bob Mercer, sources say.

Do you actually believe this story ? Capital crime ?
87 posted on 11/23/2017 5:30:34 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981

we are gonna find out. its looks like Flynns word against everyone else because Mueller has got nothing otherwise, imo.

88 posted on 11/23/2017 5:31:51 PM PST by drewh
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To: drewh

Instead of copy paste how about a link to the source of this crap. They sound like they’re written by leftist conspiracist.

89 posted on 11/23/2017 5:33:18 PM PST by nhwingut (Trump Pence 16 - Blow Up DC)
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To: JonPreston

Not necessarily. Flynn seems to have violated Pennsylvania state laws re: kidnapping. Mueller has been cooperating with Pennsylvania prosecutors. Trump can only pardon for federal offenses.

90 posted on 11/23/2017 5:36:25 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: af_vet_1981

Every single one of us who voted for President Trump face death row if we don’t flip on him!

91 posted on 11/23/2017 5:37:50 PM PST by Rastus
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To: nhwingut
here what the deep state blogs have got. (so we can work against the deluge that is coming) cliffs notes style

Donald Trump:

Countless intelligence agencies, mostly hostile, have hacked Trump’s insecure Android phone. The British, Ukranians and Germans all have recordings of Carter Page in Moscow offering treason for hacking, and recordings of Page playing the tape of Donald Trump in Moscow, wherein Trump promises aunspecified shifts of policy in exchange for hacking help.

This tape was discussed with Sergei Kislyak by Trump, Manafort, Page and Epshteyn. Sergei Kislyak’s phone was ‘hot miked’ through an SS7 exploit by a Five Eyes nation for a portion of last year.

The United Kingdom in particular has a treasure trove of intelligence on Donald Trump. Before Nigel Farage – acting as a courier, sources say – went in to see Julian Assange, Donald Trump called his phone (the previous night). British intelligence taped that conversation, sources say, as Farage was under surveillance, and have provided the resulting fresh evidence to the USIC.

Julian Assange’s conversations about Trump and with his couriers are all on tape. British intelligence and the NSA have been inside the Ecuadorean Embassy for some time. There is disbelief, sources report, in many conversations between the two closest intelligence partners in the world, America and Britain, at how stupid the Russians and Ecuadoreans have been to believe Julian Assange’s pitiable assertions that his communications were ever secure.

Vladimir Putin

Vladimir Putin, for the avoidance of doubt, was recorded by both British intelligence and private allied intelligence firms of more than one nation, directly ordering an attack on the United States election. This recording was given to the Washington Post, and they held it back out of respect for US intelligence.

Donald Trump Jr

Donald Trump Jr was directly taped by the French before the election, colluding with the Russians. As with all NATO allies who are not part of the Five Eyes agreement, there is no legal reason why they cannot directly tape Americans abroad. The FBI would need permission with a FISA warrant to listen to any such intelligence on U.S. persons.

Eric Trump

The SIGINT on Eric Trump is mostly held by the United States. Eric, who is not loved by his father nearly as much as his sister Ivanka, has been left holding the baby on the Kelhios botnet. As his father tries to scrub Ivanka from Trump holding companies, he has left Eric in place to take the hit. The Kelhios botnet was delivered from Trump Tower by a command and control center activated by Eric Trump.

However, the United Kingdom also holds SIGINT on Eric Trump, because it had ears on the Alfa Bank boardroom, and Eric’s communications with Alfa Bank washed through the server in Trump Tower and the Spectrum Health server were intercepted by the NSA – as all the packet data was – but the UK owned the phones, computers and boardrooms on the Russian end, so has ‘written’ SIGINT on Eric Trump.

Ivanka Trump

Ivanka Trump is on tape with multiple unnamed allied intelligence services over hotel fraud in Baku, sources report. She is on tape talking to her husband Jared about the hack on America. Most significantly and recently Australia has Ivanka Trump on tape talking with the Chinese, who allied with Russia in its attempt to hack America. Australian intelligence were grossly insulted by Bannon and Schiller when Nick Warner, the head of Australia’s ASD, their CIA equivalent, underwent a cavity search at the US border on a diplomatic passport. Trump deliberately leaked his insults to the Australian PM on an early diplomatic call. Australia is taking a quiet delight in knowing that they have the most damning evidence against Trump’s golden child Ivanka Trump, whom, sources say, is not “complicit” in standing by for criminality but is an active participant in it.

Mike Pence

The SIGINT on Mike Pence, and there is a lot of it, is held mainly by the USIC. Russia holds extensive kompromat on Pence, having hacked his emails to keep him in line.

Paul Ryan

Again, SIGINT on Ryan is the near-exclusive preserve of the USIC and RIS (Russian Intelligence Services).

Mitch McConnell

Almost exclusively American intelligence on McConnell, with, among enemy nations, Iran and Russia both having a good deal of their own.

Trey Gowdy

SIGINT on Gowdy is extensive from the USIC but also Great Britain, in that Britain still gathers intelligence in her overseas territories like the British Virgin Islands.

Devin Nunes

Portugal’s intelligence service has had Devin Nunes on tape for quite some time. He is a Long-time colluder with Russia. When Nunes ran to the White House in the dead of night it is because he saw his own name legally unmasked in those transcripts. Nunes would love to make a deal but the FBI is not interested.

Mike Flynn

Flynn, who is as delusional as he is dishonorable, was taped by almost every European intelligence service. Great Britain has extraordinary amounts of SIGINT on Flynn, as it has been gathering intel on the Russian spy ring at Cambridge for some years now. Flynn’s role in the Russian hack is under-appreciated. He is one of the greatest traitors in American history, and his treason far pre-dates the present lunatic operation of Vladimir Putin.

Mike Flynn Jr

One consideration motivating Flynn’s extensive squealing to the USIC – he has no more loyalty to his fellow criminals than he had to the United States – is his desire to spare the life of his son Mike Jr. The younger Flynn, currently under investigation for espionage, traveled with his father to Russia for RT, coordinated with Sputnik operatives like Cassandra Fairbanks in the US, and pushed RIS propaganda and malware. He was taped in Russia by Great Britain as part of MI6’s wholescale ownership of all Kremlin comms – that is to say that the UK listened to the remote and local mikes on any Russian with whom Flynn jr was conversing – but most SIGINT on Flynn Jr is held in America.

Steve Bannon

Mostly held by the USA and Russia. Bannon has been a Russian asset of medium significance for at least five years.

Reince Priebus Sergei Kislyak was under surveillance by the NSA throughout 2016. The NSA has SIGINT on Reince Priebus resulting from this, that is extensive, and now in possession of the FBI.

Jared Kushner

Various hostile intelligence agencies have SIGINT on Kushner; the UK and US recorded him in the Russian Embassy when he was discussing his ‘back channel’ to Russia. The Russian Embassy to the United States in Washington D.C. is Russian sovereign territory. Although the UK is barred by the Five Eyes agreement from spying on US soil, the Russian Embassy is not US soil. Again Sergei Kislyak’s phone was hot miked and was recording everybody it came into contact with.

Erik Prince

At least the UK and the USA have Prince on SIGINT. He was intimately connected with the Carolina Conspiracy and with the Alfa Bank and Spectrum Health servers. The ‘back channel’ to Russia is those servers. Prince was deeply involved with the Carolina Conspiracy.

Betsy DeVos

Is on SIGINT by the USA and UK in relation to the use of the Spectrum Health server. It is important to say here that Ms. De Vos herself is a suspect, according to sources with links to the intelligence community.

Maria Putin

The daughter of Vladimir Putin. She heads an endocrinology charity. Michigan’s facility, where the Spectrum Health server was located, is an endocrinology center. I reported in my Nov 7th 2016 report on the two FISA warrants, which Naveed Jamali publicly tweeted he was a source for, that Putin’s own daughters were involved in the activities of the server.

Oleg Deripaska

As a Russian, Deripaska is on SIGINT with multiple foreign allies including the UK and France. Mr. Deripaska particularly hates Hillary Clinton, who denied his visa to America in 2009. I reported some of this SIGINT in my recent piece about Sheriff Clarke being taped in Russia with associates of Deripaska, ordered to attack Black Lives Matter. Mr. Deripaska runs many assets in the United States, in the media. He is on SIGINT over the Carolina Conspiracy, as are some of his associates who are American. He is on SIGINT over Putin’s daughters and the Alfa and Spectrum servers.

Jack Posobiec

Mr. Posobiec, sources with links to US intelligence report, is a Russian agent of influence who has been working with Rebel Media. He boasted of publishing the “Macron Leaks” that turned out to be fake. France’s DGSE, or CIA equivalent, hacked Rebel Media’s server in Canada. They discovered material relating to the Carolina Conspiracy that forced the Comey letter. They have all Mr. Posobiec’s communications with Erik Prince, Oleg Deripaska’s agents in the media in the USA, Team Treason as well as Sputnik and various hackers.

Sources were not specific about who precisely is implicated in France’s wholesale lift of Rebel Media’s servers, but indicated that the net is pretty broad, and that more or less everybody in Trump Russia is involved.

Sources report that Rebel Media was involved as Russia’s agents of influence in the Carolina Conspiracy that forced James Comey’s letter. All of the subsequent intelligence from those servers has gone to the USIC, sources report. This forms a companion piece to France’s recordings of Donald Trump Jr. talking to Russian agents in France before his father was inaugurated.

Paul Manafort

Mr. Manafort was taped by Estonia in April discussing how Russian money could be washed into Donald Trump’s campaign. Manafort, has proved a rich vein of SIGINT especially on Mike Pence.

Carter Page

As I reported, Carter Page took a tape of Donald Trump to Moscow promising policy shifts in exchange for hacking help.

Ukraine and Germany both directly hacked Page’s phone. Not known if they were able to hot-mike it. Germany holds a treasure trove of Carter Page SIGINT, because they are not bound by the Five Eyes agreement.

The United Kingdom also has recordings of Carter Page in Moscow discussing the hacking of the election with Sechin, Diveykin and others. The Five Eyes agreement prevents the UK from directly hacking Americans abroad without a legal arrangement with the USA, such as a request and a FISA warrant. However, the UK routinely records Russians inside the Kremlin and their boardrooms. UK surveillance on the Russian end, both official and by private firms, captured everything Page said in Russia, and captured him playing the tape of Mr. Trump’s words, sources said.

92 posted on 11/23/2017 5:37:56 PM PST by drewh
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To: drewh
The wording of the article seems like the extreme far left ranting of DNC/Hillary/GPS Fusion. Do you seriously believe the article you are pushing that some senior Intel official imagine a senior official entered the room and threatened General Flynn and his son with the death penalty because President Trump won the rigged election he was not supposed to win ?

It sounds like it was written by a left wing nut.
93 posted on 11/23/2017 5:38:26 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: sam_whiskey

Flynn and his son apparently concocted a plan to kidnap a Turkish dissident living in Pennsylvania. Since that’s a state crime, Trump would be unable to pardon him... thus incentivizing a plea deal w Mueller.

94 posted on 11/23/2017 5:38:34 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: af_vet_1981

Here is what I believe. Flynn and manafort go down unless they cooperate

Zarrab is likely cooperating
Sater is a known snitch who has worked with weissman before and will likely cough someone up..even if it is just the guy they are trying to extradite to US

Dont know about podesta

Trump jr and kushner will be on the hot seat..throwing each other under the bus

It may or may not get to trump

Dont know if flynn leads to pence

95 posted on 11/23/2017 5:40:19 PM PST by RummyChick (I have no inside sources, media sources, or federal government employee sources. NONE)
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To: Alter Kaker

They can all go AllRed and just start making stuff up

96 posted on 11/23/2017 5:40:49 PM PST by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: RummyChick

cant see Kushner, Eric or Don Jr flipping. Its Flynn/Zarrab against the world...

97 posted on 11/23/2017 5:42:42 PM PST by drewh
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To: Heff
Thomas Wictor is one of the best commentators on the internet. Formatting twitter stuff is horrible so apologies for any mistakes.

(1) Let's talk about this.

(2) Did you know that there's no such crime as "collusion"?
What Is Collusion? Is It Even a Crime?

(4) @GenFlynn discussed sanctions with Russian ambassador Sergei Kislyak.
The FBI cleared Flynn of wrongdoing.

FBI found no wrongdoing in Flynn’s calls with Russia: report An FBI review of communications between Russia’s ambassador to the U.S.

(5) I don't know General Flynn. But he was aware he was being recorded.
He was the former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA).
Flynn is a spook.

(6) The Trump administration is airtight when it comes to NATIONAL SECURITY LEAKS.
I can't PROVE anything, but I'm guessing that our military capabilities would blow off your socks.

(7) The Air Force's 'rods from god' could hit with the force a nuclear weapon — but with no fallout

A bundle of telephone-pole-size tungsten rods, dropped from orbit, reaching up to 10 times the speed of sound.

(8) This is called "kinetic bombardment."

(9) This video is entirely unexplained. We don't know the target, the weapon, or the armed force that used it.

[Click link at top to view video, can't bring it.]

(10) The munition left a trail of superheated air.
I think it was a Rod From God.
Kinetic bombardment.

(10) Back to Russia and Flynn and Trump.

(11) There's nothing THERE.
Nobody can put the squeeze on General Flynn, because he DIDN'T DO ANYTHING.

(12) And General Flynn can't "flip" on Trump, because TRUMP DIDN'T DO ANYTHING.

(13) General Flynn is a surfer.
Maybe he can flip like THIS.

[Surfing clip can't bring it.]

(14) As an aside, General Flynn, HOW CAN YOU STAND THE SURFING CULTURE?

(I am skipping a few tweets about surfing.)

(16) You're only three years older than me, and you're a spook.

(17) At any rate, Trump isn't going to jail, because he didn't commit any crimes.
General's Flynn's lawyers were forced to debunk the LAST demented accusations. We've been playing with this junk for over a year now.

(18) Maybe everybody should just ignore this stuff.
You'll find out what's happening eventually.
Why work yourself up into a state of hysteria?

(19) Happy Thanksgiving, General Flynn.

I'm thankful for patriots like you...

98 posted on 11/23/2017 5:43:20 PM PST by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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Here's another Wictor Flynn discussion from Nov. 11. It isn't "unrolled" so it is the very devil to try to format, therefore I am just posting a link. If I have time later, I'll post it.

The first comment:

(1) @GenFlynn has no record whatsoever of wrongdoing.
He spent 33 years in the US Army and became the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA).

99 posted on 11/23/2017 5:45:45 PM PST by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: drewh

I can see both jr and kushner flipping. .on each other

Flynn can get you kushner...

Norm eisen said he has worked a plea deal before with mueller...flynn will have to give up trump...Jr..or kushner

Didnt mention pence

100 posted on 11/23/2017 5:46:40 PM PST by RummyChick (I have no inside sources, media sources, or federal government employee sources. NONE)
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