Posted on 12/30/2017 9:30:48 AM PST by mojito
He’s lying to you. He wants you to think that Mueller is working for Trump, and that Flynn pleaded guilty on purpose, when nothing could be further from the truth.
Mueller’s plan is to accuse the President with obstruction of justice, using evidence he illegally obtained from wiretaps based on a phony FISA warrant, and e-mails he illegally obtained from the President’s transition team.
The case against Trump will go something like this - Flynn broke the Logan Act, a law that’s never been successfully prosecuted in the history of our country, but does state that a citizen of the country cannot speak to the leaders of foreign governments, to try to disrupt the current policy of the US government. Yes, this goes on all the time. And yes, Flynn was part of the incoming administration, and Obama’s staff even approved his calls to Russia. But it does now appear that Flynn did discuss ways of breaking the ongoing sanctions against Russia, if they would vote a certain way with regard to Israel, on the phone with their ambassador, which could technically possibly be a Logan Act violation.
At this same time, the press was already beating the drums of the Logan Act, with regard to Trump’s public statements about the sanctions and Russia. This media drumbeat is what caused Flynn to lie to the FBI, and claim that he did not speak about the sanctions, when the wiretap was in place. The FBI interview was supposed to be a routine interview for an incoming National Security Advisor, so he wasn’t even put under oath, but they got Flynn to not admit to speaking with Russia about the sanctions during the questioning. Deep State Sally Yates immediately notified Trump, who then fired Flynn. Trump then met with Comey and said he “hoped” they would drop the Logan Act and lying charges, based on Flynn’s service to the country and already public humiliation of being fired. When Comey refused, Trump fired him for it, they say.
Understand I’m not saying I agree with any of that, but Mueller is going to use it to make an obstruction of justice charge against Trump. This is the main and only card they have to play, that Trump was trying to prevent the charges against Flynn, that Flynn later admitted to. Meanwhile most know that Flynn only pleaded to lying after they threatened to charge his son with illegal lobbying if he didn’t.
Deep State tools like Imperator Rex don’t want you to know any of this. They want you to believe that Flynn actually WANTED to be arrested, as ridiculous as that is. They want you to believe that Mueller is after Hillary, as bizarre as that obviously is. They are doing everything they can to get you to believe that Mueller is a good guy, that Trump is completely safe, and that what I just posted to you isn’t ever discussed on their threads.
You have no idea what is the truth and what is not regarding Gen. Flynn. YOu have no clue, yet you type words as though you have personal knowledge of this situation.
But you don’t.
You have NO IDEA what the truth is.
Unless you are a friend or legal advisor to Flynn. And/or are working in the DoJ/FBI on this.
Are any of the above true???
Tell us.
Because if none of the above are true, YOU HAVE NO EFFING CLUE and yet you make constant comments accusing people of lying. Which you cannot do with any veracity unless you have inside info.
DO YOU HAVE INSIDE INFO? YES OR NO?
I have enough personal first hand knowledge to know that when Imperator Rex and his followers say that Flynn wanted to be arrested, because that would waive his DoD Non-Disclosure Agreements, it is an outright lie. Those NDA’s aren’t waived by anyone but by the individual security officers responsible for protecting that information. And Flynn would have probably signed a lot of different ones. There’s really no way they would waive them all just so that a jury of common citizens could be briefed on any of that information.
If you’d rather believe some trickster if not Deep State disinformation team on Twitter, then that’s your prerogative. Just don’t expect it to not be questioned by those who know better, and tried to show you the truth.
This is some weak sauce by the deep state scumbags to move this away from Fusion GPS & the truth. Still....it does show that the deep state is not just going to give up. They are active & backed into a corner. Makes this situation very dangerous.
Hysterical. Coming from a guy who gets his info from "imperator rex" LOL.
Sounds like Australian deep staters are helping their buddies in the US deep state by backing up a made up story as to why they were surveilling a rival candidate.
While I read everyone’s argument on its merit, I am not nearly as dismissive of Imperator Rex3 as you are.
To me, the argument that Flynn needed to be arrested to expose the dossier sham can make sense, though I am no lawyer to dispute the fine details. In particular, having a prosecution based on the fake FISA warrant makes the dossier crime much more elevated than if there was no “legal damage” that could be shown to have arisen from the FISA warrant.
The Imperator Rex claim is far beyond that, unless he just recently changed it. His claim has long been there is a secret plan by Trump and Mueller and Flynn etc to use Mueller's team to go after Hillary, not Trump and his associates. Yes, I'll say it again, since it's so off the wall - he/they believe that Mueller is actually going after Hillary, not Trump.
According to the scheme, Flynn needed to plead guilty, so that his DoD NDA's would all magically be invalidated (they wouldn't), so that Flynn would then be free to testify against Hillary and/or Obama.
Or something close to that. It changes by the day as they get exposed as phonies, but usually comes to basically the same.
One interesting subplot in this situation is that we have for the most part “lost Drudge”. It’s become obvious that since the election he has been backing away from conservatives & Trump. Most of us can guess why considering his lifestyle and what the deep state has on him, but it has not helped the good guys that he is essentially AWOL.
Exactly!
To me the Trump colludes with Putin BS always a big league op done by perhaps the company.Main Goal was to divert attention away from the the DNC/Hillary/Podesta OKing the hit on Seth Rich who did the hacking not the ruskies.
Also, the Russian BS was also designed to get minds/us off all the jeopardy of 650k e mails that Huma evidently forgot she was duping onto her laptop that got into the wrong hands.
This is also why the NYPD was so outraged at what they saw and why now the head of the NYPD is finally "retiring"my guess for stalling any investigation into hillarys 650 k emails.
If the deep staters could get us chasing our tails over fake news for months at t time and meanwhile they drove Trumps numbers into the toilet over more fake news it was a huge win for the criminal left for some time.But like all lies they eventually out. This NYT piece is a last salvo to save hillarys bacon and ressurect an op that they have mucho invested in.
It's a convoluted POS about as complex as you can get but a lot of diversion there and the Russia stuff was and still is nothing but made up crap.
Just a guess: I'm thinking that Comey is one of the major sources for this story. But as I think about it, the more the claims in this story unravel, and for one central, indisputable reason: If the FBI thought that Papadopolous' drunken boasting had direct bearing on the "hack" of the DNC server, why did the FBI not DEMAND that the DNC turn over the server for forensic analysis, instead of relying on claims made by a DNC-paid vendor that "Russia" was behind the data breaches? And neither the FBI, nor Mueller, have ever examined the DNC servers. And that my friend, is what they call in poker a "tell."
The Greek guy better stick to drizzling honey and rose water on his grandma ‘s dessert.
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........... what a pile of manure.
(But at least manure is useful.)
Yup....and there are some gaps in this story we are yet to be privy to. There are also some players who have still not showed their hand.
While I respect IR3’s logic, I, like you, do not see Mueller as being on the Trump team. However, I do see Mueller boxed in by the fact that every move by him and his team are monitored by IG Horowitz of whom we learned recently. It was the IG, for example, that notified Mueller about Strzok’s malfeasance over the summer, getting him removed from Mueller’s team. It was the IG that got the goods on Weissmann and got him removed.
I think much of IR3’s logic remains intact, even if Mueller is not part of the Hillary take-down.
As to the NDAs, I think the point is that, if questioned under oath, the NDA’s do not apply, so that Flynn would be free to tell all.
All in all, I think one can take something from many of these factoid/timeline aggregators like IR3, even if one doesn’t accept their full premise.
here’s some info from that post #51:
“George Papadopoulos is most likely a Hillary plant from the git go. He even worked for Hillary’s State Dept in 2011!”
And here’s what I posted in #59
“https://twitter.com/Imperator_Rex3/status/947185141306101760
“I like this guy.”
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Interesting stuff, isn’t it? Some people think it’s interesting...
I admire your passion to plea your case, but last I heard, this place is for people to share ideas and opinions. You’re discounting other users’ opinions here.
Senator ... and there is Joe Wilson, Diplomat.
My point was the overheard conversation could have been about the Iraq discovery of ‘yellowcake’, not necessarily anything new.
The dossier was a fake attempt to destroy Trump, and is now exposed....
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