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Supreme court agrees to consider internet sales taxes
NBC News ^ | Jan 12 2018, 5:55 PM ET | Pete Williams

Posted on 01/14/2018 9:15:09 AM PST by Olog-hai

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To: Olog-hai

Start a thread about eliminating social security. I doubt you’ll be surprised with the number of posters that support their brand of socialism.


61 posted on 01/14/2018 11:05:31 AM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: randomhero97

I’ve seen that before. Medicare also. The country survived without either for a very long time.

It’s like the Brits who try to argue against the abolition of NHS. It all rings hollow.


62 posted on 01/14/2018 11:07:41 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Ancesthntr

Almost right. I think they’re obligated to collect sales tax in states where they have a physical presence, but they also collect tax on items they sell (ships from and sold by Amazon), in states that have an internet sales tax. If it’s a third party seller, they’re not obligated to collect sales tax for that seller.


63 posted on 01/14/2018 11:07:45 AM PST by Kanakabaraka
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To: Rockingham

In 2016, SCOTUS allowed Colorado’s Amazon tax to stand. Online retailers can either collect sales tax or keep records of customers’ purchases and file reports on each customer at the end of the year, along with providing the customers with tax reports if they’ve spent over $500.


64 posted on 01/14/2018 11:15:23 AM PST by Kanakabaraka
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To: Olog-hai
You're obviously aware of sales taxes. Sales taxes can be based on the sales tax rate where the business selling the products is located or where the buyer is located.

At no time did Amazon not have some physical location. The idea that their products somehow magically materialized off the internet is nonsense.

From the very beginning all products purchased on-line should have either been taxed based on the buyer's location or the location of Amazon's HQ or distribution centers.

Governments looked the other way because the poor little internet was so fwagile (or they were getting bribes ... er political contributions ... from poor little internet companies).

The same thing happened with Napster. It was always a copyright infringement for people to download songs for free from the internet. Just because the government chose not to enforce the law for a long time didn't mean it was legal or ethical.

Likewise speeding laws which are generally poorly enforced. Likewise federal laws against marijuana that have gone unenforced for years.

Sales taxes may be a bad idea, as well as copyright laws, and the federal laws against marijuana distribution but they should be faced head on, and not evaded by scofflaws.

If the government were more draconian about enforcing the laws on the books, then more people would rise up to ask for smaller government. States are now just recently revising their marijuana laws because the feds did ramp up the war on drugs to mostly ill effect resulting in a backlash.

We need to stop falling for the pseudo-hipster arguments that allow internet-based products and services to be treated differently than brick-and-mortar-based products and services. Uber and Lyft should have to follow the same regulations and taxation as taxi services. AirBnB should have to follow the same regulations as hotels.

The hope is that rather than overregulating and overtaxing the internet, the government will be forced to ratchet down the regulation on everything else.

65 posted on 01/14/2018 11:30:49 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: ridesthemiles

Don;t forget municipal sales taxes too.


66 posted on 01/14/2018 11:38:32 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: Kanakabaraka

A denial of certiorari in the Supreme Court does not set a precedent. In the new case, the Supreme Court could easily announce a holding and reasoning that reaches a contrary conclusion based on the unique administrative burden imposed on online retailers.


67 posted on 01/14/2018 11:44:00 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: Olog-hai

Money, money, money, money.


68 posted on 01/14/2018 11:48:23 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Rockingham

Good to know.


69 posted on 01/14/2018 11:59:30 AM PST by Kanakabaraka
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To: Spok

This is the DNC way of undoing the tax cuts - just tax something else.


70 posted on 01/14/2018 12:05:29 PM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

We need to stop falling for the pseudo-hipster arguments that allow internet-based products and services to be treated differently [from] brick-and-mortar-based products and services. Uber and Lyft should have to follow the same regulations and taxation as taxi services. AirBnB should have to follow the same regulations as hotels. …
That is giving the nod to big government, ultimately; no hipsters ever present such an argument against big government. When you ratchet up the regulation and taxation on the competition to these overregulated “brick and mortar” legacy services, the regulation is never, ever going to be ratcheted down on anything. Reagan’s philosophy on taxation showed that the government’s precious tax revenue goes up when all businesses’ taxes go down, due to increased commerce being encouraged by the prices going down.
71 posted on 01/14/2018 3:22:43 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: COUNTrecount

What state are you in?


72 posted on 01/14/2018 5:28:57 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: SgtHooper
Yes, it is not fair for the B&M retailer. I have purchased guns locally at a higher price to simply support the local retailer. However, most purchases were online to cut out the sales tax. Ammo shipping costs versus local tax were always determined. But if the cost was close, why not take the front door delivery.

Actually, it's probably less 'fair' for online, especially Amazon. As of FEB2017, Amazon collects sales taxes in 38 states. (Five states have no sales taxes.) And, they have to charge shipping, or eat that cost. Texas is generally 8.25%, so a $100 purchase is $8 in tax. Most shipping I've paid is around $6-8. So most smaller purchases actually probably favor your BnM stores in terms of cost. So then it's more a fight between front-door pickup vs driving to the store, and waiting from a day to a week vs instant in-your-hands.
73 posted on 01/14/2018 6:49:50 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: outofsalt

I’m just telling you how it is determined whether or not a seller has to charge sales tax. You raised a whole other issue, which is an issue regarding monopolistic practices.


74 posted on 01/14/2018 8:27:50 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: KyCats

Agree.


75 posted on 01/14/2018 8:30:33 PM PST by MarMema
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To: Ancesthntr

I think Amazon decided to just charge sales taxes everywhere whether they had a presence or not to keep the Fed’s off their neck.

I now make all big dollar purchases from other outlets that continue to be tax free, or if not possible will purchase at brick and mortar and demand they match Amazon’s price and provide free delivery.


76 posted on 01/14/2018 8:40:25 PM PST by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES-THELIBERTYDAILY.COM)
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To: unixfox

New Judge blocks that.


77 posted on 01/15/2018 10:04:44 AM PST by raiderboy ( "...if we have to close down our government, weÂ’re building that wall" DJT)
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