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1 posted on 01/18/2018 7:59:22 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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No matter how old (or new) they are, and no matter who made them, fighter jets still look “futuristic”.


2 posted on 01/18/2018 8:06:13 PM PST by adorno
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Another serious weakness was thick windshield framing that reduced forward visibility, a problem during combat.


I wonder what drove the need for such thick framing? That seems like something that would have been redesigned at some point in its long service life. The fact that it wasn’t makes me think there was something fundamental about the airframe that required it.


3 posted on 01/18/2018 8:09:22 PM PST by Yardstick
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MiG-21 cocktail:

Mix 1.5 oz. single-malt Scotch with .75 oz. Drambuie.
Pour over ice and add a lemon twist.

6 posted on 01/18/2018 8:42:32 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: sukhoi-30mki
One of the most cool looking airplanes ever designed.

Would like to read a western pilot's account of what they are like to fly.

8 posted on 01/18/2018 9:04:25 PM PST by doorgunner69 (Give me the liberty to take care of my own security..........)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

That livery looks like something out of a Chris Foss painting!


9 posted on 01/19/2018 2:22:54 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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“In Vietnam, they racked up dozens of kills during the eight years they fought against U.S. Air Force and U.S. Navy jets. Although heavily outnumbered, the small MiGs evaded U.S. radar and ambush formations with hit-and-run attacks in which some U.S. jets, including top-of-the-line F-4 Phantoms, were downed or forced to jettison their bomb loads and abort their missions.”

One of the patterns of aerial warfare that repeats itself is how a smaller airforce can rack-up disproportionate Kill-Loss ratios against a numerically superior enemy. Examples:
RAF Fighter Command vs. Luftwaffe (Battle of Britain), Luftwaffe v. Red Air Force (eastern front), Cactus Air Force v. Japanese 1st Air Fleet (Solomons), US Fighter-Interceptor-Wings v. ‘North Korean’ airforce (1951-53).

Call it a target-rich environment, or the airborne version of guerrilla warfare.


10 posted on 01/19/2018 4:01:30 AM PST by Tallguy
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Which soviet fighter is ‘more iconic’ the MiG 15 or Mig 21? Close call, I would say.

The Mig 21 is getting the ‘long farewell’ treatment in the Press because a lot of countries are making the decision to retire them, whereas the MiG 15 is already ‘gone’.


12 posted on 01/19/2018 4:19:22 AM PST by Tallguy
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