Skip to comments.Donít Talk to Mueller, Mr. President
Posted on 01/24/2018 2:07:19 PM PST by Kaslin
RUSH: The biggest news (the Drive-Bys would have us believe) today is the fact that the special counsel, Mueller, wants to question Donald Trump. Thats the biggest news because they think theres no way that Trump can refuse, and they think that Trump cannot avoid lying. Trump lies when his lips move, and therefore Mueller could get a process crime, and we might be able to get rid of Trump before the end of the year. Thats their dream, all of it predicated to Trump sitting down for an interview with Mueller.
RUSH: There are conflicting opinions on whether or not Trump has to talk to Mueller, whether he should. He shouldnt. If you ask me, dont do it. I dont care what format, I dont care what circumstance, dont do it. Theres nothing to gain. Especially if theyre off the collusion business, theres nothing to gain by talking to Mueller. But I was watching Professor Dershowitz today, and Professor Dershowitz made it sound like theres no way Trump can get out of it.
Judge Napolitano, I thought, was saying much the same thing. But then theres part of me saying, Well, claim executive privilege? Itd be a bad move politically. He could essentially By claiming exec-privilege, what are you doing, pleading the fifth? Screw you? Trump could, Im under the impression, say, You want to talk to me? Fine. Youre fired. Get out of here. Im not talking to you. Im your boss. I dont work for you. Scram! Youre making a mess of everything anyway. Get outta here. Cant do that. That wouldnt be politically wise. So I dont know.
RUSH: The big news of the day, according to the Drive-Bys, is that the independent counsel wants to question Trump. Now, weve know This has been circulating out there for a couple weeks, but theyre acting like, Wow. This is it. This is the big news drop of the day. This has been circulating out there for at least two weeks that Mueller has been thinking about or intending to or wants to interview Trump.
And what we learned today from the Drive-Bys is that Mueller apparently wants to ask Trump about the Michael Flynn situation and the firing of Comey. Now, if thats true and its a big if. But if thats true, it indicates that Mueller is on to the obstruction portion of the investigation and may have set aside the collusion angle, meaning the allegation that Trump colluded with Putin to steal the election from Hillary.
Now, unless the media is purposely misleading here, it would seem to be that if thats what Mueller wants to talk to Trump about and not collusion It would make sense. There wasnt any! I mean, everybody knows by now. Everybody knows. You wont find the Drive-Bys admitting it point-blank, but everybody knows that that whole gambit of the Trump dossier and Trump stealing the election by working with the Russians, there was never anything to that. It was an attempt. They did their best to make it a real thing.
They did their best to make people believe it. They did their best to force Trump out of office and people leave his employ and so forth, but its clear. The only indictments that have occurred against people not anywhere near that time frame. The Manafort indictments from 2016. This is nothing to do with collusion. Now, in my layman existence here I mean, I know a little bit more about the law because my dad was a lawyer and my cousins, uncles and stuff were judges.
And I know a lot of big time, famous lawyers now. But I would not profess to be a legal expert. It seems to me that this is a process crime/perjury trap, and if I were Trumps lawyers, I wouldnt let him get anywhere near this! In the first place, Trump improvises as he goes. You know, if the interview is just with Trump and his lawyers in a relaxed setting with Mueller and his anti-Trump investigators, thats one thing.
But if its a grand jury appearance which I dont think it is yet. But if its a grand jury appearance, then Trumps lawyers cant go in there (snorts) and you tell one little lie in there and you are done. Youre under oath, and you have no assistance. You have no aides. You have nobody in there that can help you. You have nobody in there to tell the prosecute he cant ask the question, cause the prosecutor owns the grand jury.
So, no, you dont do that. If its just an interview This may surprise some people. If its just I say relaxed. If its just an interview in somebodys office and you have Mueller and a couple of his investigators and Trump and his lawyer even if the session is not formally under oath, they can still circle back and get you for lying to them, if they think that you have. Even though it isnt under oath. If you agree to this kind of a sit down.
So Mueller wants to ask Trump why he fired Comey and why he fired Flynn. You can see what kind of trap this is. Trump doesnt owe anybody an explanation on this. But there are still people who think that they can force one out of him. I would also reject the offer, if its made which I dont think it would be. But theres a possibility that Trumps lawyers could say, You know, well do this, but we want it in writing. You submit your questions in writing, and then well answer them in writing.
And while some people think that would be the best way to go because theres no pressure You have the questions in front of you, and then you write your answers down and you review them. You edit them, and you dont submit them until you are fully, fully confident that what you want to say and what you dont want to say is in your answer. The problem, again, in my laymans view of this is those written answers whoever writes them are, for legal purposes, written by Donald Trump.
And anything he writes down can then be used as a springboard for any other avenue or branch of the investigation. That points up another thing. They have If Trumps gonna do this, they had better get some really serious limitations on scope, on time. Okay. You want to talk to me about Flynn and you want to talk to me about Kelly. But were not talking about the dossier. Were not They can try to set the parameters. I just think its a rotten idea. Its just a perjury trap, and this is the benefit of the doubt, but even if Muellers not setting it up as a perjury trap, it still is one.
They dont have anything on Trump colluding with the Russians, and even if they did, thats not a crime. They dont have any evidence that the election was rigged, that Trump knew about it and worked with the Russians. They dont have any evidence. So why would you give them another avenue to come at you? Which is, of course, this obstruction angle. Now, some in the Drive-By Media are speculating that this request from Mueller to talk to Trump about Kelly and firing Comey could mean that Mueller is near wrapping up his investigation.
But again, I am on record as having said that I dont think Muellers gonna wrap this up much before the midterm elections. The whole point of this is to get rid of Trump! Now, I also heard Professor Dershowitz today. He was on Fox. He was specifically asked about Mueller. He said (paraphrased), Look. Im gonna tell you what I really think. I dont think Mueller cares where this goes. I dont think Mueller cares whether Trumps innocent or guilty or Hillarys guilty or innocent. I dont think he cares.
Hes just gonna take it to where it ends up. He doesnt care. Hes a Republican, hes a long-standing Republican, and hes one of these guys thats just gonna follow the evidence wherever it goes, and where it goes, thats where it is, and thats what happens. Hes not got a significant amount of prejudice or bias here. Well, that may be, but it cant be said of his investigators. Hes got 16 well, now maybe 15 since Strzok is gone.
But hes got 15 virulently anti-Trump people working for him who would no doubt be in on any kind of an interview, sit-down, Q&A. I was a little taken aback. I have no reason to doubt Professor Dershowitz, but I find it difficult for any human being to be that detached. A thinking, engaged human being who cares about the outcome of events every other day of the year, I just find it really hard to believe that anybody that informed, educated, engaged can then have an ambivalent attitude about where an investigation the ends up.
But thats what were led to believe. Were led to believe that law enforcement is exactly that; theyre unprejudiced, theyre unbiased. They certainly arent politicized, and they follow the facts, maam, and they get their guy. They get the bad guy, and thats what they do. And if you have nothing to worry about, you shouldnt have a fear in the world of talking to em. If you didnt do anything wrong, you should have no fear because law enforcement is not interested in you if youre innocent.
Thats the reputation they have enjoyed/benefited from my whole life. But the real world intercedes at some point, and we find out thats not true, either. Theres nobody above that fray in that regard. But then again theres another aspect of this. Lets look at one more thing: What we are learning about the investigation. What we have learned about Strzok. What we have learned about Strzok and Lisa Page. What we have learned about the involvement of Comey.
We have learned about the corrupt nature of this entire investigation. We have learned that the deep state made it all up! Weve learned the deep state used a phony opposition research document, more than likely, to secure a warrant to spy on the Republican presidential candidate and then the Republican presidential-elect and then the Republican president. We know that this all happened. We know that Obama was culpable and involved in making sure Hillary wasnt indicted.
We know that there was collusion between the Hillary campaign and the Russians by way of Fusion GPS. It could be and this is a way-out-there example, too. It could be that Mueller might decide to wrap things up quickly because of how close other investigators are getting to what his investigation has been doing. I mean, there are now legitimate calls for a second special counsel to investigate this one! Thats how out of hand this has all gotten. This is how corrupt this entire process has become.
Its way out there, but its possible that Mueller might want to wrap this up just to limit what else anybody learns about it going forward. Especially if they dont have anything on Trump-Russia collusion and if theyre searching for process crimes. But one thing I do not doubt and this is what I want to leave you with in this so. Theres one thing I do not doubt, folks.
I do not doubt that the original energy and desire to deny Trump the presidency and then to destroy his campaign, destroy his transition and destroy his presidency In other words, the effort and the energy put into it to get rid of Trump has not waned in any measurable way. It is just as intense. The people involved want to get rid of Trump today as much, if not more than they did when all this began. There has been no let-up, in my humble opinion.
I dont care what we have learned about this investigation, the corrupt nature of it, the missing texts, the culpability of Obama, the dishonesty of all these people. It hasnt fazed them. They still view themselves as in charge. They view themselves as in control, and I think they view themselves Im talking about these deep state people. They view themselves as untouchable. They dont think we can get to them. They dont think that theyre actually going to Even if they get caught, nothings gonna happen.
And, as such, I think they are just as hell-bent on getting rid of Donald Trump today and maybe more so than ever given the overwhelming success that Trump has had in unraveling the Obama administration and much of its regulations and Obamacare and promoting economic growth that was never intended to happen, folks. The Democrat Party did not want this kind of growth to happen, certainly not when they werent in the White House.
The effort, the desire to get rid of Trump is as strong as ever.
RUSH: So I get a note from a friend, How in the world could you or anybody think that Muellers about to wrap this up when the Manafort trial doesnt even begin until later this year? And I had to say thats actually a good point. So, as I said, I dont think Mueller is gonna end this any time soon, and certainly not early enough before the midterms in 2018 for people to forget it, because and I cannot emphasize this enough.
The way the public consumes knowledge about these investigations, keep in mind, folks, that at least half of the country doesnt know about Strzok and Lisa Page, and they dont know about missing texts, and they dont know about all of the corrupt allegations about this investigation, cause their Drive-By Media is not reporting this. Dont doubt me on this. You know, you who listen to this program or watching Fox News, you are fully informed on things about this investigation that whatever percentage of the country that watches the Drive-Bys, literally have no idea.
They dont know theres any controversy in this investigation. They dont know that there are missing texts from a very crucial period. The only way they might know is if they read Trumps tweets about it, and they think Trumps insane. So while you might get the impression this things winding down, there hasnt been anything found, dont doubt me. These people have not stopped, and theyre not going to stop throughout the rest of this year doing everything they can to get rid of Donald Trump. Do not think anything other than that.
RUSH: I just had a note: Did you see the headline on Drudge? I said, Yeah, I see the headline on Drudge. The headline on Drudge is, Collision Course: Congress Tightening Noose on Investigation, and what this means is that members of Congress Weve got the memo, remember? Weve got the four-page memo. Trump is thinking authorizing the release of the memo the memo that has been seen by every member of Congress. Ive talked to a couple of them whove seen it.
They say it is bombshell. They say it is scary. They say it features the kind of authoritarianism that you would never believe possible in this country. I want to reemphasize a point that I just made. Whether were talking about individual people in the intelligence community and, folks, who could that be? The CIA. The NSA. The FBI has clandestine agents. We have agencies of this government that have spies that are working in this country and around the world. So to be able to categorize the intel community, it would be difficult to identify just one group.
I mean, it is one group, but they are widely employed by a bunch of different agencies and organizations, and then they have contractors that are hired. You know, Edward Snowden was a contractor working for the NSA in Hawaii. He was not a hired, salaried employee. He was a contractor, and he ended up having access to all kinds of data. We know how that went. The point is, these people and Im sure Lisa Page and Peter Strzok and all these people on Muellers team think they are untouchable.
They think nothing is going to happen to them, no matter what is discovered. But they dont think that what theyre doing is gonna ever be fully discovered or exposed. Theyre not quaking in fear as each day here goes by, as Congress seems to be getting closer. You add to this that over 40% of the country doesnt even know about this, because none of this or very little of this is being reported. But these people collectively and individually really do consider themselves way above the fray of all this.
They may as well be atop the Eiffel Tower looking down at all of us ants scurrying around down here. We dont know how to get up to where they are and therefore we cant identify who they are. But Im just telling you: Attitudinally in terms of arrogance and confidence, in their minds, theres nothing Look at Strzok! The guy was discovered to have been having an affair! That means he was in a blackmail-able position. All he ends up being is reassigned. All the rest, too. Bruce Ohr? Same thing.
He was found to be culpable, and his wife in a compromising position. She working for Fusion GPS. Obvious conflicts. Nothing happens to these people. Theyre protected, and they know it, and while they covet and harbor this confidence and this cocoon-like safety of ever being held accountable, they continue their work of undermining whatever it is they want to undermine to achieve what happened want to achieve.
These people are not elected and theyre not accountable to anybody. We dont know who they are. We know them by terms: deep state, the intelligence community, what have you. But we dont know who they are. We dont know who their bosses are. So the effort that they have been engaged in, that could be exposed, and the techniques that they have used to try to undermine (if this is the case) a presidency, at some point could be exposed.
But unless they happen to work for a Republican, theyre never gonna be identified, and nothing is ever gonna happen to em. Theyre gonna be protected like Dan Rather was protected after he got caught making up a news story about George W. Bush. This is why drain the swamp and Trumps pledge and promise to do it remains something thats very important to do.
It’s a trap!
I’d like to see this:
President Trump should invite Mueller in:
T...Please have a seat...
T...Where are all the FBI e-mails?
M...Thats not what Im here to talk about...
T...Where are all of Clintons emails?
M...Im not here about that...
T...Where is all the collusion evidence from Obama?
M...I dont know what you mean...
T...So, you are worthless...Youre fired...Have a nice day...
all a sitting president has to say is “No.”
But, this president has a particular expertise
IF ONLY HE WILL USE IT
“Mueller, sir, you’re FIRED!”
end of problem.
(the commies will scream but they are always screaming, so what?)
Totally agree. Mueller will take every other idiot’s view of events and claim Trump must be lying.
POTUS should get in front of the issue....and probably will. Come out and say....”I look forward to answering questions. Mueller should send them over and I will work on it when I get back to DC.”
He got in front of DACA with the show and tell with the media and he will come up with something for this too. Now Shumer has DACA CACA on his face. Announce it at the state of the union. He has taken the high road throughout the process.....which is the correct thing to do....and the most difficult given what has gone on so far.
Have the attorney answer EVERY question. Excercise the right to remain silent.
End of problem? Not a chance.
A venomous snake does not, before it strikes, concern itself with the innocence of its prey. Mueller is a venomous snake, and if he had an honest bone in his body, he would have ended the investigation months ago. So Trump can not appear and expect an honest inquiry.
I have seen those lawyers on You Tube explain why you should NEVER talk to prosecutors in an interview. They can use your honest truth to convict you.
Its a perjury trap. Look what he did to Papadopoulos and Flynn. Papadopolous plead guilty to lying about the date on which he talked to a British professor. Trumped up charges plain and simple.
+2. The question is if Trump’s ego will get him to do it.
I’d like to see:
M: I’m here for my interview with the President.
US Marshall: Sir, you are under arrest for sedition. You have the right to remain silent...
M; YOU CAN”T DO THIS TO ME!
US Marshall: Already done - step over here. This is your ankle bracket....
US Marshall: You will notified of your court date. Now get out of here. NOW.
POTUS has the right but not the ability to be silent. That’s not a knock on him, it is just the way he is.
There is absolutely no way such an interview, even if they just discussed the weather, would look other than awful.
As they would say in D.C., “the optics are terrible.”
And that is precisely why Mueller wants to do it. As things are going right now, his entire investigation is near collapse, and he and his team might be the subjects of the next special prosecutor. So he is desperate to come up with something, anything, to justify what he has been doing.
but a sitting president can also just say NO.
well i think so....
all the expected leftist screaching aside, of course
we will see. i guess President Trump sees it your way..or else he’s plenty smart guy and would have terminated this terribly-misguided investigation circus long ago
Your proposed scenario is awesome and I hope that does become a dream come true!!!
Something or someone must put an end to this seditious nightmare!!!
That sounds just about right.
“It’s a trap!” with kudos to Admiral Ackbar
I imagine President Trump has plans to discuss FBI corruption in the upcoming SOTU address.
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