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Dow sheds 400 pts as bond yields rise on strong jobs data
Rueters ^ | February 2, 2018 | Tanya Agrawal

Posted on 02/02/2018 11:36:21 AM PST by BenLurkin

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To: llevrok

“Once consumer rates inch up to historical levels of 4% or so, people will freak out.“

30 year fixed mortgage rate is 4.375%.
By historical standards 6.000% is low.
But many people don’t have the proper context of what is normal


21 posted on 02/02/2018 11:50:44 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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To: BenLurkin

The 5% GDP growth forecast yesterday makes bonds cheap. But it also shows expectation of growth in equities...
Don’t know how people decide where to jump.


22 posted on 02/02/2018 11:56:47 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: BenLurkin

Yes, I have already bought into this opportunity. Could have done better if I waited a bit...but I am OK with it!


23 posted on 02/02/2018 11:57:53 AM PST by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Yep. It hasn’t been ‘normal’ for years. As for the dow, big deal you can make money on the ups and downs.


24 posted on 02/02/2018 11:58:48 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: BenLurkin

Fear of the Federal Reserve, the true source of all recessions.


25 posted on 02/02/2018 11:58:51 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Professional

Pretty easy to tell you have provided something other than off-the-wall conjecture. I concur. A correction? Too early to tell, and not necessarily a bad thing. Long term? I’m going to make money in this market!


26 posted on 02/02/2018 12:04:58 PM PST by Obadiah
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To: edh
4% seems too low.

Point taken

Back when I got my BA in economics (1972), the traditional range was 4 to 6%.

My first house mortgage was at 11% and I was ecstatic when I ReFi'd at 9.5.

27 posted on 02/02/2018 12:05:28 PM PST by llevrok (DACA = Democrats Against Citizen Americans)
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To: BenLurkin

25,551.10 -635.61


28 posted on 02/02/2018 12:09:31 PM PST by Sleeping Freeper
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To: Jane Long

I invest, albeit a little here and there.

With a couple of nagging expenses gone, I hope to up my participation.


29 posted on 02/02/2018 12:14:28 PM PST by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: BenLurkin

Good day to buy some Apple.


30 posted on 02/02/2018 12:16:59 PM PST by ncfool (America Reborn 1/20/2017. Lets make sure we don't screw up,the opportunity to MAGA.)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

Exactly, It’s time for the media to report the stock changes as a percentage of the market. A 400 point drop when the market is over 25,000 is about 1.5% drop. on the other hand on of the greatest stock collapses ever in 1929 was only 38.33 points but it represented 13% of the total market value.


31 posted on 02/02/2018 12:18:22 PM PST by edzo4 (Democrats playbook = promise everything, deliver nothing, blame someone else.)
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To: BenLurkin
Work the stock market and then you will have the cash to buy the house you want.

Obama restrained and discouraged the American spirit for 8 long years.

Trump is unleashing it.

Hang onto your hat because we are in for an exciting ride.

32 posted on 02/02/2018 12:18:59 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Today, America turned a corner. The truth is coming out.)
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To: llevrok

My mom was telling me about rates back in the 70s / early 80s ... she was laughing at the rate I got recently ... I got locked in at 3.2% on my latest home.

The media is going to raise hell about rates going up because it sounds bad for Trump, but a decent rate will be a sign of a strong economy. At a minimum, for those that have zero faith in the stock market and prefer CDs or savings accounts, those interest rates should rise too.

I think we’ll see the higher end of “traditional rates” personally ... 6% ... that’s going to strike a nice balance for savers and investors.


33 posted on 02/02/2018 12:29:28 PM PST by edh
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So Crazy. Dow goes down because too many people are working. Strange world.

Nope. It's an overblown concern about a strong economy leading to drastically higher inflation and interest rates, Fed intervention and then a correction. It would make sense if interest rates were much, much higher but at this level it is craziness. Buy.

34 posted on 02/02/2018 12:34:01 PM PST by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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To: RoosterRedux

“Trump is unleashing it.
Hang onto your hat because we are in for an exciting ride.”

Agreed. This market over the course of the next decade is going to make Reagan’s look tame in comparison :-). I was too young to capitalize on that back then (I got stuck with the dot com implosion right around the time I could seriously invest :-) ). I will NOT miss this one :-).


35 posted on 02/02/2018 12:34:44 PM PST by edh
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To: llevrok

That sounds about like me. This c. 1983 on the first house, rates were just starting to come down from the worst of the Carter hangover years in the early Reagan Administration, but were still quite high.

That refi a few years later was really nice.


36 posted on 02/02/2018 12:35:45 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: edh
I went to Wall St in 1978 and was there during the Reagan years (the '80's)...wild ride.

This may--MAY--make the '80's look like a kiddy carnival.

People and even historians forget that the crash of 1929 was actually the crash of the manic-enthusiasm of the Industrial Revolution.

The 1980's crashed in October 1987.

Obama restrained the American spirit and Trump is unleashing it.

It will roar until it becomes maniacal...then it will crash.

37 posted on 02/02/2018 12:49:06 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Today, America turned a corner. The truth is coming out.)
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To: WinMod70

Totally understand that.


38 posted on 02/02/2018 12:51:37 PM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: napscoordinator

It has to do with interest rates and bonds... Interest were way to low to long and fed is going to raise them this year because of inflation. trying to get back to normal will see this over the next few months. Weird but nothing unusual especially you grow 45% in dow over last 1 year.


39 posted on 02/02/2018 12:58:04 PM PST by scbison
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To: scbison

I see that, but inflation is not down for most items in our lives except for the house. Otherwise, it has been a disaster. Going to the grocery store needs a pre approved loan now a days. Seriously that bad.


40 posted on 02/02/2018 1:03:15 PM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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