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The "radical" case for abolishing student debt
CBS "News" ^ | February 13, 2018 | By AIMEE PICCHI

Posted on 02/13/2018 10:15:29 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: raiderboy

The old car with the floor mostly rusted out

Heater fried your leg, though


41 posted on 02/13/2018 12:40:13 PM PST by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The only reason college tuition rose at 10 times the rate of inflation was because the colleges knew that their dumb 18-year old customers would borrow whatever the colleges decided to charge.

Add federal goverment loan guarantees, and we are off to the races.

42 posted on 02/13/2018 12:47:41 PM PST by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The GOP tax bill is providing a $1.5 trillion windfall,”

Now I remember why I haven’t watched CBS in over 30 years, they believe My Money belongs to the Government and I am receiving a Windfall by Not having to PAY AS MUCH???


43 posted on 02/13/2018 1:42:56 PM PST by eyeamok (Tolerance: The virtue of having a belief in Nothing!)
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To: Pecos

Erasing student debt would deprive those students and former students of an important life lesson - the need to judge cost v. benefits.
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It would, in relieving pain from those former students, enhance schools abilities to charge exorbitant - and in many cases outright frivolous - fees and tuition rates.


44 posted on 02/13/2018 3:47:18 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: WayneS

Which HP-41CX app would you recommend?


45 posted on 02/13/2018 3:58:05 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The economy grows as businesses spend more and invest, not by “consumer spending”. GDP is a false statistic. GO (Gross output) shows it is a better gauge of the economy, as well as showing how business spending is more growth oriented than consumer spending.


46 posted on 02/13/2018 4:12:31 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Wuli

That’s the really evil part about off shorng. When the factory is in Mexico it is real hard to invest in the USA economy. Buying in a new machine press made in Germany and delivered to a factory in Mexico which stamps out product destined for the USA carried in a Mexican truck is not going to grow the US economy one nickel.


47 posted on 02/13/2018 4:16:13 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: lepton

The one I have is i41CX+

Now that I look at it closely, it appears that this particular one is only available for Apple products.

In any event, I’ve had for about three years, and while there were a few bugs at first, periodic well-constructed updates have resulted in it running pretty much flawlessly. It really is a remarkable app.

The phone screen simulates the look of the original, and since the width and length (but fortunately not the thickness) of my iPhone 8 are similar to the dimensions of an HP-41C, the scale and spacing of the “buttons” is quite similar to the real thing. It even has a setting that provides a “click” with each keystroke, just like a brand new 41c.


48 posted on 02/13/2018 5:30:24 PM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: combat_boots

not that bad. it was a 1961 ford fairlane 3 on the column. 2 door. what a sorry car. It finally just blew up. Then I got a 63 Plymouth with 92,000 miles for $550 Financed at $ 38 per month. Why would I pay for free college for someone else’s kid? I will not do so.


49 posted on 02/13/2018 5:41:57 PM PST by raiderboy ( "...if we have to close down our government, weÂ’re building that wall" DJT)
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To: lepton

PS - there is also a very nice HP-42S emulator called Free 42. As its name implies, it is free,so it’s got that going for it. It is also definitely available for non-Apple devices.

I don’t know how familiar you are with the 42S but it was released during the mid-1980s as a sort of updated but simplified versions of the 41C. It has essentially the same basic capabilities as the 41C but does not have any plug-in modules. It does have a good deal more memory than the older calculator. It also has a two-line display. It’s a pretty powerful scientific programmable calculator, and it’s programming “language” is essentially identical to that of the 41C.

As with the 41CX emulator, it was a little buggy on initial release, but it’s been around a couple of years, and the developer appears dedicated to eliminating an/all bugs and quirks. I get an update about once a week, and they are worthwhile. As of now, ‘Free 42’ works almost as well as i41CX+.


50 posted on 02/13/2018 5:44:34 PM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: WayneS
I have the HP calculator on my Android phone. Just a natural to use as any HP calculator. My college graduation gift was an HP25. I wrote my first program on it to replace tables in the Schaum's Genetics book. I carried the HP16C while teaching my embedded systems (6800/8085) course from 1980 to 1983. All hand-coded assembler. Having the 2's comp arithmetic support was helpful for long relative branch back calcs. The HP12C serves as my financial tool. I did finally cough up for a top of the line HP graphing/programmable calculator. Very nice. I keep a lower end one at hand when writing the aeronautical engineering calculations. Sufficient for that kind of work.
51 posted on 02/14/2018 9:08:04 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

It’s nice to know I’m not the onlt RPN geek left in the world.

By the way, I just found these guys last night:

https://www.swissmicros.com/

They make HP “clones” that actually look pretty nice. I may take a chance on buying one.

I have 20+ different HP RPN calculators and a few Soviet made RPNs as well; but the newest one is about 20 years old. I’m not sure I want to subject any of them to the rigors of a daily ride in my briefcase.


52 posted on 02/14/2018 9:13:55 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So, white kids in debt have to pay it off. But, black kids get that tougher debt—so we should give them a break.

Am I summarizing that correctly?

Because I am a fat guy. And us fat guys have trouble doing everything. So, I want a break on my mortgage for that. OK?

//sarc


53 posted on 02/14/2018 9:22:40 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Burn. It. Down.)
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