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California’s housing crunch has turned liberals against one another
nbcnews.com ^ | February 28, 2018 | James Rainey

Posted on 03/01/2018 6:42:42 AM PST by grundle

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To: grundle

They can’t wait until everyone is packed like sardines into high rises and using mass transit to go anywhere. Then the Liberals will be happy - more cities with which to demand federal subsidies for mass transit.


21 posted on 03/01/2018 7:43:03 AM PST by Wuli (qu)
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To: grundle

Problems like these shift California’s to other states. Not cool. Same for pr. They will stay in florida.


22 posted on 03/01/2018 7:49:04 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: grundle

Friends and their adult kids are leaving the San Fran Peninsula. Often the kids move first to cheaper places with jobs and the parents follow. The old family “rancher” gets listed for $2M to $3M and is sold in four days. The newly rich will then either tear it down or extensively remodel it and park their Tesla and BMW in the driveway.

Two of our kids have left California and I have no doubt #3 will follow. This is no place to start a life or raise a family.

Meanwhile, along El Camino Real, tens of thousands of apartments and condos have been built in the past eight years from South San Francisco to San Jose, driving traffic on secondary roads to insane levels. What were quiet country roads 40 years ago are not clogged with bumper-to-bumper traffic. Waze is sending traffic onto once-quiet neighborhood streets driving resident crazy. Tensions rise with prices and traffic and it seems like everybody is on edge and rude these days, much more so than 40 years ago when you could count on every car stopping for you if you even got near a crosswalk. Today you have to be ultra-cautious to not get run over.

On the bright side, we’ve got a nice three-day rainstorm on us, so there’s a bit of drought relief happening.

We finally pulled the trigger on a second home in the Idaho panhandle and we are SO looking forward to spending April to October there to get away from this.

There isn’t a person we’ve talked to who moved away from here who hasn’t said “I am SO happy I left that nutty place. I should have moved years ago.”


23 posted on 03/01/2018 7:53:57 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I bought a 900 sq foot house (INCLUDING one car garage!) on a 6,000 sq foot lot in Palo Alto in 1978 for $100,000 (11X or 12X my salary at the time), an astronomical amount then. I’d scrimped and saved during my five years in a field service engineering job to build up a 25% down payment. During my field service years, I never had a home and lived 100% on the road. House prices had about doubled in five years and I was scared to death I was buying in at the peak and would get wiped out.

I told dear old Dad what I’d bought. I can still hear his voice loud and clear: “Son, that was the STUPIDEST thing you’ve ever done.” His background and frame of reference didn’t let him understand the economic potential of this area.

We had to sell that starter house to move up. Sure wish we hadn’t sold it and made it into a rental!


24 posted on 03/01/2018 8:01:30 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: grundle
"....California’s housing crunch has turned liberals against one another...."

Let them devour each other in an ideological fight.

The Left always ends up involved in a circular firing squad.

25 posted on 03/01/2018 8:02:08 AM PST by HotHunt
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To: beaversmom

Our daughter moved there to go back to school and just bought a house there. Heading toward Boulder, it’s now nothing but a gigantic sea of houses, condos and townhomes. Wow, is it crowded there!

When I was a kid the country had 150 million people. Today it’s 340 million. No new cities have been built in the past 150 years. Most of those new 190 million people are packed into existing cities and suburbs. It really shows.


26 posted on 03/01/2018 8:04:42 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: eyeamok

“Now if you are an Illegal Alien with a couple Illegitimate Illegal Alien kids, EVERYTHING IS FREE!!!”.

So, if that be true, there should be NO PAYMENT of taxpayer funds going to the apartment owners either.


27 posted on 03/01/2018 8:06:27 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: grundle

Any way we can help fan the flames?


28 posted on 03/01/2018 8:35:08 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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Claire Neal is one of four roommates who split the $3,000 monthly rent for a one-bedroom near the Berkeley campus. She acknowledges that building apartments may eventually reduce rents. “I know taller buildings might be more efficient, but they are really not very pretty,” says Neal, a senior studying environmental sciences. “And if you are building up, you are going to tear down some things and change the neighborhood.”

Four people sharing a one bedroom. That can't be very pretty.

29 posted on 03/01/2018 8:39:13 AM PST by glorgau
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To: grundle
Not a new problem.

It goes something like this: "How can I find cheap labor to clean my house, mow my lawn and vacuum my pool without allowing cheap housing and Wal-Marts anywhere near my house?"

This is a job for high-speed rail, right?

30 posted on 03/01/2018 8:39:15 AM PST by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: eyeamok

Californians are jealous of the commie Venezuelans ... they’re fighting for equal status with the world’s sh*tholes...


31 posted on 03/01/2018 8:43:34 AM PST by GOPJ (It's NOT Russians changing the vote - it's illegals WITH HELP FROM DEMOCRATS.)
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To: grundle

“You call someplace paradise,
kiss it goodbye.”


32 posted on 03/01/2018 8:45:52 AM PST by deadrock
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To: goldstategop

You couldn’t afford it today.


You are correct, I couldn’t

And I couldn’t even rent the same house today (which is one good reason to buy rather then rent)

We stay because we have roots here now, and because we are too old to move away from our family support system.

If I was in my 40s I would be thinking about moving.


33 posted on 03/01/2018 8:47:06 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (US out of the UN, UN out of the US)
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To: grundle

For many Californians, the housing crisis has become “a feeling of tightness in their chests and in their jaws,” said Brian Hanlon, a prominent housing activist, “because they have this sense that there is no future for them here.”


That’s because there is no future in these California city sh*tholes.


34 posted on 03/01/2018 8:48:49 AM PST by RooRoobird20 ("Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.")
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To: ZOOKER
This is a job for high-speed rail, right?

High speed rail brings inner city criminals to upper middle class "CHEAP LABOR' paradises...

California's becoming a third world hellhole: small numbers of uber rich 'elites' and large numbers of poverty stricken homeless, beggars, and gut wrenching human misery. No middle class... Sh*thole status.

35 posted on 03/01/2018 8:49:14 AM PST by GOPJ (It's NOT Russians changing the vote - it's illegals WITH HELP FROM DEMOCRATS.)
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To: ifinnegan

hive housing around train stations.


I visited my step brother in San Diego last month. Nice condo, but to my eyes odd. It was basically 4 levels. Garage on the ground floor, living room on the next level, then the dining area and then the bedrooms—kind of like my beehives.


36 posted on 03/01/2018 9:11:42 AM PST by hanamizu
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To: GOPJ
See my tagline, the high-speed rail idea was a joke.

The reality will be what you see now - tent cities and cardboard condos out in urban ghettos, and smelly buses linking the peons to their work in the hills.

Paradise or dystopia, depending on which end of the bus line you live on.

37 posted on 03/01/2018 9:14:22 AM PST by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: grundle

It’s expensive in Massachusetts too, but I love it here. It’s sometimes awkward being a conservative here amongst many liberals but not as bad as you think. We bought a singl family house in Boston in 2003 for $330k. Sold it in 2013 for $650k. It was on the market for less than 3 days.

Moved to the burbs south of Boston where I grew up in 2013. Bought a 4,000 sq ft house on 2.5 acres that abuts a 600 acre nature preserve. Feel like we got it for a steal at $703k. According to our realtor it’s worth about $850k now. We’re staying put though. My three young sons love it here.

The “no shit Sherlock” point is if you want to live in a nice place it’s usually friggin expensive.


38 posted on 03/01/2018 9:24:23 AM PST by strider44
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To: dsrtsage

You left out all the money the illegals cost California taxpayers due to the crimes they commit (police/jail/prison costs). Money that could also be better spent elsewhere.


39 posted on 03/01/2018 9:41:29 AM PST by Cecily
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To: CIB-173RDABN

I moved out of Calif when I was 65 and built up a place for my horses in N Nevada. Paid for new property free & clear & built it up to more than 2 X what I started with. Taxes here are less than $700 a year.


40 posted on 03/01/2018 9:50:49 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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