Posted on 03/03/2018 8:13:11 PM PST by Ennis85
Pssst - the reason they have to use those smaller turbo motors (and all the other US makes are doing the same thing) is Obama and the Dem’s ratcheting up of the CAFE law and removing the ‘pay to get out of it’ option. Which Mitch McConnell and the rest of the GOPe sure can’t seem to get off their ass to fix.
Ford still has the naturally aspirated V8 in their trucks and the Mustang, and you can get the non-turbo V6 in a lot of their trucks and cars. They don’t currently have a car platform that can take a V8 because they killed off all their rear wheel drive cars.
You got it. It is a trade war, it is not a long term policy. There will be casualties.
It is time for America to stop bending over.
This will bring them to the table.
It is no surprise that Trump plays hard ball.
I never planned to buy a BMW, Audi or Mercedes Ben so doesn’t matter to me. Maybe my doctor or lawyer.
Swedes love American cars. The biggest classic American car show in the word - Power Big Meet - happens in Sweden.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQqTU2P4NWg
The only Chevys that are available for sale in England are Camaros and Corvettes. Chevy mostly pulled out of that market because of poor sales. The 10% tariff certainly had something to do with that.
Sweden may have more enthusiastic drag-racers than the US!
What’s the rationale for allowing them to hit our cars with 10% but us not hitting theirs but for 2.5%?
We have been getting screwed for years by tariffs from every country under the sun who thinks they can get away with it. All based on “need” little else. No more.We now have a potus who puts America first.It’s about time.
I agree American cars are worth less than Asian cars, but European cars are always in the shop even if you buy them new, so they come in a distant third with me.
Thumbs up on your post! We have an America first potus,long overdue.
Yeah Trump!
All you traitors out there lets see if this works, it will.
Here are some of the countries screwing over the USA. Look at the tariff rates:
Jim is a Free Traitor™.
Trump would be making a big mistake to increase costs to American consumers by forcing taxes (tariffs) on incoming European cars. It would be a perfect example of why “protective” tariffs do more harm than good, penalizing the American consumer and lowering our standard of living by appearing, but actually failing, to attack the REAL reasons for Detroit’s malaise.
Why is there greater demand both here and abroad for foreign cars than American cars? Is it because the big bad foreign countries have put tariffs on American cars? No, it is because American cars are famously inferior in quality in general to foreign cars. Why are American cars inferior to foreign cars? Why is Detroit a ghost town now? Is it because of those nasty foreign counties’ tariffs? OF COURSE NOT!
The REAL reasons foreign autos out-compete American autos began in the 60’s and 70’s when the fat-cat manufacturers in Detroit ignored warnings that foreign auto makers were innovating their engineering and manufacturing techniques. Detroit got lazy and did not want to be bothered until, as the story goes, one day an executive on a trip to the west coast in the 70’s was stunned to see so many Japanese cars on the road.
So the first reason for inferior American auto products was LACK OF COMPETITION.
When Detroit finally saw they had real foreign competition, it ran into another big problem – unconstitutionally federally protected unions. “UAW contracts bound and gagged the Big Three with costs and obligations that fatally restricted their ability to innovate and compete” https://cei.org/2013/07/29/empire-of-rust-how-the-uaw-killed-detroit.
So unconstitutional FEDERALLY PROTECTED UNIONS were the next reason for inferior American products that could not compete.
So what was the reaction? Of course, more government. In business if you fail, you correct or die. In government, if you fail, you just call for more money and more government and you end up with an even greater degree of failure.
So what has government done? Imposed suffocating HIGH TAXES, unconstitutional dead-end REGULATIONS, unconstitutional business-and-job-killing FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE, and engaged in basically unconstitutional SUBSIDES (BRIBES) FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS. Result? A greater degree of failure.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, not the EU, China, or the Man in the Moon, is the MAIN reason for our failure to compete in the marketplace. Federally protected unions, high taxes, regulations, minimum wage, and subsidies all have converged to “bind and gag” American business and drive industry from our shores. Kill these mostly unconstitutional and boneheaded acts and policies and you’ve gone a long way to fixing the problem. Trump has directly addressed some of these problems. ALL need to be abolished.
In the meantime, what do protective tariffs accomplish besides penalizing the American consumer and lowering our standard of living? It restricts open competition. And NO COMPETITION was the problem in the first place. More government creating more of the same old problems.
Economically meddling government creates poverty. The market economy free from government interference creates wealth. Open competition in the free market drives innovation, lower cost, and higher quality in the free market. The American economy and consumer wins with open competition in the free market. American industry wins when it is free from the feds. Let’s get smart.
Trump would be making a big mistake to increase costs to American consumers by forcing taxes (tariffs) on incoming European cars. It would be a perfect example of why “protective” tariffs do more harm than good, penalizing the American consumer and lowering our standard of living by appearing, but actually failing, to attack the REAL reasons for Detroit’s malaise.
Why is there greater demand both here and abroad for foreign cars than American cars? Is it because the big bad foreign countries have put tariffs on American cars? No, it is because American cars are famously inferior in quality in general to foreign cars. Why are American cars inferior to foreign cars? Why is Detroit a ghost town now? Is it because of those nasty foreign counties’ tariffs? OF COURSE NOT!
The REAL reasons foreign autos out-compete American autos began in the 60’s and 70’s when the fat-cat manufacturers in Detroit ignored warnings that foreign auto makers were innovating their engineering and manufacturing techniques. Detroit got lazy and did not want to be bothered until, as the story goes, one day an executive on a trip to the west coast in the 70’s was stunned to see so many Japanese cars on the road.
So the first reason for inferior American auto products was LACK OF COMPETITION.
When Detroit finally saw they had real foreign competition, it ran into another big problem – unconstitutionally federally protected unions. “UAW contracts bound and gagged the Big Three with costs and obligations that fatally restricted their ability to innovate and compete” https://cei.org/2013/07/29/empire-of-rust-how-the-uaw-killed-detroit.
So unconstitutional FEDERALLY PROTECTED UNIONS were the next reason for inferior American products that could not compete.
So what was the reaction? Of course, more government. In business if you fail, you correct or die. In government, if you fail, you just call for more money and more government and you end up with an even greater degree of failure.
So what has government done? Imposed suffocating HIGH TAXES, unconstitutional dead-end REGULATIONS, unconstitutional business-and-job-killing FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE, and engaged in basically unconstitutional SUBSIDES (BRIBES) FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS. Result? A greater degree of failure.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, not the EU, China, or the Man in the Moon, is the MAIN reason for our failure to compete in the marketplace. Federally protected unions, high taxes, regulations, minimum wage, and subsidies all have converged to “bind and gag” American business and drive industry from our shores. Kill these mostly unconstitutional and boneheaded acts and policies and you’ve gone a long way to fixing the problem. Trump has directly addressed some of these problems. ALL need to be abolished.
In the meantime, what do protective tariffs accomplish besides penalizing the American consumer and lowering our standard of living? It restricts open competition. And NO COMPETITION was the problem in the first place. More government creating more of the same old problems.
Economically meddling government creates poverty. The market economy free from government interference creates wealth. Open competition in the free market drives innovation, lower cost, and higher quality in the free market. The American economy and consumer wins with open competition in the free market. American industry wins when it is free from the feds. Let’s get smart.
central_va is a socialist who thinks that freedom is treason.
I would argue differently.
I see the central_va as a 1930’s Republican isolationist student of the likes of Pat Buchanan. He just can’t quite grasp the fact that times have changed and America is a powerful world trader.
I sometimes wonder if he thinks that any one that look beyond their own county line is a globalist and can’t seem to separate the boogie man of global government from trade on a global scale
Good point - almost, if not altogether, as though if you’re not an isolationist, you must be for Global Totalitarian Government.
But I’m not sure I would give central_va credit to think it through that much. Unlike Buchanan, he doesn’t get much past his pet mantra to any kind of reasonable exchange and if ever he does, he fumbles badly. I’ve concluded he’s basically unreasonable. He’s on my “No Fly Zone” list to not engage other than maybe a brief volley.
I have found few tariff-lovers who can reasonably debate the issue and the reason I think so is because protective tariffs, like socialism, loses the debate in the forum of reasonable logic and ideas.
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