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BREAKING: Florida House passes gun control bill
Orlando Sentinel ^ | 7 March 2018 | Gray Rohrer

Posted on 03/07/2018 3:46:43 PM PST by Yo-Yo

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To: manc

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So the Dems got all but one of what they wanted, and the house is GOP controlled!!!! WTH
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Hell, it’s even worse than that. Last couple years, there’s been a CCW on campus EVERY session. It’s been the State Senate ‘leadership’ that scuttles the bill. EVERY. YEAR.

More control @ local level, my @ss


201 posted on 03/08/2018 7:54:46 AM PST by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: Yo-Yo
"The law doesn’t ban possession for those 18-21, only sale by an FFL, as is now federal law for handguns."

For those over 21, there was a 3 day waiting period to purchase handguns in Florida before this bill.

The Florida Constitution imposes a mandatory three-day waiting period, excluding weekends and legal holidays, between the retail purchase and delivery of any handgun.1 This waiting period does not apply to concealed weapons permit holders or to the “trade-in of another handgun.”

The minimum age to purchase alcohol is 21 in all 57 states, and it's 21 to purchase tobacco in several states. (I'd favor a Constitutional Amendment to raise the voting age to 21, too.)

202 posted on 03/08/2018 7:57:26 AM PST by Sooth2222 (Hanlon's Razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.")
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To: lizma2; wgmalabama

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“If I can’t own a gun then I can’t register”

Dream on.

I suspect you’re a youngin.
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Right. We can’t have GOVT being consistent now, let alone worry about some 200yr+ old document, can we. No matter that Sel. Serv. (conscription) is antithesis to a Free people.

Concur w/ many posted already: Either an ADULT, w/ all the liabilities/abilities or still a child (voting, abortion, elective surgery, driving [already highest change of accidents per insurance, no], etc.


203 posted on 03/08/2018 8:02:24 AM PST by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: dsm69; TonyM

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There may be an exception to the law for 18-20 years olds who are currently serving in the Armed Forces, active or reserve/national guard, to continue to be able to purchase rifles and some other exceptions.

It may have been put in the bill but NOT included in this story. The Florida Governor has said he would support that exception to any new law banning those under 21 from buying a rifle.
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That’s right. America, where some Rights (and some GOVT employees) are more equal than others

How many more ‘carve-outs’ will be allowed before it’s back to ‘serfs’ vs ‘royalty’ (least the serfs had a smaller taxation problem).


204 posted on 03/08/2018 8:05:01 AM PST by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: Yo-Yo; All

ALSO lacking from said bill: K-12 arms\safety training.

Talk about killing the debate from the get-go, as well as showing the Leftists their hypocrisy.


205 posted on 03/08/2018 8:08:44 AM PST by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: apillar
So what about an 18 year old that rushes out this afternoon and buys a rifle? Will they be grandfathered in or become criminals overnight?

Possession is not affected, so yes they would be grandfathered in.

How about private sellers? Are they suppose to start "carding" potential buyers that look like they might be under 21?

They were supposed to do that for those who looked under 18 for rifles, and under 21 for handguns already.

What if an 18 year old buys a rifle in Georgia or Alabama from a private seller and brings it into the state?

It is already against Federal law for ANYONE to make a face-to-face purchase of a firearm outside of your home state. The only place one can legally purchase (and take delivery of) long guns outside of their home state is from an FFL. An out-of-state FFL must determine that the long gun sale would be legal in the buyer's home state, which after this bill is signed into law, would not be. Out of state handgun sales must be shipped to an FFL in the buyer's home state for delivery to the purchaser.

206 posted on 03/08/2018 8:15:25 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo

This STUPID vote just shows WHY that state is called FloriDUH!


207 posted on 03/08/2018 8:35:27 AM PST by 2harddrive
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
Back in the 1700’s, “well regulated” meant “well trained.

Yup. That's what I meant. My question is can the violent and crazy people be well trained?

208 posted on 03/08/2018 8:50:33 AM PST by VinnieCCT
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To: VinnieCCT; RegulatorCountry

——Back in the 1700’s, “well regulated” meant “well trained.-—

What say you regarding the late 1700’s definition of regulated?


209 posted on 03/08/2018 8:53:45 AM PST by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: dadfly
you’re taking the leftist meaning of “regulation” from the founder’s amendment. there’s a reason leftist’s twist the original meanings of words.

I am very pro 2A. I am correctly interpreting the meaning of the clause. My point is whether or not violent and/or crazy people can be well trained and responsible.

210 posted on 03/08/2018 8:56:19 AM PST by VinnieCCT
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To: bert

The word “regulate” has come to have a negative connotation in modern society due to government overreach. Originally, the term meant orderly, well-disciplined. Regular in the sense of consistent and predictable good performance. The Regulator War in the then-frontier backcountry of the North Carolina colony was sparked by unfair, abusive and corrupt governance. They sought to “regulate” colonial government in the original sense. Consistent, predictable, good performance but most of all, fair to the governed. That’s practically the diametric opposite of the modern sense of the word.


211 posted on 03/08/2018 9:00:34 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: DarthVader

You made my day.


212 posted on 03/08/2018 10:10:05 AM PST by Crucial
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To: 2harddrive

Show why the STUPID legislators why their state is called FloriDUH!

Videos: How to Bumpfire Effectively without a Bumpfire Stock!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIC8SMttjjo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9fD_BX-afo

No need for a Bumpfire stock. Amazingly fun! Accuracy is naturally compromised, though. Short handgun cartridges have the highest cyclic rate, since less bolt travel is needed.

Bumpfiring is 100% legal, and safe in a properly maintained modern sporting rifle. Some gun ranges do not like it, though, because they feel you don’t have adequate control of the firearm. I am sure that could well be the case of you bumpfired a cartridge anywhere from 7.62 NATO (.308 Winchester) on up.


213 posted on 03/08/2018 11:04:09 AM PST by 2harddrive
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To: VinnieCCT

The violent people, if they have felony convictions for violent crimes, should be in prison...no training for them.

The crazy people....the insane....if a court orders their confinement in a mental institution because of their mental illness....no training or firearms for them, either.

Of course, mental institutions were largely emptied decades ago because it wasn’t PC to confine people with severe mental illness. Their “rights” have to be protected, according to the left.


214 posted on 03/08/2018 1:05:37 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (No DACA Caca....Send the Nightmares home. "Americans are Dreamers, too." President Trump)
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To: Yo-Yo

So if an inalienable right isn’t conveyed until you are 21, then you are a ward of the state until such time, having no other rights other than what is specified by the state.


215 posted on 03/08/2018 1:18:53 PM PST by Salvavida (The Missouri citizen's militia sends its regards.)
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To: Lean-Right

Similar to you, I was given my first gun at 12. I would go hunting with dad prior to that and carried my BB gun to learn gun safety. When I was 18, I bought a Ruger Single-six 22 LR/.22 Magnum pistol. Now, a kid, under 21, according to what I’m reading, couldn’t receive a gun from his father. Bunch of BS!


216 posted on 03/08/2018 2:41:40 PM PST by Road Warrior 04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: VinnieCCT

oh good. sorry i misread you. then we’re agreed that “well regulated” has no place in this debate, and that this law is a clear violation of the 2A, i.e., the law of the land.


217 posted on 03/08/2018 2:52:34 PM PST by dadfly
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To: Road Warrior ‘04

If someone under 21 is set on doing harm
to others with a firearm, they will,
thru nefarious means, find a way to obtain
one. I’m surprised the NRA is not as
vocal about this as they should be.


218 posted on 03/08/2018 3:12:43 PM PST by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: dsm69

And to get behind the wheel of a motor vehicle


219 posted on 03/09/2018 6:45:22 AM PST by kelly4c
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To: ncalburt

I am in Florida, and Gov Scott was tirelessly working to help during last year’s 2 hurricanes. He is not going to lose in Statewide Florida election. AFAIK the gun bill is still on hid desk waiting for his signature as of last night’s news.


220 posted on 03/09/2018 1:33:32 PM PST by entropy12 (30 Million low wealth, low skill LEGAL chain migrants in 25 years is 60 times worse than DACA)
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