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Responding to Vox’s: “America’s unique gun violence problem, explained in 17 maps and charts”
Crime Prevention Research Center ^ | April 3, 2018 | Crime Prevention Research Center

Posted on 04/04/2018 12:18:57 PM PDT by richardb72

An article at Vox has gained attention for illustrating America’s “unique gun violence problem” in 17 maps and charts. Below, we will respond to the individual graphs below on Vox’s terms. But there are a lot of assumptions behind Vox’s graphs. Often, just one or two public health studies are cited to make a particular point, without discussing any of the known weaknesses with these studies. It would also be valuable for Vox to acknowledge and critique research that reaches the opposite conclusions.

Economists focus on the notion of substitution. If you take away guns, people might commit suicides or murders in other ways. It is total deaths that need to concern everyone. Vox focuses exclusively on gun deaths without looking at the larger picture.

There are many countries that have higher gun homicide rates than the United States, but simply don’t report firearm homicide data. Many of these meet the criteria to be members of the OECD (Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development). While 192 countries report total homicides, only 116 countries report firearm homicides. The average homicide rate among countries that don’t have firearm homicide data is 11.1 per 100,000.

Homicide is not synonymous with murder. Homicides count both murders and justifiable homicides (when a police officer or a civilian kills someone in self-defense). In the five years from 2011 to 2015, the US experienced 11,577 firearm homicides and 8,786.4 firearm murders. This gap is much larger in the US than in other countries, so comparing homicide rates gives a more unfavorable impression of the US than if we looked only at murder rates......

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1 posted on 04/04/2018 12:18:57 PM PDT by richardb72
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To: richardb72

Two words.

Vox lies.

Especially Carlos whatshisname with the ear discs.

2 posted on 04/04/2018 12:32:40 PM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: sauropod; napscoordinator

Vox is a far-left propaganda outfit that mascarades as a news source.

3 posted on 04/04/2018 12:41:23 PM PDT by TexasGurl24
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To: richardb72
An article at Vox...

Stopped reading right there.

4 posted on 04/04/2018 12:43:52 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: TexasGurl24
Founded by the same guy as the far left "Daily Kos", Markos Moulitsas. Unfortunately, they are growing very quickly and know how to manipulate the big search engines to ensure they get plenty of high placement. Like the Huffington Post, a lot of clueless people get their news from Vox and think they are legit.

Vox is also taking over a lot of sports related news and discussion outlets and pushes their leftist/SJW BS on those sites too. Vox is the enemy.

5 posted on 04/04/2018 12:56:56 PM PDT by ETCS
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To: richardb72

well, what the chart of the US tells us is:
liberals are not responsible enough or psychologically mature enough to own guns,
whereas conservative areas appear to be very responsible and mature when it comes to owning guns.
Solution: ban liberals from owning guns

6 posted on 04/04/2018 1:44:12 PM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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What's interesting is that Vox's main news site has NO comment section, which is not true of The Verge and SB Nation. I wonder why....
7 posted on 04/04/2018 1:50:28 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: richardb72
From Vox: Among developed nations, the US is far and away the most homicidal

Why the focus on 'developed nations'? Do 'non-developed' nations have higher or lower homicide rates?

Of the homicide rates for the US, what is the breakdown by race, ethnicity, legal and illegal status?

8 posted on 04/04/2018 2:03:56 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: sauropod

good post

9 posted on 04/05/2018 3:31:03 AM PDT by Cruz ("Wherever there is a jackboot stomping on a human face there will be a well-heeled Western liberal t)
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To: richardb72
Well; BEFORE ya get born; there is about a 25% chance a future American will die by CHOICE: a collusion between serial killers and heartless 'mothers'.

CHOICE is THE biggest cause of death in America: 1 in 4

There just might be some kind of karma taking place; doncha think??

Sow the wind; reap the whirlwind type of effect??

10 posted on 04/06/2018 4:35:35 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: All
This is BS posing as fake news, is just another example of where our 4th Estate is.

The Fourth Estate (or fourth power) is a segment of society that wields an indirect but significant influence on society even though it is not a formally recognized part of the political system. The most commonly recognized part of the fourth estate is the news media, or press.

Fourth Estate - Wikipedia:

11 posted on 04/06/2018 11:28:51 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Democrats are having trouble with their MAMA campaign To (Make America Mexico Again) versus MAGA!)
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