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The Cal 3 Initiative: Three Californias may be coming soon
American Thinker ^ | 04/16/2018 | Fritz Pettyjohn

Posted on 04/16/2018 10:03:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Tim Draper is a rich man, but he understands he doesn't know it all.  His first attempt to divide California into six states made little sense.  So he went out and got some people who are experts on the subject.  The result, Cal 3, is a political masterpiece.  This could work.

When California was admitted to the Union in 1850, it had only 92,000 people, most of them scrambling for gold in the foothills of the Sierra Nevada.  That's why California's county lines are so screwy.  Los Angeles County now has 10,000,000 people.  Alpine County has 1,000.


Cal 3 divides the state along lines
that make geographic, cultural, and political sense.  The population is divided roughly into thirds.  North and South are still very large states, and what's left of California would be a medium-size state.

In order for this to work, it will need to get a majority not just of the total vote.  Majorities will be needed in all three prospective states.  Looking at this map makes me think that could happen, for one important reason: partisan politics.

The Democrats in Washington, D.C. are going to love this idea.  Now California has two Democratic senators.  Under Cal 3, it will have four Democratic senators from ultra-blue North California and California.  The two senators from South California will be up for grabs.  Democrats could pick off one of them or even two.  The Democrats will not lose Senate seats, but they might gain one or two.  For a D, what's not to like?  Plus somebody gets to fill these new Senate seats.  People's eyes will light up.

If the Democrats win control of both House and Senate this year, they would have an incentive to support Cal 3.  The backing of President Trump can be negotiated.  

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: cal3; california; secession
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1 posted on 04/16/2018 10:03:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 04/16/2018 10:04:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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What happened to the state of Jefferson proponents?


3 posted on 04/16/2018 10:07:15 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: SeekAndFind

Adding 3 or 4 more Dim Senators? With the state fraud level, don’t count on any GOP wins.


4 posted on 04/16/2018 10:08:06 AM PDT by Ingtar
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To: SeekAndFind

I can think of reasons why Democrats would not like this.

Currently the Democrats can count on 55 electoral votes for president from California. Under this plan, I’m not sure they can count on all three new states automatically voting Democrat.


5 posted on 04/16/2018 10:09:01 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Ingtar

They’ll want PR, too, for an even state addition number.


6 posted on 04/16/2018 10:09:51 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: SeekAndFind
Break Northern California into Northern California and Jefferson and it could be fair, creating four states with likely four Democrat Senators and four Republican Senators. Or just give the Bay Area to California instead of Northern California.

One way or another, this has to happen. The current state is completely ungovernable, and systematic vote fraud has entrenched the worst kind of weasels into the higher offices.

7 posted on 04/16/2018 10:10:06 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: SeekAndFind

They need to continue the “State of California” a little further up the coast and include San Francisco, removing that area from the “State of Northern California” [aka - Jefferson]. That would almost guarantee that only California would be a guaranteed Democrat state; the other two would more likely be Republican states.


8 posted on 04/16/2018 10:10:20 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Come Hell or High Water - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQNUp9rgjNs&feature=youtu.be)
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That Jefferson idea got washed away. They intend to push in the entire bay area into the northern state. Pretty much guarantees that the measure won’t pass. They wanted to make sure each of the big three cities (SF, LA, San Diego) would end up as a capital.


9 posted on 04/16/2018 10:11:06 AM PDT by pepsionice
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With this initiative, they want to makes sure we have a permanent Dem controlled Senate.


10 posted on 04/16/2018 10:12:39 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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It doesn’t at all fix the Inland Empire complaints. Those counties, chaffing under domination by Sacramento, LA and SF still remain dominated by SF and Sacramento or, slightly better, San Diego and LA suburbs.

A two-state solution, with Silicon Valley and Sacramento united with LA makes much more sense. That won’t happen, though: Coastal California would have to relinquish control of its life blood to Inland California, and the population imbalance is still pretty severe.


11 posted on 04/16/2018 10:12:41 AM PDT by dangus
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To: BlueLancer

Gerrymandering on a grand scale...


12 posted on 04/16/2018 10:12:48 AM PDT by RBW in PA
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To: SeekAndFind

Notice that miserable Bay Area mess is thrown in with the NorCal region, which guarantees more dem Senators. Only the SoCal area would have a chance of being more to the political center.


13 posted on 04/16/2018 10:13:24 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberals, go find another country.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It needs to be divided into East and West California. That will truly be a political divide. East California will be more like Idaho.


14 posted on 04/16/2018 10:13:26 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Keepin' it analog.)
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To: treetopsandroofs

Assuming you mean Puerto Rico, that is a different topic.


15 posted on 04/16/2018 10:13:54 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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They can’t even handle the place as ONE State ????


16 posted on 04/16/2018 10:14:55 AM PDT by mason-dixon (As Mason said to Dixon, you have to draw the line somewhere.)
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No body wants six (6) senators....
<>blue state dream


17 posted on 04/16/2018 10:15:05 AM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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Do you live in California?


18 posted on 04/16/2018 10:15:11 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: BlueLancer

You got. That’s the way it should be done.

LA and SF must be in the same state.


19 posted on 04/16/2018 10:15:37 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

If all the “states” in California were the size of Vermont in terms of population that would make 65 states. And Wyoming has fewer people than Vermont (and more cows than people). Three states is too few. I’ve voted in all but one election since I was old enough to vote. The candidate that I voted for in Presidential, Senatorial and House elections has not won in 25 years with the exception of President Trump, and he didn’t win my state. I’m done with not being represented by virtue of living in my home state. I’m not moving. I want representative government and if that means more states, so be it.


20 posted on 04/16/2018 10:15:51 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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