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Estimating the Actual Death Rate Caused by Prescription Opioid Medication and Illicit Fentanyl
Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons ^ | 041618 | John D. Lilly, DO

Posted on 04/16/2018 1:23:33 PM PDT by grumpygresh

The U.S. is said to be suffering from a crisis in deaths from opioid overdoses, prompting legislative and other efforts to clamp down on physician prescribing of these drugs. This article is an effort to identify the causes of these deaths, using data from the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA)through 2015, and the Wonder database compiled by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

(Excerpt) Read more at jpands.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: addicts; crisis; darwin; fentanyl; junkies; karma; opioids; wod
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Searching the CDC Wonder database reveals that the recent spike in deaths is primarily due to illicit fentanyl. Targeting legal prescriptions is thus unlikely to reduce overdose deaths, but it may increase them by driving more users to illegal sources.
1 posted on 04/16/2018 1:23:33 PM PDT by grumpygresh
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To: grumpygresh

“Targeting legal prescriptions is thus unlikely to reduce overdose deaths, but it may increase them by driving more users to illegal sources.”

Yep. (Over)Regulation is not the answer.


2 posted on 04/16/2018 1:26:42 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG...)
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To: grumpygresh

Ha! Great post. Confirms exactly as I had long suspected.


3 posted on 04/16/2018 1:27:16 PM PDT by Obadiah (Truth is hate speech to those who hate truth.)
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To: grumpygresh

Well, you see, us swamp creatures get better bribes from the illegals.


4 posted on 04/16/2018 1:29:21 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: grumpygresh

May be of interest:

Oxycontin tweak helped turned addicts to heroin.

Link: https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/oxycontin-tweak-helped-turn-addicts-heroin/


5 posted on 04/16/2018 1:30:46 PM PDT by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: grumpygresh

My wife is a pharmacist and says the legal supply of fentanyl is so tight that she can’t get any for the hospital she works in.

That’s liberal thinking for you. They believe that cracking down of the legitimate and legal supply of fentanyl will suddenly make the illegal supply disappear. It’s worked so well for drugs that they want to apply it to guns.


6 posted on 04/16/2018 1:33:44 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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To: grumpygresh

The conflation of these fatality statistics is intentional to increase the scope of government.


7 posted on 04/16/2018 1:37:04 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: grumpygresh

This is well-known, but the Great War on Drugs is as unstoppable as a military entanglement in the Middle East. Taking pain medicine away from those who are suffering is not tantamount to torture; it is torture. If you did this to a prisoner of war, you’d be in violation of the Geneva Conventions. I pray everyone involved in this scurrilous deception is stricken with a chronic illness that leaves them writhing in pain for the rest of their miserable lives.


8 posted on 04/16/2018 1:51:09 PM PDT by antidisestablishment ( Xenophobia is the only sane response to multiculturalism’s irrational cultural exuberance)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

My next door neighbor is a Pharmacist. He says you see it very rarely in clinical context. At nearly 100x more powerful than morphine, he equates it to trying to carefully crack an egg with a sledgehammer. The few times he does see it is usually end of life pain management.

(Context - I’m a medical underwriter, we talk about these things.)


9 posted on 04/16/2018 1:52:45 PM PDT by BBQToadRibs
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The real victim of opioid abuse are those who must endure unbearable physical pain because of the ever heightening restrictions put on doctors who prescribe pain killers.

If an oncologist prescribes pain killers and the Feds don't like it, they can break that doctor, take aways his livelihood, and even imprison him.

It's not the job of the Federal government to decide who gets pain pills, and how many they are allowed. That is a private decision between doctor and patient.

And yet we always hear how abortion (i.e. infanticide) is "a private decision" between a woman and her doctor. Evidently just like with humans, to the Federal government, some "private decisions" are more equal than others.
 

10 posted on 04/16/2018 1:56:00 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (MAGA in the mornin', MAGA in the evenin', MAGA at suppertime . . .)
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A good friend of mine died last year. I helped his wife go through all his stuff after he died. He had many medical ills and had been prescribed opioids which he hardly took. While cleaning out his medical supplies we found probably over 1,000 pills. I said, “We have to destroy these.” She agreed. So, we put them all in a bucket, crushed them as best we could, and then poured motor oil over them and put them in a sealed container and put them in the trash. I told her that we could not trust handing them over to any entity for fear that they would be sold on the street. We did not flush them down the toilet.


11 posted on 04/16/2018 1:59:40 PM PDT by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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To: Cicero

The Chicoms are the major illicit fentanyl producers from what I’ve heard.


12 posted on 04/16/2018 1:59:54 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Abolish administrative law. It's regressive, medieval and unconstitutional!)
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>>The real victim of opioid abuse are those who must endure unbearable physical pain...And yet we always hear how abortion (i.e. infanticide) is “a private decision” between a woman and her doctor.

Very good points. We can’t “torture” a terrorist, but it is a “good” thing to withhold strong pain meds for a person dealing with very real pain.

I had a feeling that the actual data (as opposed to the statistics) would show that the “opioid crisis” is just another numbers game for the government to exert more control.


13 posted on 04/16/2018 2:02:10 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: AnalogReigns; grumpygresh
But it's worked so well with gun control!

Cities with the most draconian gun laws like Chicongo, DC, Balt'more, LA, San Fran are...

Wait...What?

Never mind....

14 posted on 04/16/2018 2:03:32 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: grumpygresh

Zactly.

Those morons are hurting people with legitimate pain, who are looking for relief.

If people want to off themselves with illicit drugs, let em...


15 posted on 04/16/2018 2:04:40 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: antidisestablishment

I agree.


16 posted on 04/16/2018 2:05:46 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: grumpygresh

I think this “opioid crisis” is just pretense to legalize weed.


17 posted on 04/16/2018 2:06:29 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Yes, Liberals, I question your patriotism)
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Mexico and China are the problems...not major drug companies...or physicians and surgeons.In recent years I've had two hip replacements and a hand operation and I will soon undergo a shoulder operation.In the previous procedures I was given about a week's worth of narcotics.I didn't need all of them so I threw the excess down the toilet.It was made clear to me each time,in a polite and matter-of-fact way,that I wouldn't need any more than I was given and I had no inclination to ask for more.

Nor will I ask for anything more than what I'm given for my upcoming procedure which the surgeon has warned me will be quite difficult.

As I said...China...Mexico...and weak,stupid people.

18 posted on 04/16/2018 2:18:11 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
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To: AnalogReigns
Because a minority of knukka-heads cram a handful of painkillers into their pie-holes and end up taking a dirt nap, the ferrule regulators step in and make it difficult for law abiding folks to get Rx's of these medications.

I've seen excruciating pain reduce great, strong men (dad and FnL) into whimpering weaklings.

Have they not learned that when you over regulate medications, people will just seek them through the black market. How many times do we have to repeat this nonsense?

19 posted on 04/16/2018 2:22:59 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: BBQToadRibs
The few times he does see it is usually end of life pain management.

$hit. I've been on Fentanyl for a year now. Oh well, been nice knowing everyone.

20 posted on 04/16/2018 2:23:25 PM PDT by Nachoman (Following victory, its best to reload.)
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