Skip to comments.America Faces One of Three Inevitable Paths: Unrest, Tyranny, or Divorce - Pick One
Posted on 04/23/2018 6:27:44 AM PDT by Kaslin
In a piece for The Federalist entitled, “It’s Time For The United States To Divorce Before Things Get Dangerous,” writer and former Marine corp combat veteran Jesse Kelly ruffled more than a few feathers with his contention that the time for the United States as a united nation may be nearing an inevitable end.
Comparing the Left and Right in America to “the couple screaming at each other all night, every night as the kids hide in their room,” Kelly cites a congenial divorce as the best option for a country that’s “hopelessly divided” on seemingly every important issue. He even tweeted a helpful accompanying map with a hand-drawn red line ceding the Left coast and the northern states to the liberal governance they deserve.
In his piece, Kelly cites issues from gun control to border security, issues that, while both sides hopelessly disagree, will soon prompt increasingly intolerant Leftists to “start coming for the careers (and lives) of any normal American who sees things differently.”
“We both now agree that living under the other side’s value system is wholly unacceptable,” writes Kelly. “The most peaceful solution we Americans can hope for now is to go our separate ways. So let us come together one last time and agree on one thing: Irreconcilable differences.”
Naturally, Kelly’s idea drew quite a lot of criticism. HotAir’s Jazz Shaw pondered the legality, logistics and workability of such a proposal, but didn’t seem to take a lot of issue with the underlying inevitability.
CNN commentator Sally Kohn took him on when Kelly’s controversial piece earned him an appearance on HLN’s S.E. Cupp Unfiltered. “I’m sure we could find plenty to disagree about, but I actually think there’s quite a lot we could agree on,” said Kohn, citing values like “unity, but also free speech, free assembly, freedom of religion” as well as “the idea that we should all be able to live up to our God-given full potential.”
Except, liberals don’t believe in free speech, much less free assembly. And they don’t really believe in freedom of religion either, at least if you’re a Christian. And that “God” in “God-given?” Are you serious, Kohn?
California State Controller candidate Konstantinos Roditis penned a rebuttal of Kelly’s argument from the right, arguing for a return to real federalism instead of creating more countries. “Jesse, it’s not time for a divorce,” writes Roditis. “It’s time we rise up and take our country back and finally break the shackles of overbearing centralized government and go back to our roots of self-government and self-determination.”
Sounds great, in theory. Let’s ‘take our country back’ and establish REAL small government! Problem is, on what planet will liberals with an already burgeoning near-supermajority possibly allow something like this? After all, Big Government is how these people get stuff done.
While the non-legal arguments against Kelly’s hypothesis seem pretty weak, they say little about what would be best for all parties involved. To a kid who grew up in the 80’s, before unadulterated political correctness infested America’s schools, “Manifest Destiny,” the idea that our settlers were destined to spread all the way from the Atlantic to the Pacific, seemed more common sense and a source of pride to me than controversial and worthy of shame. And even now, the idea of America splitting up pulls at the heartstrings just a little.
But let’s face it, America will never again be the America we grew up in. Progressivism has ruined it, and likely beyond repair. Beyond the idea of a nation spreading its wings and conquering the wilderness is that of self-governance, of people being free to live in the kind of place, and under the kind of government, of their choosing, whether what they choose is limited, Constitutional government or utter liberal lunacy.
To Roditis’ point, the states were supposed to be the vehicle for that, under a limited federal government, but we all know how THAT turned out. If we aren’t going to do federalism right, perhaps divorce is the only way forward.
Interestingly, Bill Hammond tweeted a link to both Kelly’s Federalist piece and a Medium article entitled “The Great Lesson of California in America’s New Civil War” from the Left under the caption “These two articles should be hate-read in tandem.” In the Medium piece, Peter Leyden cites California’s example as the way forward for a divisive America. Except, rather than let conservatives pave their own way as Kelly would, Leyden wants to establish “Democratic, progressive supermajorities” in the rest of America.
In other words - tyranny. And make no mistake, if liberals seize control via supermajorities, and they aren’t all that far off, tyranny is how they enact their insane, unworkable policies on the rest of us. Because from Soviet Russia to Communist China and socialist Venezuela, that’s what always happens when Leftists have unadulterated power.
Granted, the idea of bringing up an issue that was seemingly settled over 150 years ago might be quick to dismiss, but in an era when people can’t even agree on whether Donald Trump is a real person or the actual, physical spawn of Satan, how can we possibly reach a consensus on anything? Which means that whatever we do, half the country isn’t just going to be unhappy, they’ll be apoplectic.
And these days, the idea isn’t just coming from the Right. The Calexit movement would secede California from the United States entirely, and it’s more financed and organized than you might think. Perhaps it’s time to give them what they want.
“[Conservatives’ reasons for splitting] would be a major cultural shift toward the left and half the country refusing to go along with tyranny,” writes Kelly. Liberals’ reasons might be a desire to run things their own way without the adults in the room interfering. But either way, the way I see it there are three possibilities for America’s future - unrest, tyranny, or divorce.
We’re already seeing the unrest, and it’s happening on a massive scale as liberals #Resist literally every move President Trump makes.
Should these jackals eventually get their “permanent Democratic majority,” we’ll certainly see the tyranny.
Which leaves the one other option, that put forward in Kelly’s controversial piece. Sure, it won’t be this year, or this decade, or probably even in my lifetime, but its eventual inevitability seems as ‘destined’ as America’s historic expansion to the Pacific.
Unrest. Slaughter the liberals, change the laws, and we can get back to civility.
I am actually optimistic.
I see the economy doing well. Most people like that.
I see our foreign relations doing well. Most people like that.
I think we are about to see tremendous corruption and malfeasance exposed. Most people will be outraged.
There will always be a small percentage of Bolsheviks who hate Trump. But I think 80% of the American people will see him as a great president. I think this will happen soon. I think women, blacks, the young and the old will all rally to him.
I think the Democrats are already dead, they just don’t know it. I think the divide will be healed. Because there really is no good reason for the divide. It was always just a tool for the Globalists, and they are on their way out.
Nothing that gulag and re education camps and selective and sanctioned assassinations couldn't solve.
Personally, all I see is a President of the future declaring martial law over malcontent states and enforcing it with the U.S Army. I.E civil war.
Let’s fight it out over time at the ballot box
Right now liberals are on the run as they’ve been exposed
They keep digging
The key right now is taking D.C. Back
If Clinton comey lynch et al don’t face real jail time or the equivalent
It’s over in terms of equal justice
More speech More and more
I choose divorce and hope that it is an amicable one.
We can not live with them any longer and continue to pay for an out of control and corrupt government. We are forced to pay for their loony ideas and schemes that never work.
We have their bizarre culture shoved down our throats and their idiocy teaching our children. They are attempting to strip us of our identity and strip us of our religion. They would strip us of our faith if they could.
We are mocked and belittled by the media, the entertainment industry and yes, by the very people who are elected to represent us. This can not go on...we just can’t live with them anymore.
One side has 3 trillion bullets, and the other side can’t figure out which bathroom to use.
I also want to thank Jesse Kelly for his service.
Agreed. The MSM-Democrats spent the first year or two bashing Reagan, although they didn’t try to manufacture a scandal about the Russians, for obvious reasons.
As the economy improved, they toned it down a bit, but they never stopped hating him. They ginned up “Iran-Contra” in his second term, but it ran out of steam. When the Berlin Wall came down, it was all forgotten. I know that was the year he left office, but still.
The chances are good that Trump will be seen as a great President.
“One side has 3 trillion bullets,”
I hate to tell you this, but from all my observations and “research”, the liberals have just as many guns and as much ammo.
I’ve asked many gunshop owners and store managers and they agree that it’s a 50/50 mix of customers. A lot of those “redneck” types are liberal Democrats. Many elderly are Democrats.
I was in a store at Christmas 2008 when an elderly hunter type came in and proclaimed he was buying guns because Obama was going to ban them...and he voted for Obama.
I am positive that he will be, no matter what the so-called "Historians" claim
>>I am actually optimistic.
I read your reasons and they all assume rational thinking. If one believes in free markets and/or Christianity, then Progressivism is irrational at its core.
The greatest tool we have to force rationality on them is to make a realistic threat to separate. Then we watch the Prog leaders start backtracking on their claims of utopia as they realize that all the skilled people and people who are not over educated to the level of being useless will choose the Red states over the Blue. On Day One, their socialist utopia is doomed unless they can FORCE us to be in it, serving them with our skills and knowledge while they sit in judgement above us, making Five Year Plans and then remaking them while they blame the workers for failing to meet production quotas again and again.
Optimism in this case ignores human nature and a century of history.
Give us KY and WV and we have a winner....................
Nonsense...America has always had differences between it’s citizens, some periods of time more, some less. Heck, we fought a war over four years that pitted brother against brother, in some cases, and still survived to become stronger. Contrary to what the mass media and social media would have us believe, Americans have a lot of tolerance for diversity in thought...it’s what makes us great, just don’t force your thoughts on me, and I won’t force mine on you. However, what we don’t, and shouldn’t tolerate, is a failure in the rule of law...and that does appear to be a problem over the last 10 years, or so. That can become a sticky problem if Americans lose their trust in institutions that are supposed to be fair, and impartial, re: “blind”, in the application of the law.
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Political solutions are dead. Demographics are now permanently against us and will continue to worsen. Trump is just an 8 year delay / reprieve.
Screw divorce. I’m not giving up the coasts in order to let them be run by the mentally ill or Mexico.
War - and the sooner the better. Right now we still have the majority of the police, Army and Marines on our side.
And yes, I have been in the middle of civil wars and I know what I am advocating. It doesn’t make me happy.
I agree with most of your points except for the democrats being dead. The party may die but the indoctrination of several generations in our schools can not be turned around very quickly. The economic side can not outweigh the cultural side. If it does then we will have no moral standards and we all know what happens then.
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