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Michael Moore: The Military Will Side With Democrats Against Trump
Real Time via Youtube ^ | 06/29/18

Posted on 07/02/2018 2:51:41 PM PDT by Enlightened1

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To: Enlightened1

We have one incident in our history where military had to make a decision- the US CW. About 30% of the officers went south....

Regarding the rank and file troopers they will do what their commanders order them to do. The best hope is that the DOD orders all personnel to stand down, return to base/unit and await orders. We do not need our military to dirty itself with civil affairs.

National Guard will be directed by their governors to quell riots etc ( maybe) as they have LE authorities under the state, but not under the fed gov unless rebellion or insurrection, that is a wide lens to look through.


101 posted on 07/02/2018 6:21:00 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Enlightened1

I have not laughed so hard in so long.........

Not!

Semper Fidelis. Even if I have to take it to the streets to defend the US Constitution against all enemies....


102 posted on 07/02/2018 8:51:00 PM PDT by Oiao (Socialism Kills - We are a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy)
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To: RatRipper

Is the fat ugly communist saying Obama seeded the Military with traitors and communists?

If that’s the case Trump needs to fire a whole lot of traitors. And quickly.


103 posted on 07/02/2018 9:07:14 PM PDT by GOPJ ( BEST REASON TO STOP immigration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-s1_nfs7f4)
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To: beethovenfan
The military HATED Obama and they LOVE Trump.

What matters is the people at the top.... Has Trump dumped any communists placed in our military. If not he needs to do it before the 'election' - one democrats will do major fraud to win.

104 posted on 07/02/2018 9:10:22 PM PDT by GOPJ ( BEST REASON TO STOP immigration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-s1_nfs7f4)
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To: Enlightened1
Michael Moore: The Military Will Side With Democrats Against Trump

Proof positive that Moore has his head so far up his A$$ that he could check himself for bladder cancer.

105 posted on 07/02/2018 9:13:56 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Enlightened1

Mad Dog Mattis thinks otherwise.


106 posted on 07/02/2018 9:20:21 PM PDT by Doctor Freeze
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To: Pox
Obama worked hard to stuff his fellow travelers into our military. It will take a generation to clean it out, IMO.

Trump needs to dump any traitors...

107 posted on 07/02/2018 9:30:09 PM PDT by GOPJ ( BEST REASON TO STOP immigration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-s1_nfs7f4)
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To: sergeantdave

There’s gonna be massive voter fraud in the midterms... by corrupt democrats...


108 posted on 07/02/2018 9:39:34 PM PDT by GOPJ ( BEST REASON TO STOP immigration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-s1_nfs7f4)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks for the snide comment. I started out enlisted, went to OCS, spent 32 years in harness, and retired as an O-5.

But, keep on throwing the shots, Buddy...whatever makes you feel good.


109 posted on 07/03/2018 4:48:37 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (The Democrats in California want another civil war over cheap labor!)
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To: mrmeyer

I thought the Tarhe was retired!

That is the only one that could possibly lift his fat ass!

I saw one at Sill in ‘65 when I was in OCS, transporting six 105mms in a ring arrangement, with their lunettes and wheel hubs connected. Pretty neat, but a bitch to move into battery once delivered!


110 posted on 07/03/2018 4:56:22 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (The Democrats in California want another civil war over cheap labor!)
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To: Enlightened1

Haha! Absolutely not!

If there was a split it would be about 95 to 5% split for President Trump, the rule of law and the U.S. Constitution.
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I think 95% is a pipe-dream number. I remember quite vividly how during the Vietnam War there were major protests in the US and many called for revolution. There was an embarrassingly large number of military who claimed in barracks talk that they would join in any actual anti-government rebellion. To me that was scary because I couldn’t imagine fighting my own country. The glue that held them in line was leadership. Leadership that commanded either respect or fear among the men.

I believe most military personnel will follow their leaders and chain of command even if they know or suspect it isn’t the moral or ethical thing to do. If a well-respected unit leader defects he can take a majority of the men with him, providing he can give them believable reasoning. Many others will also go out of fear of reprisals if they refuse.

Does anyone think ALL the men at My Lai wanted to massacre a village? Or that ALL the Germans at Malmedy wanted to massacre American prisoners? Or that ALL the Germans at Auschwitz wanted to kill all the Jews. They ALL followed the orders of their superiors, probably out of fear, regardless of what the Nuremberg Trials concluded. A lone private isn’t going to be the only person in his unit to stand up and defy a colonel. I’ve seen it happen, but the example made of him most certainly discouraged others.

Men stood in tight lines at Gettysburg while the enemy mowed them down wholesale. Some stayed for personal pride or “patriotism”, most stayed because they feared the shame from their peers and the reprisals of their superiors. Same at the Somme. Men slowly walked into machine guns to nearly certain death because they were afraid not to. If a man is afraid NOT to follow an order, he makes a very good soldier in the eyes of his officers.

In the case of a US rebellion it depends on the leadership on the unit level. The whole military will not rebel ever, but it must be planned ahead that a significant portion will. Much of the leadership in the US has been tainted by rabid liberalism, and that greatly affects lower leadership and by extension the men in the rank and file. Yes, 95% is ridiculous. I believe Pox was more correct, though I doubt half the military would defect either.


111 posted on 07/03/2018 7:12:59 AM PDT by Gideon300
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To: Redleg Duke

I was referring to Larry Wilkerson, the loser in the video, not a guy like you who came up from the ranks. Why so touchy?


112 posted on 07/03/2018 3:13:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh, being spit upon while in uniform, back in the 60s and 70s might have something to do with it.


113 posted on 07/04/2018 5:09:08 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (The Democrats in California want another civil war over cheap labor!)
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To: Redleg Duke

My brother-in-law made lieutenant colonel out of Army ROTC at Iowa State as the honor graduate. That’s not bad. But if you’re an academy graduate and you only get to O-5, you might want to reevaluate your trek upwards. OTOH I knew several land grant college general officers.
Just my Spec/6 two cents.


114 posted on 07/04/2018 8:26:59 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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maybe O6s and higher, since Zero purged the mil, but enlisted and field grade officers? No way.


115 posted on 07/04/2018 8:32:25 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Enlightened1; onyx; KC_Lion; Vendome; Gaffer

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116 posted on 07/08/2018 2:22:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ROFLMTO...Mitt Romney? LOL...he already tried running for President, this is craziness on left!


117 posted on 07/08/2018 2:23:24 PM PDT by Ambrosia (Born in NC, then PA, NY,WV, NM, SC, and FL & back God/Freedom=Priority!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
LOL!

A: What a Putz.

B. A Million bucks ain't much of an incentive for Mittens, Pony up some more Billy!

118 posted on 07/08/2018 2:48:15 PM PDT by KC_Lion (If you want on First Lady Melania's, Ivanka Trump's or Sarah Palin's Ping Lists, just let me know.)
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