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Latino groups intervene in Alabama census lawsuit
The Hill ^ | 07/12/18 | Rafael Bernal

Posted on 07/12/2018 8:42:40 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

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Stop counting illegal aliens and Democrat-controlled states lose money and representation.
1 posted on 07/12/2018 8:42:40 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: Liz; AuntB; greyfoxx39; La Lydia; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; ...

Now the illegal aliens are trying to claim they are being treated as 3/5 a person...black slaves...


2 posted on 07/12/2018 8:46:15 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: yesthatjallen

Do facts matter to anyone?

Nobody is seeking to exclude illegal aliens from the census. What they plan to do, is ask if people are US citizens.

Asking a question about citizenship is not excluding anyone from the census.


3 posted on 07/12/2018 8:48:14 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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“One legal outcome of the Civil War was a Constitution that abandons the previous ‘3/5 rule’ and treats all persons as full ‘persons’

You are ZERO-fifths of a person, Illega.

You wanna go to Civil War over it, bitch?

4 posted on 07/12/2018 8:48:48 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The New York Times is so openly dishonest, even their crossword puzzles lie.)
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To: yesthatjallen

They ARE being counted. We want to know how many citizens and how many illegal aliens


5 posted on 07/12/2018 8:48:53 AM PDT by McGavin999 ("The press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood."Thomas Jeffersons)
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To: Tennessee Nana

*rolls eyes*


6 posted on 07/12/2018 8:50:20 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: yesthatjallen
Opponents of the citizenship question argue that some people will be deterred from taking the census if it means answering questions related to immigration status.

Well, if they are here illegally, then they won't answer, and we will get an accurate count of citizens. And if they answer that they are not citizens, we get an accurate count of citizens. So, unless they lie, we get an accurate count. I don't see the problem, unless you want fraud.

7 posted on 07/12/2018 8:50:31 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Lazamataz

Yep. When blacks were freed after the 1st civil war, they were made citizens by law. Big difference.


8 posted on 07/12/2018 8:50:58 AM PDT by DownInFlames (Gals)
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To: yesthatjallen

I treat them as 2 /5 ths


9 posted on 07/12/2018 8:53:15 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Asking a question about citizenship is not excluding anyone from the census


There argument is, that the citizenship question will scare away illegals from participating in the census and thus they won’t get counted, and thus California will lose representation. Since illegals have already disregarded US law, it’s not a stretch to think they’d disregard US law requiring cooperation with the census.


10 posted on 07/12/2018 8:53:59 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: yesthatjallen

Why is it reporters can find a gathering of illegals but ICE is nowhere to be found?


11 posted on 07/12/2018 9:01:45 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: yesthatjallen

“Even more contemptible, the current administration cannot be trusted to defend against the sordid lawsuit because the president and other administration officials regularly treat immigrants, in rhetoric and in practice, as less than human.”

There are about 7 billion people in the world, and virtually all of them are affected by the outcome of US elections. Shouldn’t they all be allowed to choose our President? Why should they have to go through the inconvenience of traveling here? Doesn’t their exclusion from the census make them “less than human”?


12 posted on 07/12/2018 9:02:02 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: hanamizu

Since the census is used to apportion representation in Congress, and since only citizens are legally authorized to vote for those representatives, being able to count actual citizens, separate from illegals, sounds like a good idea to me.


13 posted on 07/12/2018 9:04:24 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Might seem like a good idea, but it would not really be following the Constitution. At the time it was adopted, women, slaves, many men, & children could not vote, yet they were still counted (if only 3/5s in the case of slaves) to apportion representation. To count only citizens for representation would require an amendment, I think.


14 posted on 07/12/2018 9:18:10 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Tennessee Nana

Thanks for the ping.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-s1_nfs7f4


15 posted on 07/12/2018 9:23:21 AM PDT by GOPJ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-s1_nfs7f4 STOP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-IsingvI_I)
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To: Tennessee Nana

the 3/5ths decision was a victory for the abolitionists.

only counting citizens is a defeat for the open borders crowd.


16 posted on 07/12/2018 9:27:35 AM PDT by joshua c (To disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives. Do nothing and we lose.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

If they want representation they should go home, but then of course Mexicans still vote in Mexicos elections even when their U.S. citizens, don’t they? It’s funny, or not, I thought that a naturalized citizen had renounce all loyalty to foreign governments.


17 posted on 07/12/2018 9:32:44 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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They do...

I had to raise my right hand and swear that I renounced my allegiance from my prior country New Zealand BEFORE I was allowed to be naturalized as an American citizen...it was part of the legal process...there is no such thing as dual citizenship in America...


18 posted on 07/12/2018 9:39:19 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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Dear States,

If you want people who are residing in this country illegally to remain in your state. You pay for them.


19 posted on 07/12/2018 9:44:02 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: hanamizu

Good points.

In my opinion, everyone should be counted, but at the same time, we should know how many non citizens are here.

Just because someone is not a citizen, doesn’t mean that someone is here illegally.

If I recall correctly, after previous censuses, the census bureau issued estimates of the numbers of people who were not counted.


20 posted on 07/12/2018 9:44:30 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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