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Putin says there are 'powerful forces' trying to undermine US-Russia relations
CNBC ^ | July 19th, 2018 | Holly Ellyatt

Posted on 07/19/2018 6:28:41 AM PDT by Mariner

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said there are "forces" at work that are trying to hamper an improvement in U.S.-Russia relations.

Commenting on his summit with President Donald Trump in Helsinki, Finland, on Monday, Putin said, "We see that there are forces in the United States that are prepared to casually sacrifice Russian-U.S. relations, to sacrifice them for their ambitions in the course of an internal political battle in the United States," Reuters reported.

Speaking after meeting Russian diplomats at the foreign ministry in Moscow, Putin added that "those forces are powerful" and that they were trying to "disown the summit results." Putin did not name or specify what kind of forces he was alluding to.

Trump and Putin's summit in Finland caused a furor after Trump appeared to publicly question the U.S. intelligence community's conclusion that Russia meddled in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Putin denied that Russia interfered in the U.S. democratic process and Trump said that the Russian president was "extremely strong and powerful in his denial."

Trump's comments prompted a rebuke from Republicans and Democrats alike and ex-CIA chief John Brennan said the remarks were "nothing short of treasonous."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: eu; europeanunion
The Neoconservatives have firmly aligned themselves with the international left and media.

Strange bedfellows. They were mortal enemies until Obama.

Perhaps that was his "fundamental transformation". He brought the anti-Russian communists home.

1 posted on 07/19/2018 6:28:41 AM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner

I’ll buy that.


2 posted on 07/19/2018 6:29:31 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Mariner

The Left is globalist and socialist. They viscerally hate Trump and Putin. Both have embraced capitalism, nationalism and secure borders. They mourn the passing of that great champion of globalism and socialism, the Soviet Union. They view Putin as a traitor.


3 posted on 07/19/2018 6:32:40 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: Mariner

This is Putin attempting to stir trouble for Trump in Nov. .

He had his fun with Hillary and Obama now he’s doing the same to Trump by reinforcing how cuddly he is with Trump in the yes of critics.

It’s really easy to get Americans to eat their own as polarized as everyone is.


4 posted on 07/19/2018 6:41:39 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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"trying to undermine US-Russia relations"

You can never really trust Putin, nevertheless he may be preparing his country for somewhat closer ties with the US.

5 posted on 07/19/2018 6:42:38 AM PDT by GonzoII ("If the new crime be, to believe in God, let us all be criminals" -Sheen)
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To: piasa

We did the same thing to Iraq and Iran in the Tanker War.


6 posted on 07/19/2018 6:42:46 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Mariner

Rumor has it the soccer ball contained Hillary’s missing emails and the contents of the missing DNC server.

That’s why the Deeper’s are so worried.


7 posted on 07/19/2018 6:43:28 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is what I read in the papers.)
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To: piasa

“This is Putin attempting to stir trouble for Trump in Nov. .”

Please help us understand how that would be in Russia’s best interest.


8 posted on 07/19/2018 6:46:36 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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It’s Carroll Quigley’s Anglo-American Establishment that he spent 20 years researching for his book “Tragedy and Hope”. It’s the American oligarchs and the older European ones. Rockefellers, Rothschilds, du Ponts, Morgan, Mellon, and many more we don’t know the names of. They sensed Germany’s rise in late 1800s and planned Germany’s destruction with WW1, the rise of Hitler and WW2.


9 posted on 07/19/2018 6:52:47 AM PDT by Vic S
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I think he's quite right about that.

10 posted on 07/19/2018 6:54:35 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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Who was the first to ‘stir trouble’ - Putin or big media?

Where does the ‘Russians are bad, bad, bad!’ meme come from 24/7?

President Trump has the international experience to cultivate a working relationship with Vlad, if not make Russia a friend of the USA.

Everyone should leave the President alone and stop interfering.


11 posted on 07/19/2018 6:55:01 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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Maybe Putin should stop giving the Neo-cons ammunition to fight with.


12 posted on 07/19/2018 7:07:05 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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"Trump appeared to publicly question the U.S. intelligence community"

The ICA (intelligence community assessment) is the product of the Obama people at the core of the allegations of collusion. Some have suggested Strock's authorship with Brennan's and Comey's and Clapper's input. The political management teams of these departments are the problem. Many departments of the government are colluding with the media to undermine the President and the republicans are. to a great extent, allowing it to happen.

13 posted on 07/19/2018 7:08:06 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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They sensed Germany’s rise in late 1800s and planned Germany’s destruction with WW1, the rise of Hitler and WW2. ........................... OK, now that my coffee has passed through my nose, and the coughing has stopped, are we going to hear about how the Jooz controlled everything next? Where did Quigley get all that information from? The Sturmfront or Mein Kampf? It was the age of Imperialism and industrialization, national greed had more to do with it, everyone was out to grab something. The world powers just preyed upon the weak and them competed to be the one on top of the hill. There are soooo many scenarios, opinions and theories out there that is considered historical fact. Will we ever know the truth? Those who lived through those years are long gone. Their unwritten testimonies are like “tears in the rain”.


14 posted on 07/19/2018 7:12:19 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (?? forgetaboutit.)
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No, they were not enemies (mortal or otherwise) they were allies all along.

The existence of peons within the lower rungs of either camp who did not pay attention to who the leadership was and what they were about does not in any way mean that they were not an alliance.

15 posted on 07/19/2018 7:17:12 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

He got it from the Council on Foreign Relations archive (he was their archivist) and books by Anthony Sutton and others. Here’s a website “Tragedy and Hope 101” that gives you the cliff notes. The book itself is a boring 1300 pages. http://www.joeplummer.com/

And I never said anything about jews. In fact, zionism appears to just be another dialectic, first talked about in the 1840s by Lord Palmerston.

Here’s the intro to Dr Guido Preparata’s book “Conjuring Hitler”

Guido Preparata: “Conjuring Hitler (2005)”

In the first 50 years of the 20th century witness Britains determination to annihilate the threat of German hegemony on the continental landmass. The British Empire feared that a possible merger of the German Reich with the Russian Czarist Empire might have given birth to a much greater Eurasian alliance. A fastness in the heart of Eurasia would of attracted in its orbit men, resources and geographical advantages in such numbers that it would have threatened and eventually foiled British imperial domination across the world. To prevent such an alliance Britain embarked upon an extraordinary feat of aggression which began with the great war 1914-1918, this act followed up by the 15 year long incubation of Hitlerism which Britain would eventually need to set up Germany and the 2 front world conflict that would have sanctioned the erasure of the German rivalry once and for all.

Lord Balfour had an interview in 1912 where he told the reporter that Germany was surpassing England in industrial power. The interviewer replied, “Well, couldn’t we try harder?” Balfour replied, “No, I think it will be war.”


16 posted on 07/19/2018 7:24:30 AM PDT by Vic S
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Putin says there are 'powerful forces' trying to undermine US-Russia relations

Well Vlad, you have demonstrated a capability and propensity to "eliminate" certain problems.

17 posted on 07/19/2018 7:32:37 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ('DEPLORABLE' Charter Member of The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy - and DAMN Proud of it!.)
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Putin is absolutely correct! Despite familial and ethnic relationships that go back as far as Catherine the Great, Russian leaders have been just as distrustful of the European elites as have Americans - at least some of us, that is.


18 posted on 07/19/2018 7:32:47 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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Namely the msm.


19 posted on 07/19/2018 8:13:20 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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Putin is right! There are forces in the American media and in politics that would gladly restart the ‘Cold War’. That is so obvious it is glaring. Look at all the democrat senators who are critizing Trump for being so peaceful with Putin.


20 posted on 07/19/2018 4:10:37 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent (.)
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