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Found: 14,400-Year-Old Flatbread Remains That Predate Agriculture
Atlas Obscura ^ | 16JUL18 | PAULA MEJIA

Posted on 07/23/2018 11:30:19 PM PDT by vannrox

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That’s no longer the case. Today, a team of researchers from the University of Copenhagen, the University College London, and the University of Cambridge released a paper in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences detailing their discovery of 14,400-year-old crumbs from a flatbread. The archaeological site, known as Shubayqa 1, is located in the Black Desert of northeastern Jordan and was home to Natufian hunter-gatherers. The flatbread remains are not only the oldest instance of bread found to date, but also preeminent examples of how bread-making existed even before agriculture developed some 4,000 years later.

“Nobody had found any direct evidence for production of bread, so the fact that bread predates agriculture is kind of stunning,” says Tobias Richter, a University of Copenhagen archaeologist who co-authored the paper. “Because making bread is quite labor-intensive, and you don’t necessarily get a huge return for it. So it doesn’t seem like an economical thing to do.” That’s because breadmaking doesn’t just involve baking: Back then, it would have also involved kneading, grinding cereals into fine grains, and dehusking plants.

Before the find at Shubayqa 1, the closest evidence of bread-like cereal meals had been identified at the Neolithic site Çatalhöyük, in Turkey. “We really didn’t think up until now that in the Natufian [period], people were making bread,” he adds. “We’ve just pushed that 5,000 years earlier.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: agriculture; animalhusbandry; bread; dietandcuisine; discovery; food; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; huntergatherers; jordan; old; shubayqa1
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14,000 years old bread. Amazing stuff.
1 posted on 07/23/2018 11:30:19 PM PDT by vannrox
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To: SunkenCiv

Heads up.


2 posted on 07/23/2018 11:31:02 PM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: vannrox

I know a couple of stores that try to sell it. Always check the dates.


3 posted on 07/23/2018 11:32:07 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (screanigng t)
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To: vannrox

Did the scientist who said the himalayas would melt in 2020 date this? Im a simple girl, but bread without havesting and milling (agriculture)is called a miracle.. maybe its manna.


4 posted on 07/23/2018 11:42:28 PM PDT by momincombatboots (No Wall, No Way 2020)
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To: momincombatboots
bread without havesting and milling (agriculture)is called a miracle..

Agriculture is the planting and replanting of the seed, tilling the soil, watering, then harvesting.

Obviously, there were wild grains long before agriculture, and still are. Those were harvested for food.

Most likely the early grains were prepared as bulgar (boiled and mashed) before more advanced milling equipment (i.e. flat rock) was discovered or built.

5 posted on 07/24/2018 12:01:13 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: vannrox
America_Is_Addicted_To_Flatbread
6 posted on 07/24/2018 12:08:34 AM PDT by CaliforniaCraftBeer
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To: vannrox

You think that’s old? Check my refrigerator.


7 posted on 07/24/2018 12:57:40 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Maybe making beer? The water was unsafe.


8 posted on 07/24/2018 1:03:16 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing! Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a doctor and I won't touch that thing)
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To: vannrox

Antideluvian sammiches.


9 posted on 07/24/2018 1:34:47 AM PDT by Flick Lives (Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation.)
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To: vannrox
Big deal.

I've got Chinese take-out in my refrigerator older than that.

10 posted on 07/24/2018 2:33:33 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Heheh. I should have read the thread (and your comment) before posting.


11 posted on 07/24/2018 2:34:26 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: vannrox

More proof that academia is clueless. No one would start planting grains unless they knew what to make with it before hand.


12 posted on 07/24/2018 2:54:49 AM PDT by Clean_Sweep
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To: vannrox
"14,000 years old bread. Amazing stuff."

The first Wonder Bread?
13 posted on 07/24/2018 3:11:46 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: vannrox

Gobeki Tepe wheat first grew wild.


14 posted on 07/24/2018 3:26:33 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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14,400-year-old crumbs from a flatbread.

Story is fake, my refrigerator isn't that old......

15 posted on 07/24/2018 3:29:38 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I once found a needle in a haystack but it wasn't the one I was looking for...)
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To: vannrox

“Back then, it would have also involved kneading, grinding cereals into fine grains, and dehusking plants. “

Isn’t that kind of backwards? No wonder it wasn’t worth the trouble.


16 posted on 07/24/2018 3:47:21 AM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: vannrox

Pre History Flatbread!

Aliens.

I am not saying it’s aliens.

But, it’s Aliens!


17 posted on 07/24/2018 4:19:36 AM PDT by TheNext
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To: meadsjn

“Obviously, there were wild grains long before agriculture, and still are. Those were harvested for food.”

That matches what a British documentary I watched recently reported. First hunter-gatherers. Then, over 12,000 years ago they supplemented meat with wild grains. Grain had the added benefit that it did not spoil like meat so it supported their nomadic lifestyle.

Of interest is the megafauna die off was around 12,000 years ago. This likely forced the transition of hunter-gatherers who supplemented their diet with grains to full time farmers of grain. Combined with animal husbandry it provided a suitable replacement for hunting and gathering. They grew it all themselves out of necessity.

The documentary identified the area around the sea of Galilee as having been an early settlement of resident farmers. The grains found there were imported from the northeast. With the death of the megafauna the nomadic hunter gatherers were forced to settle and grown their own crops and maintain livestock.


18 posted on 07/24/2018 4:36:46 AM PDT by Justa
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To: vannrox

I doubt it.


19 posted on 07/24/2018 4:40:55 AM PDT by bert ((K. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... In our cities will be burning))
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Some convenience stores are probably older..


20 posted on 07/24/2018 4:41:39 AM PDT by wally_bert (Just call me Angelo or babe.)
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