Skip to comments.Found: 14,400-Year-Old Flatbread Remains That Predate Agriculture
Posted on 07/23/2018 11:30:19 PM PDT by vannrox
Thats no longer the case. Today, a team of researchers from the University of Copenhagen, the University College London, and the University of Cambridge released a paper in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences detailing their discovery of 14,400-year-old crumbs from a flatbread. The archaeological site, known as Shubayqa 1, is located in the Black Desert of northeastern Jordan and was home to Natufian hunter-gatherers. The flatbread remains are not only the oldest instance of bread found to date, but also preeminent examples of how bread-making existed even before agriculture developed some 4,000 years later.
Nobody had found any direct evidence for production of bread, so the fact that bread predates agriculture is kind of stunning, says Tobias Richter, a University of Copenhagen archaeologist who co-authored the paper. Because making bread is quite labor-intensive, and you dont necessarily get a huge return for it. So it doesnt seem like an economical thing to do. Thats because breadmaking doesnt just involve baking: Back then, it would have also involved kneading, grinding cereals into fine grains, and dehusking plants.
Before the find at Shubayqa 1, the closest evidence of bread-like cereal meals had been identified at the Neolithic site Çatalhöyük, in Turkey. We really didnt think up until now that in the Natufian [period], people were making bread, he adds. Weve just pushed that 5,000 years earlier.
I know a couple of stores that try to sell it. Always check the dates.
Did the scientist who said the himalayas would melt in 2020 date this? Im a simple girl, but bread without havesting and milling (agriculture)is called a miracle.. maybe its manna.
Agriculture is the planting and replanting of the seed, tilling the soil, watering, then harvesting.
Obviously, there were wild grains long before agriculture, and still are. Those were harvested for food.
Most likely the early grains were prepared as bulgar (boiled and mashed) before more advanced milling equipment (i.e. flat rock) was discovered or built.
You think that’s old? Check my refrigerator.
Maybe making beer? The water was unsafe.
I've got Chinese take-out in my refrigerator older than that.
Heheh. I should have read the thread (and your comment) before posting.
More proof that academia is clueless. No one would start planting grains unless they knew what to make with it before hand.
Gobeki Tepe wheat first grew wild.
Story is fake, my refrigerator isn't that old......
“Back then, it would have also involved kneading, grinding cereals into fine grains, and dehusking plants. “
Isn’t that kind of backwards? No wonder it wasn’t worth the trouble.
Pre History Flatbread!
I am not saying it’s aliens.
But, it’s Aliens!
“Obviously, there were wild grains long before agriculture, and still are. Those were harvested for food.”
That matches what a British documentary I watched recently reported. First hunter-gatherers. Then, over 12,000 years ago they supplemented meat with wild grains. Grain had the added benefit that it did not spoil like meat so it supported their nomadic lifestyle.
Of interest is the megafauna die off was around 12,000 years ago. This likely forced the transition of hunter-gatherers who supplemented their diet with grains to full time farmers of grain. Combined with animal husbandry it provided a suitable replacement for hunting and gathering. They grew it all themselves out of necessity.
The documentary identified the area around the sea of Galilee as having been an early settlement of resident farmers. The grains found there were imported from the northeast. With the death of the megafauna the nomadic hunter gatherers were forced to settle and grown their own crops and maintain livestock.
I doubt it.
Some convenience stores are probably older..
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