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MS-13, Violent and Unruly, Is Trying to OrganizeóCan It?
Wall Street Journal ^ | August 19, 2018 | Del Quentin Wilber

Posted on 08/20/2018 2:49:13 AM PDT by reaganaut1

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For years, MS-13’s impact on the U.S. was local—confined to specific neighborhoods and cities scattered across the country as the gang used violence to secure and hold turf.

Then, federal officials tracked an alarming development. As MS-13’s influence grew, so did its ambition to leverage its network of local franchises into a cohesive, national brand. That would vault MS-13 into territory once occupied by the Mafia, and now held by Mexican drug cartels.

A series of trials that wrapped up this summer in Boston shows how MS-13 is pushing to make that leap by streamlining its management structure and creating uniform standards, much like a multinational company. The question, one that will determine whether MS-13 can make the jump to national significance, is whether that transformation can impose order on its unruly, violent young members.

The group, partly because of its success in the U.S., has become a political football, with President Trump and Attorney General Jeff Sessions using gruesome acts by MS-13 members to push the administration’s tight immigration policy. The attorney general has called MS-13 “one of the most dangerous groups in America,” while Mr. Trump has declared its members to be “thugs” and “animals.” Democrats and lawmakers in favor of looser restrictions say their rhetoric is overblown.

Federal and state law-enforcement officials say MS-13 gang membership has grown by several thousand members over the past decade or so. It stretches to at least 40 states and the District of Columbia, according to the Justice Department.

“They have definitely showed their organizational capacity in terms of ordering violence and in terms of recruiting and replenishing the ranks,” said Derek N. Benner, a top official at the Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Homeland Security Investigations.

(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: aliens; ms13; ms15isworse; no
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1 posted on 08/20/2018 2:49:13 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

The Democrats are organizizzzed!


2 posted on 08/20/2018 2:59:02 AM PDT by ChiMark (America America)
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To: reaganaut1

Don’t jail and try them in court, and then imprison them at US Taxpayers’ expense.
Simply kill them on capture.
Maggots and vultures gotta eat, too.


3 posted on 08/20/2018 3:17:55 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Life is simpler when you plow around the stump.)
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To: reaganaut1; Chode; snooter55; All

I was at a Training Class for WMD & Terrorism when I was in the Water Treatment Business.

At one point the Teacher (who was from The Department of Homeland Security) asked who We would consider to be a Threat to a Treatment Plant or Distribution System?

Several Operaters said: upset customers, eco nuts, etc.

I tossed out MS-13 and She gave Me a look of suprise then spun and added it to the list on the Whiteboard.

Shortly after that We broke for Lunch. I’d brought Mine being the cheap (or frugal depending on Your view) type. She waited till most people were gone and then came over and asked how I knew about MS-13. Now this was back before they were widely known like Today.

I told Her from “My news and info site”

She asked what site is that? I told Her FR. She says I think I’ve heard of that one, I think. As she jotted it on a little notepad she had, slipped it in her pocket and changed the subject to where I was from.


4 posted on 08/20/2018 3:21:33 AM PDT by mabarker1 (congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: carriage_hill

YES!!!! I thought that i was the only one to say that.


5 posted on 08/20/2018 3:23:06 AM PDT by mabarker1 (congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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If MS 13 were smart they would align with the progressives and get their protection. As in the 1930s, fascism needs thugs to intimidate and bully decent people.

Of course, I wish MS 13 failure at every turn.


6 posted on 08/20/2018 4:11:13 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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The dems are hoping they can organize before November.


7 posted on 08/20/2018 4:17:52 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (GOP- 65 House and 12 Senate seat pickups in November)
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To: mabarker1
shoot on site, no limit
8 posted on 08/20/2018 4:21:47 AM PDT by Chode ( We’re America, Bitch!)
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Think of MS-13 as a herd of wild beasts and it would be easier to think of it as merely a culling of the herd. Forget the tranquilizer darts, radio-transmission collars and streaming GPS bullshit...Let's just do this thing because those animals are going to want to shoot back.
9 posted on 08/20/2018 4:40:09 AM PDT by equaviator (`)
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“Don’t jail, try then imprison them”

Cain’t sheep dip’m and in view of their mindset and documented performance, what else is a feller to do? Some form of extra-judicial justice? “Gangs” have been with US since day-one but those of recent Mexican or Central-American origin have been tolerated far too long.


10 posted on 08/20/2018 4:47:10 AM PDT by Huaynero
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Here is the left’s response (barf alert)

https://www.propublica.org/article/vox-propublica-video-truth-about-ms-13


11 posted on 08/20/2018 4:51:00 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: carriage_hill

Yep.
Put a $1,000 bounty on their heads.


12 posted on 08/20/2018 4:53:05 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (They all get down, and arm up. Ready to take down tyrrany. The magnificient Seven.)
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I like that!


13 posted on 08/20/2018 5:08:44 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Life is simpler when you plow around the stump.)
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To: carriage_hill

When the gang guts, stabs and beheads a man in a public park, that is the definition of organized. They need deorganized.


14 posted on 08/20/2018 5:17:13 AM PDT by healy61
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It is here with the knowledge and assistance of the democrats. It will expand with the help of the democrats, particularly nancy pelosi who thinks they’re nice people.


15 posted on 08/20/2018 5:20:31 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media deliberately and intentionally chooses to lie, with full awareness and knowledge.)
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News flash! Nancy and Chuckie have set up a Go Fund Me account for MS13 and are enlisting fellow democrats to encourage the savage rape and murder against Trump Administration employees and anyone wearing a MAGA hat.


16 posted on 08/20/2018 5:21:46 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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Fake and gay.

MS-13 is very organized has been from day one. First members were ex-mil special forces


17 posted on 08/20/2018 5:22:14 AM PDT by stockpirate (TYRANNY IS THY NAME REBELLION IS OUR ANSWER. HANG THEM ALL!)
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Yep. Country folks from the South will hunt for free. 😁
18 posted on 08/20/2018 5:23:59 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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They could always merge with antifa and/or black panthers.


19 posted on 08/20/2018 5:28:17 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (If your church believes in evolution it is not a Christian church.)
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From what I have seen as a teacher, gangs recruit the laziest and the dumbest kids, so... I don’t know if organization is going to be a reliable item in their skill set.


20 posted on 08/20/2018 5:45:58 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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