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Anatomy of a Sting: Robert Mueller Likely Used FBI and Foreign Intel to Set-Up George Papadopoulos
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Posted on 08/21/2018 6:06:47 AM PDT by Bigtigermike

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To: cuban leaf

“I don’t believe in coincidences.

If someone gives you ten grand in a foreign country, which is the dollar limit for this thing, and then when you enter the US you are arrested, that sounds like a setup. Why was he arrested?”


I also don’t believe in coincidences, esp. with law enforcement.

However, this guy was smart enough not to take it with him. As an alternative, he could have easily spent a few hundred on a nice gift for his wife, bring the total to well under $10,000. As a 2nd alternative, if he DID report the $10K that he was transporting, then it isn’t a crime to enter (or leave, that works both ways) the country. Failure to report is the crime, not having the money.

FWIW, I hope that he reported this (or reports it, as the case may be) on his tax return - no need to get 300 years in prison like Manafort for tax evasion.

As to why he was arrested...they knew that they would pin SOMETHING on him, even if not the transportation of the $10K.


41 posted on 08/21/2018 9:13:10 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Bigtigermike
> "The Daily Caller has learned that a man named Charles Tawil gave Papadopoulos $10,000 during a meeting in an Israeli hotel room in July 2017."

No, the Daily Caller didn't 'learn' anything. They read the released memo from 3 days ago just as anyone else could:

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4776071/a106dd6d-64e2-43c0-9da1-a90a48ed8daa.pdf

CTH should just drop Daily Caller BS and simply link to the above memo.

And CTH plays up the 10k BS and idiots on this thread lap it up.

I generally like CTH's products but they have their 2nd string at-bat on this BS.

Look at the last paragraph of Mueller's memo linked above just before the one-sentence conclusion. Here's what Mueller and his pack of dumbasses write in that paragraph:

Based on the defendant’s offense level under the Guidelines, the applicable range for a fine is $500 to $9,500. The defendant provided information about $10,000 in cash he received from a foreign national whom he believed was likely an intelligence officer of a foreign country (other than Russia). The defendant has stated that he kept that money in a safe pending his sentencing in this case and Counsel for the defendant has consented to the imposition of this fine amount.

Forfeiture is not applicable in this case.

In other words, the 10k has ZERO to do with anything as it was BEFORE Papadopoulos worked for the Trump Campaign. The ONLY REASON it is even mentioned in the memo is because it shows he has the money to pay the maximum bogus fine they can throw at him.

The entire 10k issue is a non-issue. Papadopoulos was not outsmarting them, was not being setup by Mueller for the 10k. He simply told the truth to these effing bastards and they leaked it to the press that he was 'money laundering', he was in cahoots with 'foreign agents' who were actually Israeli businessmen. George told them it was 'possible' these Israelis were intel operatives, possible, why did he say this? Because he was trying to show loyalty to his country as they badgered him what contacts, foreign dealings, Russkie contacts, and other assorted bullsh*t questions. So he told them about the Israelis he met BEFORE he was with the Trump Campaign. He told them he met these Israelis, one of whom gave him 10k as part of a business deal BEFORE any connection with the Trump Campaign. They couldn't hang him for it but they leaked it to the press to make George look like a bad guy and to start rumors many of which are propagating on this thread by people that should know better.

42 posted on 08/21/2018 10:50:24 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V (Proud Member of the Deranged Q Fringe))
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To: surrey

If Mueller set up the sting, then, why is he involved in the investigation?


43 posted on 08/21/2018 11:09:29 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (60 in '18.)
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To: Hostage
Yes, the information about the 10K was in the sentencing report that Mueller's team filed.

Maybe Mueller's team did "leaked it to the press to make George look like a bad guy and to start rumors many of which are propagating"

But they aren't propagating very far. The MSM didn't pick up on them, only the couple of anti-Mueller sites (Daily Caller and CTH), all the MSM are reporting that he's trying to get no jail time and considering withdrawing his guilty plea.

CTH says: "Papadopoulos was arrested at Dulles International Airport on a return trip from overseas on July 27, 2017"

Why? What for? Well the indictment says he was arrested for false statements that were made six months earlier in his interview in January.

The defendant, GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS, who served as a foreign policy advisor for the presidential campaign of Donald J. Trump (the "Campaign"), made material false statements and material omissions during an interview with the Federal Bureau of Investigation ("FBI'.) that took place on January 27, 2017.

It's odd. So CTH's theory is that they were planning on arresting him for the money, but he didn't have it, so instead the decided to arrest him for the false statements.

CTH also asserts that they questioned him for many hours at this point. The plane arrived at 7:00 PM, he was booked at 1:45AM, almost 7 hours later.

Maybe there is not connection, the FBI had decided to arrest him for his false statements and were just waiting for him to return to the USA to do the arrest. That's certainly plausible.

But, given what CTH is reporting (the guy who gave him the money was a long time CIA asset), his theory is also plausible.

I think you are going a little hard on CTH.


44 posted on 08/21/2018 12:06:43 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: depressed in 06
If Mueller set up the sting, then, why is he involved in the investigation?

Well they are not admitting that any of it was a sting. Their original claim, which they stand by, was that an "Australian diplomat" told someone (Strzok, presumably, when he flew over the day after launching "Crossfire Hurricane") and so they, as good FBI agents, had no alternative but to investigate it.

This was actually the second theory of the "start of the Trump investigation" after the first one got blown out of the water by lots of information showing it started much earlier.

But these timelines have never been drawn up by the Mueller team or the FBI or the DOJ - it's all been done through leaks, mostly to the NY Times.

It's it's proved conclusively that the spys (er, "confidential informants") were sent by the FBI under Mueller's direction then they will probably just make up some other story explaining that they have REALLY been investigating Trump/Russia since 2015, or 2014...and assert that it's all completely legit. Who you gonna believe, me or your lyin' eyes?

45 posted on 08/21/2018 12:12:20 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Hostage
The Daily Caller is quite clear that G-Pap got the money in July of 2017 - long after his work on the Trump campaign was over, and long after his interview (Jan 2017) with the FBI that he supposedly lied in.

The Daily Caller News Foundation has learned that a man named Charles Tawil gave Papadopoulos $10,000 during a meeting in an Israeli hotel room in July 2017.
And you say:
In other words, the 10k has ZERO to do with anything as it was BEFORE Papadopoulos worked for the Trump Campaign.

The Dates G-Pop worked for trump are March 2016 until the inauguration. He was not ever given a job in the Trump White House.

Where are you getting your information that G-Pap got the money much earlier, in fact before March 2016? If you are right that is a major screw up in the Daily Caller story.

46 posted on 08/21/2018 12:23:41 PM PDT by Jack Black
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> “It’s odd. So CTH’s theory is that they were planning on arresting him for the money, but he didn’t have it, so instead the decided to arrest him for the false statements.”

CTH’s theory is off. I like CTH but they wove the 10k into this when in reality it is far removed.

The 10k handoff and the admission of the 10k by George were much earlier in the year than the arrest at the airport in July 2017. Mueller’s minions had been grilling Papadopoulos before the arrest and his ‘cooperative’ testimony covered events both before and after he joined the Trump Campaign. They continued to grill him and then used his emails and call logs to trip him up on dates.

Papadopoulos is a young, then a gullible (not now) up and coming careerist in politics. He had no clue how dirty the game is played, now he knows. So he tried to impress them that he was honest, forthright, candid, and ‘on the USA team’. He did not realize they were looking to do him in as they went after Trump. He was steamrolled, left as road kill.

If Mueller or any of his dogs comes near me, friends are going to have to hold me back to stop from pummeling them into the pavement.


47 posted on 08/21/2018 2:42:30 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V (Proud Member of the Deranged Q Fringe))
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At this point all I see is Mueller and his team, all they are doing is ruining lives. I just want to see some serious pushback on them, actually more than serious, more like jail time or at least disbarment.


48 posted on 08/21/2018 3:53:32 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V (Proud Member of the Deranged Q Fringe))
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Assuming all that was written about Papa and the cash, I have a question.

Since he gave the money to an “attorney” in Greece, presumably to hold (nobody has said what happened to the money that I have read), does his contact with this lawyer constitute “attorney-client privilege” under Greek law?

Is US law irrelevant if not Greek laws were broken?
Where is the money?

Can Tawil be found, subpoenaed and desposed?

This stinks worse than an open cesspool on a hot summer day.


49 posted on 08/21/2018 10:03:30 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
This stinks worse than an open cesspool on a hot summer day.

Yup, Mrueller is a lying, back-stabbing, traitorous, piece of work all for the purpose of trying to indict and remove a sitting president since his good buds James Comey and himself voted for the "Criminal Miss Hillary".

Jeff Sessions needs to be fired and run out of D.C. and Mueller will not be able to indict President Trump in the end.

The Justice Department works for the Executive Branch and not what the "Fake News MSM" is saying that the Justice Department is separate from the executive branch of government.

50 posted on 08/22/2018 9:10:18 AM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (God Bless Texas...)
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To: Hostage
This happened before George was onboard the Trump Campaign

The article talks about it being in JUly 2017. Perhaps it is an entirely different incident than the one you are thinking of.

51 posted on 08/22/2018 9:16:17 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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