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Accused Jacksonville gunman once hospitalized for mental illness, records show
wptv.com ^ | 8/27/18 | MICHAEL BIESECKER and DAVID McFADDEN/AP

Posted on 08/28/2018 10:30:23 AM PDT by ColdOne

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To: Chewbarkah
How does someone “hospitalized for mental illness” legally purchase handguns? Why wouldn’t background checks catch this and disqualify him?

Because mental health hospitalizations are covered under medical privacy laws. The background check system is flagged only if mental illness was adjudicated in court. This is becoming a growing concern.

21 posted on 08/28/2018 11:02:08 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Anti-Bubba182

“How does he qualify?”

Juvee records remain “silent/private’ cuz they’re juvee ?


22 posted on 08/28/2018 11:02:42 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory toooo long.............)
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To: ColdOne

I’m surprised that the FBI didn’t know about him. They seem to know about all the other shooters and do nothing.


23 posted on 08/28/2018 11:03:35 AM PDT by mistfree (It's a very uncreative man who can't think of more than one way to spell a word.)
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To: ColdOne
The records show Katz's parents disagreed on how to care for their troubled son, with his father claiming his estranged wife was exaggerating symptoms of mental illness as part of their long and bitter custody battle. The couple divorced in 2007.

Single Parent Family, child with mental illness - wasn't that the Newtown CT. kid as well? Seems like we have this pattern over and over.

24 posted on 08/28/2018 11:05:25 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Chewbarkah
How does someone “hospitalized for mental illness” legally purchase handguns?

Technically, he can't, but that would require telling the truth on that form 4473 when you purchase the firearm. Lying on that is a felony, by the way.

This is an old issue that has never been satisfactorily resolved. It came up in the Elliot Rodger killings in San Bernardino in 2014 - here was a young man who had been medicated for mental problems since age 8 whose known issues and treatments were never communicated to the NICS because of the California Medical Associations (perfectly justified, IMHO) concerns about patient confidentiality. So all these young men had to do was lie.

It's an open question - how far can you go in giving this sort of information to the federal government without crossing the privacy line? Can you give them a list of medical marijuana prescriptions, none of whose recipients are technically allowed to purchase a firearm? What about Ritalin? If the answer is Yes, you open a Pandora's box of patient-doctor confidentiality issues, if it's No you have to explain to the world why that crazy person just purchased the guns that he used in a murder. If there's middle ground, wouldn't it be nice to have lawmakers make a legitimate effort to find it instead of posturing for the cameras?

25 posted on 08/28/2018 11:07:30 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Adolescents and pre-adolescents who experience bitter divorces of parents have a substantially higher risk of mental health problems. I’m sure the government spent large sums of taxpayer dollars for several studies that have come up with those shocking results.


26 posted on 08/28/2018 11:09:38 AM PDT by henkster (Monsters from the Id.)
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To: ColdOne

If he was ever committed involuntarily, he could NOT buy guns legally!


27 posted on 08/28/2018 11:11:40 AM PDT by Spok
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Sounds like he had a nutjob Mama. The divorce was extra fuel for the fire. Similar scenario to that Adam Lanza freakoid.


28 posted on 08/28/2018 11:19:40 AM PDT by tflabo (Varmints)
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If he was ever committed involuntarily, he could NOT buy guns legally!

Nor could he legally shoot all the people in the Gamer Bar.

29 posted on 08/28/2018 11:23:12 AM PDT by henkster (Monsters from the Id.)
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Lying on that is a felony, by the way.

And why should that matter to someone who is making the purchase in order to commit more felonies?

30 posted on 08/28/2018 12:04:31 PM PDT by lightman (Obama's legacy in 13 letters: BLM, ISIS, & ANTIFA. New axis of evil.)
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To: ColdOne

So typical and no surprise.


31 posted on 08/28/2018 12:30:21 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: V_TWIN

The meds just turn people into zombies. They don’t really work in the sense of actually moving towards curing the condition.


32 posted on 08/28/2018 12:52:52 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 1)
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To: ColdOne

If he came negative on an NCIC check, then you cannot the shop owner for making the sale. As far as I know, people who have mental health issues, that have been hospitalized do not come up in the system. A major flaw obviously.


33 posted on 08/28/2018 1:29:01 PM PDT by MGunny
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