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Trump is right about the exaggerated Puerto Rico hurricane death count
American Thinker ^ | 09/14/2018 | Jack Hellner

Posted on 09/14/2018 7:43:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Washington Post columnist Jennifer Rubin says that President Trump is crazy because he says the vast number of deaths in Puerto Rico during Hurricane Maria last year was supposedly made up.

Here's how she starts:

What we learn when Trump says crazy stuff

On Thursday morning, President Trump showed once again that he lacks even a tangential relationship with reality:

What is actually crazy is when an independent research firm used computer models to determine the number of deaths from the hurricane, instead of the actual body count from the coroner's. So does Rubin and the other WaPo Democrat stenographers ever have any actual questions about those computer models? They don’t seem to, because they just repeat whatever they are told, no questions asked. Here's the news they wrote:

Death toll in Puerto Rico from Hurricane Maria officially raised to 2,975 from 64

Using a study from a team of independent researchers, officials in Puerto Rico said they're raising the official death toll from Hurricane Maria to 2,975 from 64.

Researchers have determined that an estimated 2,975 people died from September 2017 through the end of February 2018. The independent study, from George Washington University's (GWU) Milken School of Public Health, was commissioned by the Puerto Rican government.

The estimate of 2,975 was determined using a mathematical model based on historical patterns, with adjustments made for age and sex, researchers said. That sum is more than 4,500 percent higher than the original estimate of 64.

It's nonsense. You don't determine body counts by math models. Yet people at the WaPo are so crazy they even say Trump is complicit in causing Hurricane Florence. They need their head examined.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deathtoll; hurricane; puertorico
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1 posted on 09/14/2018 7:43:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Jebbifer is really ticked off that we broke out of the amnesty candidate only cage that the Uniparty has US in.


2 posted on 09/14/2018 7:44:27 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: SeekAndFind

LOLOLOL! As if that matters. Wait until the letter finesteen sent to the fbi comes out detailing how Trump and Kavanugh trapped some young lady in a room back when they were 17. Doesn’t matter that Trump is considerably older that Kavanugh and never knew him when he was 17. Yes, they are that friggin’ nutz.


3 posted on 09/14/2018 7:51:10 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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On February 22, Puerto Rico governor Ricardo Rosselló announced that researchers at the Milken Institute School of Public Health at George Washington University would be producing a report about the island’s post-Hurricane María death count. According to the government of Puerto Rico, the official death count was 64, but data and reporting by Puerto Rico’s Center for Investigative Journalism (CPI) —in collaboration with Latino USA and Latino Rebels— showed that an excess of 1,000 deaths occurred in September and October of 2017, when compared to the same time period in 2016.
4 posted on 09/14/2018 7:56:09 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: SeekAndFind

I remember decades ago when Puerto Rico was called the poorhouse of the Caribbean. Compared to Haiti that’s saying a lot. Some things never change.


5 posted on 09/14/2018 7:56:44 AM PDT by Impala64ssa
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To: Lurkinanloomin

I will be heckled here, but I actually agree with the methodology. When you see mortality rates spike after the hurricane, above normal levels, that spike is due to the hurricane. One can debate the actual number and I am not wading into those details.

The lack of power and water is not the federal government’s fault. The infrastructure there sucked/sucks. The PR’s I know here all say so which is why they left a long time ago. I new some PR’s who were sending bottled water.... I told them to send iodine tablets which can purify water.....at about a 10th of the price of shipping a six pack of water.


6 posted on 09/14/2018 7:58:06 AM PDT by PSUGOP
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To: SeekAndFind

If you really wanted to settle this....go to Congress and demand a memorial for those who died in the hurricane, and that EACH of their names would be carved into stone. So, then....you need a list of the names. All of this business would hush up real quick as they up to around 50 names and were unable to really come up with the ‘other’ names.


7 posted on 09/14/2018 7:58:21 AM PDT by pepsionice
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The PR death count is a SOCIALIST HOAX and thank god Trump is calling it all out.

Buckle up Snowflakes, we're in a street fight

8 posted on 09/14/2018 8:01:44 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston
SocialistWorker.org
9 posted on 09/14/2018 8:03:23 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: SeekAndFind
Washington Post columnist Jennifer Rubin says

That's really all you need to know. Whatever follows is spectacularly wrong.

10 posted on 09/14/2018 8:04:33 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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I will be heckled here, but I actually agree with the methodology.

I'm not heckling, but I disagree that it is valid to change the methodology used to calculate death tolls after the fact in order to make a political point. Their approach may be sound, but the use in place of the accepted methodology is political - and therefore invalidates the application of the technical approach.

The only way I would accept this methodology is if they applied the same approach to every major storm of the last 15 or 20 years to supply context.

Finally, the death total in PR needs to be adjusted by the complete neglect of disaster relief by the PR government. Even now, millions of bottles of water sit in the sun on the tarmac at an airport, relief supplies delivered to the PR government have been discovered rotting in a government parking lot, etc. Deaths from the storm and deaths from malignant government neglect are two different things.

11 posted on 09/14/2018 8:08:02 AM PDT by MortMan (The white board is a remarkable invention.)
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Puerto Rican Dem crooks financed a phony GWU study to shake down more
Fema cut its funds so this was another Dem media lie to keep feeding the corruption in PR . US tax payer Fema dollars .
Its a another DEM party Federal funding scam for cesspool Dem in PR .
12 posted on 09/14/2018 8:09:27 AM PDT by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalists out themselves ever)
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To: SeekAndFind

Coordinated FAKE NEWS on cue. It is fodder for the stupids and media whores who spread it.


13 posted on 09/14/2018 8:09:41 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: PSUGOP
I will be heckled here, but I actually agree with the methodology. When you see mortality rates spike after the hurricane, above normal levels, that spike is due to the hurricane. One can debate the actual number and I am not wading into those details.

Why wasn't that model applied to previous hurricanes? They moved the goalposts to smear the president.

14 posted on 09/14/2018 8:09:56 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: PSUGOP
I will be heckled here, but I actually agree with the methodology. When you see mortality rates spike after the hurricane, above normal levels, that spike is due to the hurricane. One can debate the actual number and I am not wading into those details.

Why wasn't that model applied to previous hurricanes? They moved the goalposts to smear the president.

15 posted on 09/14/2018 8:10:20 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: PSUGOP

I’m not heckling, but I disagree. They’re trying to pin every death on Trump. How many people died from post-hurricane crime, maybe criminals shooting a homeowner, maybe a homeowner or a cop shooting a looter. That’s a local crime matter. How many died because because local authorities couldn’t check houses as quickly and as methodically as we saw in Texas after Hurricane Harvey. (We saw nursing homes abandoned during one of those floods in the USA last year.) That’s not on Trump either. Etc. They don’t know, and they didn’t care to find out.


16 posted on 09/14/2018 8:10:46 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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I won’t heckle you, but I’ll ask a question. If someone is murdered two months after a hurricane because conditions in the aftermath are such to facilitate more crime (no nighttime lighting, etc.) is that really hurricane related? If a drunk hits a damaged section of pavement where it was washed out a few weeks before, and careens over a cliff, is that really hurricane related? Even if those conditions could have been corrected long before if the government wasn’t so inefficient?
17 posted on 09/14/2018 8:11:16 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SeekAndFind

This politicized estimate based on an academic study reminds me of the supposed redlining of districts by banks based on a single study. That conclusion led to all sorts of foolish restrictions on lending practices to give financially unqualified people loans because they were minorities and the banks must have been prejudiced. Anybody remember that?


18 posted on 09/14/2018 8:14:58 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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To: SeekAndFind

This morning, EVERY local official and worker in the impacted zone is working 100% with federal help. Has any place but PR EVER constantly expressed hostility instead of cooperation with those who want to help them?


19 posted on 09/14/2018 8:15:21 AM PDT by grania
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Trump should raise the death toll from 9/11 by estimating all the deaths in lower Manhattan since then, roll it up in a big ball, and blame radical Islam.


20 posted on 09/14/2018 8:29:08 AM PDT by JonPreston
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