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New Details Raise Serious Doubts Over The Credibility Of The Ford Polygraph
JONATHAN TURLEY Res ipsa loquitur – The thing itself speaks ^ | September 27, 2018 | Jonathan Turley

Posted on 09/27/2018 8:40:39 AM PDT by magellan

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To: magellan
Sept. 24

Committee staff have first interview with a man who believes he, not Judge Kavanaugh, had the encounter with Dr. Ford in 1982 that is the basis of his complaint.

Sept. 25

Committee staff have a second interview with a man who believes he, not Judge Kavanaugh, had the encounter with Dr. Ford in the summer of 1982 that is the basis of her allegation. He described his recollection of their interaction in some detail.

21 posted on 09/27/2018 9:39:56 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: magellan

about the trauma...she added a lot today that relates with real victims but it was playacted... she said she struggled when she went to college at 17...that was 2 years later...how were her grades in the Fall after that summer she was 15...

All she did was answer the questions and comments from the various articles etc

she used what people have said to make a case against Kavanaugh


22 posted on 09/27/2018 9:40:53 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: magellan

Dr. Ford testifies that the polygraph was administered in a hotel room in Delaware, immediately after attending her grandmother’s funeral. The reason it was in Delaware, not California, was because she was waiting for a flight from Delaware to New Hampshire.

Turns out that in her testimony, she’s quite the frequent flyer.


23 posted on 09/27/2018 9:44:15 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Kavanaugh previously stated he was a virgin in high school. I BELIEVE HIM. Even if it was Kavanaugh who "assaulted" her, SHE WAS NOT RAPED given Kavanaugh is truthful and I BELIEVE HIM. So, WHAT HAPPENED? I think Ford is SQUEEZING BLOOD FROM A TURNIP!!!
24 posted on 09/27/2018 9:52:41 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: magellan

I thought that polygraphs were inadmissable as evidence. Has that changed?


25 posted on 09/27/2018 9:53:02 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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Frequent flyer from east coast to west coast and to the islands as well as Hawaii. Another convenient lie about being afraid to fly to delay delay delay.

I wonder what kind of medication she is on and has been on for some time.


26 posted on 09/27/2018 9:54:24 AM PDT by DOC44
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To: DOC44

Yep. I know almost nothing about polygraphs. But I do recall one summer watching the Phil Donohue show, and I think he did a series of episodes on polygraphs. It went into great detail on how they are done. Then Phil submitted to a polygraph test by a highly trained tester, and completely crushed the test and made the tester look like an utter fool.

The guests they had on the show had no clue Donohue had done all of this lead up as set up to show how unreliable polygraphs are.

But it was from that show, which showed multiple excerpts from actual polygraph tests, which I remember. I remember the control questions, the step by step questions, the return to the earlier subject questions, etc.

I also remember exactly how Donohue beat the test. He put a nail in his shoe, and by pressing his toe on the nail, he was able to spike his physiological response during the control questions to skew the baseline. He learned it from a criminal he interviewed in jail while preparing the story.


27 posted on 09/27/2018 9:55:05 AM PDT by magellan
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She admits she doesn’t know who pushed her into the room because they were behind her. Yet she’s certain it was Kavanaugh who did the rest

Yeah, I've already been down that road. She doesn't know when the party occurred; she doesn't know where the party occurred; she doesn't know whose house the party occurred --- but, she is absolutely sure it was Brett Kavanaugh who did (something).

I also am a bit confused as to why the allegations of what he did keep changing.

In the beginning, it was like he kissed her too forcefully or something; then it was he pushed her onto a bed; then it was, he tried to undress her, then it was rape; and, today I read that she says she thought she might die.

It has gone from assault, to rape, to attempted murder in a very short span of time.

I think this woman is a nut-job; which is probably why she went into the field of psychiatry in the first place.

28 posted on 09/27/2018 9:58:14 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: G Larry

Will this be brought up at the hearing today?


29 posted on 09/27/2018 10:00:00 AM PDT by funfan
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To: LibertarianLiz

“I thought that polygraphs were inadmissable as evidence. Has that changed?”

It not admissible as evidence. But this Kangaroo court is not about evidence... there is none. It is about politics and a show before the elections and to control Trump’s power to place another justice on the supreme court.

Like so many of the accusers of the me too movement it reminds me of Shakespear:

“Life is a poor player that frets and struts his life upon the stage and is heard no more.”


30 posted on 09/27/2018 10:01:16 AM PDT by DOC44
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“I think this woman is a nut-job; which is probably why she went into the field of psychiatry in the first place.”
She is a professor at some university. Many students drop her class and post comments about her at the school. Hateful, crazy, mean ass bitch. Just some of the words they used to describe her. Not timid, weepy, mouse like, which is how she is ACTING in this senate drama BS.


31 posted on 09/27/2018 10:08:37 AM PDT by 9422WMR
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To: magellan

Why does Turley find this “odd”? I’m not an expert like him but I knew this test was BS the moment I read about it. I find it ordinary, proper, and fitting to the goal it is trying to accomplish.

I’m tired of all the conservatives who find things done and said by Progs to be: “odd, mistaken, ill advised, uninformed, impractical”, and etc.. because most of it is intentional and purposeful and said and done to accomplish their mission which is Progressive Totalitarian Rule.


32 posted on 09/27/2018 10:17:58 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: magellan
Photo of test used.


33 posted on 09/27/2018 10:24:07 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: FreedomNotSafety
I’m tired of all the conservatives who find things done and said by Progs to be: “odd, mistaken, ill advised, uninformed, impractical”, and etc.. because most of it is intentional and purposeful and said and done to accomplish their mission which is Progressive Totalitarian Rule.

Not a fan of understatement?

The guy has a responsible TV gig, he can't sound like some anonymous Internet guy.

People get the message his way. Go overboard and they turn you off.

34 posted on 09/27/2018 10:28:59 AM PDT by x
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Ford is trying to tell us the polygraph was long time & was very stressful!!!

2 Questions?

Long Time?

I mus have a very seriously flawed dictionary !!!


35 posted on 09/27/2018 10:35:17 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: funfan

Hopefully.


36 posted on 09/27/2018 10:39:31 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: magellan

She testified a few minutes ago in a manner which suggest she knows little about the polygraph machine and process. The woman has a doctorate in psychology. The polygraph is a psychological tool. She know all about it and how to defeat it. And that, my friends, is a fact.


37 posted on 09/27/2018 10:41:47 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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He wasn’t being understated. He was being a weasel. The polygraph was crafted to support an allegation. Who is tuning Turley off if he expains the true nature of this test?


38 posted on 09/27/2018 10:47:45 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: FreedomNotSafety
That is better. Turley might have gotten away with putting it that way. But talking about "Progressive Totalitarian Rule" when you're asked about a lie-detector test probably will eventually cost you your job.

I don't have a problem with talking heads being cautious and understated. They have more at stake than we do. Even if Blasey Ford can't sue, people who are on television have to be careful about the claims they make.

They make a habit out of being cautious, because if they develop a habit of leaping to conclusions, eventually they'll get it wrong, sometimes disastrously wrong.

39 posted on 09/27/2018 10:53:56 AM PDT by x
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When Turley said “odd” instead of “contrived”’or “”sham” he was either genuinely ignorant as to the goal of this polygraph or he was pandering to the liberal crowd.

There was nothing to get wrong and he would not have been leaping t P.O. conclusions. . Turley was tool for P.T.R. and this polygraph was not “odd” though the Progs will be grateful to him for framing it that way.


40 posted on 09/27/2018 11:11:31 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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